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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:16 PM Nov 2015

Whom Sanders and Clinton want to represent.

There was a forum tonight hosted by Rachel Maddow.

Bernie Sanders implied that as president he'd represent ordinary people, not billionaires.

Hillary Clinton said she'd represent, "the struggling, the striving, and the successful."

I'm for Sanders because I generally don't think the successful should get presidential help with their agenda. I want a president who will usually push back when Congress is considering a bill which helps the successful.

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Whom Sanders and Clinton want to represent. (Original Post) Eric J in MN Nov 2015 OP
Even the successful are affected by Global Climate Change. By putting that in the forefront, Sanders Hiraeth Nov 2015 #1
Simple, honest, and unarguably true post Blus4u Nov 2015 #6
Everyone deserves to be represented, we should consider ourselves all equal. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #2
we should but be Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #11
I noticed too how she slipped that in, but I almost missed it. was interesting. -nt- 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #3
The successful? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #4
Or an invitation to the rich to donate to her campaign. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #5
Probably both. :) beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #7
most definitely. She is using Fox code to insult liberals. Doctor_J Nov 2015 #10
I hope my next President will represent all people, not just the ordinary ones. leftofcool Nov 2015 #8
Very nice but Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #12
Must be a billionaire if they think Bernie won't represent them. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #15
Why do you assume "succesful" means "wealthy? " okasha Nov 2015 #16
Do you think that a President Sanders Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #14
Seems the wealthy and entitled are well-represented as-is Scootaloo Nov 2015 #18
yeah that sounded like the republicans "what do you have against successful people"? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #9
That question was extremely revealing...She was asked what she would do for African Americans.... bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #13
A good example of what my problem is with the debates and even this forum dreamnightwind Nov 2015 #17
I thought the thing with democratic socialism Mike__M Nov 2015 #19
Translation: I don't want to be President of the red states or the blue states Samantha Nov 2015 #20
EXACTLY..and is she going to accuse Bernie of class warfare next?? tokenlib Nov 2015 #21

Hiraeth

(4,805 posts)
1. Even the successful are affected by Global Climate Change. By putting that in the forefront, Sanders
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:20 PM
Nov 2015

is representing everyone whether he realizes it or not.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. most definitely. She is using Fox code to insult liberals.
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:04 AM
Nov 2015

Her donor list should make it crystal clear who she will represent.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. I hope my next President will represent all people, not just the ordinary ones.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:51 PM
Nov 2015

I am successful and I hope Hillary will represent me too.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
16. Why do you assume "succesful" means "wealthy? "
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:28 AM
Nov 2015

I'm a successful artist. One member of my professional group calls us "working and working class artists."

I'd say that's an accurate description.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
18. Seems the wealthy and entitled are well-represented as-is
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:24 AM
Nov 2015

it's hte rest of us that don't seem to have anyone at our bcks in Washington.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. yeah that sounded like the republicans "what do you have against successful people"?
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:00 AM
Nov 2015

She is campaigning as a moderate republican.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
13. That question was extremely revealing...She was asked what she would do for African Americans....
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:07 AM
Nov 2015

And she ended talking about white middle-aged people...

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
17. A good example of what my problem is with the debates and even this forum
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 12:30 AM
Nov 2015

I believe this is an area of real, profound difference between Bernie and Hillary. This question got to a little of it, but only when finely parsing Hillary's answer, as the OP did. It probably went unnoticed to most people, or they heard Hillary's phrasing and thought "that seems reasonable".

It isn't reasonable. The people funding Hillary's campaign, the Democratic Party establishment, and Hillary herself, are on the wrong side of this, and many other issues. The MSM does nothing to expose this, via their regular coverage (to the contrary) or even in this forum by Maddow, which was admittedly better than most MSM coverage.

We simply have no depth of coverage in the elections, and what depth there is is either produced by researchers/reporters cashing corporate paychecks and broadcasting their message to millions, or it is produced by marginalized internet sources whose message gets only to the already converted.

All of this results in a generally uniformed electorate, ripe for supporting brand a over brand b.

Mike__M

(1,052 posts)
19. I thought the thing with democratic socialism
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 01:30 AM
Nov 2015

is equal benefits paid for by progressive taxation. Like Bernie's tuition plan.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
20. Translation: I don't want to be President of the red states or the blue states
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:32 AM
Nov 2015

I want to be President of the United States.

Read: Third-Way.

Sam

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
21. EXACTLY..and is she going to accuse Bernie of class warfare next??
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 02:39 AM
Nov 2015

Definitely "third way." The "successful" are a bit over represented these days.

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