2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnother big difference between Bernie and Hillary.
Only Bernie has highlighted privacy, digital rights, mass surveillance and net neutrality as important issues.
Question: Do you think that wiretapping of American citizens is necessary for security of America and Americans? reddit user GavinraraFonara
Answer (Bernie): I voted against the USA Patriot Act and voted against reauthorizing the USA Patriot Act. Obviously, terrorism is a serious threat to this country and we must do everything that we can to prevent attacks here and around the world. I believe strongly that we can protect our people without undermining our constitutional rights and I worry very very much about the huge attacks on privacy that we have seen in recent yearsboth from the government and from the private sector. I worry that we are moving toward an Orwellian society and this is something I will oppose as vigorously as I can.
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-privacy-and-digital-rights/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"Hillary Clinton said at a Silicon Valley conference for women leaders Tuesday [back in February] that she supports President Barack Obamas call for the strongest possible rules to safe guard net neutrality.
That includes, Clinton said, reclassifying broadband providers under whats known as Title II of the Communications Act, the most controversial option available to the government. Its the first time the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate has voiced support for the Title II option."
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Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)You forgot the link so let me help you out: http://time.com/3721452/hillary-clinton-net-neutrality/
Not much of an article but it does depict her ambiguous answers to questions :
For the FCC to create net neutrality as the norm, they have to have a hook to hang it on, Clinton said. [Title II] is the only hook theyve got. The FCC will vote Thursday on whether to use Title II to regulate net neutrality rules.
With regards to former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden, Clinton acknowledged that while she cant condone his decision to leak secret documents about the agencys surveillance programs, she said her own position is mixed. She called on the NSA to be more transparent with the publicI think a lot of the reaction about the NSA was that people felt betrayed, she explainedbut added later that some surveillance is necessary. I do want to get the bad guys, she said.
As for the threat of ISIS in the Middle East, Clinton said she supports the Obama administrations efforts against the Islamist militant group. I think the right moves are being made, she said, before underscoring the complexity of the issue. Its a very hard challenge because you cant very well put American or Western troops in to fight this organism. You have to use not only air force but also army soldiers form the region, and particular from Iraq.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)lobodons
(1,290 posts)No matter how swell a guy Bernie is, a Socialist is NOT going to win a General Election. People, the GOP are masters at messaging and they will eviscerate Bernie in a General saying nothing but Socialist, Socialist, Socialist.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Polls show a majority of Americans don't think socialism is a dirty word. Poll after poll show Bernie doing better at getting votes from crossover and independent voters.
Please keep up, the new memes are racism and misogyny.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)for a Socialist, Bernie just has to get 95% of the rest. Should be easy, unless he runs against someone who isn't a socialist.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Fairgo
(1,571 posts)seriously, I want to know.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)You're ignoring the facts. Bernie has REPUBLICAN APPEAL and there are lots of Republicans who support him. Why do you think he polls better in a general than Hillary does, he has the indy vote and has Republican voter support.
In fact, some of those Republican Bernie supporters are now starting to make themselves known here on DU.
Hillary meanwhile has more baggage than Samsonite can produce, decades worth of it, literally. She's the most polarizing person in politics.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)But it's good to see someone picking the ball back up and running with it. You do like your right wing attacks.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)For discussion of an important issue.
Alfie_Norris
(2 posts)It is complete b.s. to say that a socialist can't be elected in America this time. If the Shillary supporters would put all their weight into supporting Bernie, it could be done easily.
Once he wins the primary, it's going to be funny to see if you'll all do exactly that.
It can be done and it's not a longshot either.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)I think you responded to the wrong post but that is okay I've done it myself.
Autumn
(45,096 posts)coyote
(1,561 posts)Damn the issues