Confessions from a Hillary Shill - REMOVED from the SandersForPresident sub reddit

[Cali_Democrat]

Just to set the record straight....

The post was removed by us on /r/SandersForPresident because the OP failed to provide any proof of his employment with the Clinton campaign.

We didn't remove it for any other reason other than that. If he provides substantial proof that he is who he says he is, and that the campaign is implementing the strategy that he says they are, then we'd likely allow the content. But until then, it's no different than saying something like, "I met Obama at a bar once and he spit on my baby!"

Anyways. That's all. I've seen people suggest that we, the mods, are Hillary shills. This is false. We've been campaigning for Bernie since before Bernie even had a campaign. I wish I got paid for this work, though...

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3rncq9/confession_of_hillary_shill_from/cwqqfhu

So the most rec'd post on DU's front page at the moment is an unsubstantiated conspiracy.

How embarrassing for DU.

[mcar]

1. Hmmm

Has the thread here been deleted?

[Control-Z]

6. From DU?

Helz no. As I type this it is at the top of the greatest page with 162 recs!

[mcar]

8. Course it is

[JaneyVee]

2. Was its removal due to a Facebook poll of users?

[RiverLover]

3. But someone reposted it here~

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3rncq9/confession_of_hillary_shill_from/

The comments are priceless.

[riversedge]

4. I actually never opened it. Just had a gut feeling it was no good.

Thanks for the post.

[Control-Z]

5. Big Fat K&R!!

I wonder how long it will take for the truth to overcome the recommendations of the unsubstantiated conspiracy on the greatest page? DUers are honest people who like the truth to be known so it should happen pretty quickly. Don't you think?

Thank you for posting this, Cali_Democrat!!

[Capt. Obvious]

7. I saw the thread earlier

but went back and recommended it for you.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Lots of good DUERS were slimed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251775947

[Cali_Democrat]

16. The other thread is up to 188 recs now.

I don't understand. The hosts of the Sanders forum on reddit have even distanced themselves from it.

Why are people here still trying to run with the conspiracy?

This is so embarassing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Why won't anybody take my challenge?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251775947

[bravenak]

10. So damn embarassing.

[irisblue]

12. alert results

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Divisive mass attack.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:30 PM, and the Jury voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: broadbrush and over the top HIDE
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: The comparison of Sanders supporters to Teabaggers is a pretty nasty one. Attacking one group in a broad brush with no proof is very divisive.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[davidpdx]

14. I find it interesting as always that only 2 out of the 7 jurors bothered to state why they voted

the way they did. It would be nice if more people who served on a jury stated the reason.

[Capt. Obvious]

15. Alert stalking has gotten out of control

[Codeine]

25. Bullshit hide. That's just silly. nt

[MisterP]

13. right, so now we can argue on the candidates' positions, records, connections, and ideologies again!

[eridani]

17. Until they verify authorship, that's perfectly appropriate. But you might want to ask yourself why-

--the article seemed plausible at all. It's because Clinton is known to have paid for Facebook friends and Twitter followers, in the State Department as well as in her campaign. And those dedicated sites where HRC supporters strategize on how to attack Sanders supporters on DU. If none of that stuff had ever happened, the OP with all the recs would just look silly.

[Cali_Democrat]

18. The article didn't seem plausible at all to me.

As soon as I read it, I smelled bullshit.

[eridani]

19. That's what people said about COINTELPRO

Sure, some of the stuff sounded way over the top, but the 1% have actually done much worse in the past

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

COINTELPRO (an acronym for COunter INTELligence PROgram) was a series of covert, and at times illegal,[1][2] projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.[3]

FBI records show that COINTELPRO resources targeted groups and individuals that the FBI deemed "subversive",[4] including anti-Vietnam War organizers, members of black civil rights and nationalist liberation organizations (e.g. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Black Panther Party), feminist organizations, anti-colonial movements (such as Puerto Rican independence groups), and a variety of organizations that were part of the broader "New Left".

FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover issued directives governing COINTELPRO, ordering FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, neutralize or otherwise eliminate" the activities of these movements and their leaders.[5][6] Under Hoover, the agent in charge of COINTELPRO was William C. Sullivan.[7] Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy personally authorized some of these programs.[8] Kennedy would later learn that he also had been a target of FBI surveillance.[citation needed]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Please let me explain something to you.

When a person accuses somebody of something it is incumbent upon the person making the accusation to provide proof of his or her guilt. It is not incumbent on the person being accused to prove his or her innocence. That's how we roll in America.


Oh, please see if anybody wants to take my challenge:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251775947

Thank you in advance.

[eridani]

35. For now, I'm trusting that the Redditors will find out what is really going on n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. It was taken down

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3rncq9/confession_of_hillary_shill_from/cwqqfhu

[eridani]

37. Yes--but that probably is not the end of the story

One or more online sleuths is probably on it right now.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Will someone please take my challenge?

I desperately want a reason to contribute more to our site:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251775947


Thank you in advance.

[cwydro]

23. Crickets.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. They must not be interested in contributions that go to the betterment of our site.

[cwydro]

32. I just posted your challenge to another claiming the presence of "paid shills" on DU.

Let me know if you hear from them...

[NurseJackie]

26. Maybe it was a Sanders Shill posing a Clinton Shill.

Or even more sneaky, a Clinton Shill posing as a Sanders Shill posing as a Clinton Shill.

Yes, THAT seems to be the most reasonable explanation (because an extra two levels of "posing as" would just be TOO confusing). If the answer it too simple, then it's not believable. If it's too complex, then it sounds like some nutty conspiracy theory. So, let's just go with the double-reverse. It's relatively easy to comprehend, and it doesn't cross the threshold into loony fringe. Everyone's happy!

[Andy823]

27. K&R nt

[Andy823]

28. 219 recs now. nt

[Persondem]

29. Amazing how many people bought into this BS. ... Actually, maybe not

From what I have seen around here for the last 6 months or so, many people will believe ANYTHING that is anti-Clinton without a thought as to its accuracy.

What is it now ... over 200 DU-ers who have endorsed this lie and still no retraction from the OP writer.

[BlueCheese]

30. The number of people who have signed on to that theory is startling.

There are so many reasons to doubt its veracity, I don't even know where to start.

It really makes me wonder whether to even visit DU anymore. It'd be like being at a party and suddenly someone says they read a story that Obama was born in Kenya, and everyone else immediately agrees. It makes you doubt everything else that's being said.

[Beacool]

31. As I just posted on another thread, I now come here for the laughs.

The anti-Hillary attacks get worse and worse the better she does in the polls. At this point some of the posts are as outrageous and unbelievable as what one may read in any RW site.

[cwydro]

33. I know what you're saying.

As an undecided, I try to look at everything evenly, but it's obvious where the most vicious attacks are coming from.

I do see it on both sides, and it's always the same few, but the Bernie ones seem to have really gone into an unfortunate kind of mode that I wish we wouldn't see here.

[Beacool]

34. I prefer Hillary, but I have no problem with Sanders being in the running.

Although, I have repeatedly said that I think 75 is too old to start a presidency. I have also said that Hillary is pushing the envelope at 69, but that was Reagan's age when he came into office. In addition, I don't believe that this country is ready to elect a self described "Democratic Socialist". Those are the only two comments I have made about Sanders in more than one post.

By comparison, read the anti-Hillary posts. Some are objective and only deal with policy disagreements, those I consider fair. The ones I object to are the ones where RW talking points are repeated and the ones when she's attacked personally (like someone the other day going on about her marriage).

Those kinds of comment do nothing but soil this site and are a disservice to Democrats as a whole.