A self-declared NON DEMOCRAT and Socialist will not win the nomination.

[RBInMaine]

Sorry. Much as I like him, ain't gonna happen. He isn't even a real member of the party, and his socialist declaration would never work in the general election. That's reality, and those who disagree may have good intentions but just are dismissing political reality. Vermont is not all of America.

[cantbeserious]

1. So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently

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[monmouth4]

3. I believe that is reaching for the straw. Such nonsense..n/t

[cantbeserious]

11. So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently

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[RBInMaine]

35. So says reality. Bernie is a good guy but he'll nevery be president.

[cantbeserious]

36. So Say You - Others See The World Much Differently

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[Dawgs]

2. Yet hes doing better than any Democrat in current GE polling. nt

[JaneyVee]

9. Bernie fans always saying national polls don't mean anything.

And only state polling. How is Bernie doing against GOP in state polling? Florida? Ohio? Nevada? Etc.

[Dawgs]

30. Besides the point.

The OP says the Bernie has no chance. I'm saying that polls for the GE, state or otherwise, show that he can be at least as competitive as any other Democratic candidate.

[HerbChestnut]

4. Still clutching to that one huh?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. Nice try

[Duckhunter935]

6. And it is funny that he is more of a democrat

In his policies than some others that are running. I think he gets higher poll numbers in a general matchup against the republicans than others also.

[mucifer]

7. You are probably right. But, it's the primary and I can vote for the candidate of my choice

Bernie!

[flobee1]

8. And big money Clinton will never get my vote

I guess we better get used to saying president trump......

[JackInGreen]

10. Do ya'll

Get tired of posting this dog shit or is it just TOO tasty for you not to try and get others to eat? Red baiting bullshit.

Book marked so I can watch the mediocrity OP has displayed be flushed.

[LiberalArkie]

12. According to the New Hampshire Democratic Party he is a member of the Democratic Party. Just because

he is not a member of YOUR Democratic party doesn't matter.

[global1]

13. Why? Please Explain Yourself......nt

[Hortensis]

14. RB, the Bernie phenom says to me the opposite COULD HAVE BEEN

true. He won't win the nomination, but IMO for other reasons.

Examination of the electorate this season is showing that people have a new comfort with the word socialism -- except for today's anti-government John Birch types, of course. For decades America's lived with a combination of capitalism and some socialism-based programs and witnessed the same in all other advanced nations. Been there, done that, have the Social Security to prove it!

I'm guessing that if Bernie had run as a slightly-left-of-mainstream Democrat, like Martin O'Malley say, he'd probably be doing about the same right now as Governor O'Malley, if that well. Instead he tapped into a previously hidden desire for big, progressive solutions, and the "democratic socialist" label just isn't a boogie. People know he'd have to compromise and settle for what could be accomplished.

[daleanime]

15. 'Because we won't allow it'.......?

We love you too.


Have a lovely day.

[Dem2]

16. I guess he did pretty good in that forum last night

I thought he did pretty well.

[reddread]

17. is it sdrawkcab yad again?

nutritional value of cheap talk is what?

[NorthCarolina]

18. What personal qualifications do you have to back up this proclamation?

Are you directly connected with the Hillary campaign in some position of leverage and access to insider information? Or, is this simply just some claim pulled from your posterior that you believe to be 100% fact because it fits your agenda?

[hootinholler]

19. Bullshit

If you liked him you wouldn't be posting thread after thread demeaning him.

You are not credible.

[99Forever]

20. Well good, then you at the Hillary Fan Club can stop talking bullshit about him, eh?

Got nothing to worry about, amirite?

[Bluenorthwest]

21. So you are taking it upon yourself to oppose the views of the DNC and the Democratic Party of NH

in order to declare that a man who now says 'I am a Democrat' is not a Democrat. He says he is, the Party says he is on a national basis and on a State level. The evidence says he is, as he founded the largest Democratic caucus in the Congress.
But you don't agree with any of those persons, facts or institutions.

I find it very odd that people who do not agree with DNC, Democratic Party of NH and millions of their fellow Democrats try to present themselves as the 'real Democrats'. Generally Democrats don't argue with other State Parties about who is a Democrat.

Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee and Liz Warren were all full tilt Republicans when Bernie was founding the progressive caucus. Republicans. Reagan/Bush supply side Republicans.

Do you contend that Warren is also not a Democrat? If she is one, how long did it take to kick in after her last vote for a Bush? What are the metrics here?

[NurseJackie]

22. It's more than just that.

He won't win the nomination him because he's comes across as a cranky old coot. Apparently, more primary voters see that as a negative trait and a liability. If he's unable, or unwilling, to moderate his behavior and demeanor so that it doesn't interfere with his actual message, then he'll continue to have a dismal chance at being the nominee. If he can't accomplish the task of convincing enough primary voters that he's "the one," then we can safely conclude that his performance as president, and when dealing with other world leaders, would be similarly ineffective.

Yeah, he's a great guy and all, but he's got an irritating personality and manner. The far left just adores him for that, and I totally get it. Seriously, I do. But smart candidates know that elections and primaries are not won by trying to appeal only to one segment.

As it stands now, Bernie's followers need to prepare themselves for disappointment. The OP is correct that Bernie will not win the nomination.

[Truprogressive85]

23. How many times is this going to be recycled ?

The same naysayers said a black man could never beat Hillary Clinton but he proved them wrong

To me this election cycle means more than just electing a president, its a transformation for the party as a whole. At the #Demforum, something that struck out the most to me was the Maddow pointing out how the DNC has abandoned the south ,and doing so allowing the rise of the hardcore right wing.

- DNC has committed the Second Great Betrayal- the majority of African Americans live in the south. The DNC have turned their back on their most loyal voting bloc. By doing so , harsh voting id laws,punitive living wages, failed drug wars, mass incarceration have taken over these states. Yet its only blacks that Democrats have failed but poor/middle class whites who have been manipulated to think that by voting Republican they gain or have a upper advantage over POC.

I say all that to say this, in my opinion Sen. Sanders being socialist will be the last thing on people's minds when they are going to vote. The people see how the deck is stacked against them and the want someone who will bring change,energy,and who will initiate the revitalization of a Democratic Party.

[valerief]

24. Bernie is an official Democrat. Check your facts. nt

[Sheepshank]

25. I'm with Howard Dean. Bernie is not a Democrat

I was trying very hard to give Bernie the benefit of the doubt for finally announcing that he was now running as a Democrat and that may have meant that had joined to party and was now a Democrat. I was trying to be understanding of a man who doesn't like to evolve that he now walks back his earlier statements, "I am not a Democrat", " ...it would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat" and "I am an Independent".

But Howard Dean hedged. For all of his Bernie support, in a pre-forum interview, Chris Matthew clearly used Bernie's own words "I am running as a Democrat" to plant a seed of doubt. And that is the bottom line, Bernie is running as a Democrat, he never joined the party to be a Democrat. Chris Matthews pressed DWS over and over until she finally and hesitatingly relented and said that Bernie is a Democrat, but Howard refused to capitulate.

I'm with Howard Dean. Bernie may be running as a Democrat. This is old news, we knew he was attempting to run on the Democratic ticket, but Bernie is still refusing to actually be a Democrat and join the party.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. When he was Chair, he did an interview in which he falsely said the DNC platform

had a plank against marriage equality. The interviewer attempted to correct him, he insisted and ranted against equality in the name of this Party. When contacted, Dean thought is was funny. So, either he willfully lied about such an important policy or he was utterly clueless about the platform of the Party of which he was chairman. Either way, I lost respect for him when he refused to make a public correction.
I had a chance to meet and eat with Dean not long back and I said no, because I knew I'd bark at him about that and that he'd pretend not to remember. That's how he is.

If you claim our Platform is that which it is not, are you in any way qualified to say someone else is not a Democrat? He was promoting some other platform as chairman. But he is the wise one?

Give me a break.

[Dawgs]

31. Ah, another voter that picks by labels instead of policy and honesty. n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Omfg it has both fuckin stoopid talking points!

[UglyGreed]

28. He's a soooooooooshitilsst

sounds like the Tea Party

[99Forever]

38. It's Camp Weathervane's Hot Tub!

[bunnies]

29. Thank the Gods you posted this. Its never been said before. nt

[Aerows]

44. Thank you Bunnies

That made me literally laugh out loud!

[moobu2]

32. Obviously.

I hope the people who actually thought Bernie had a chance can recover. Maybe it will help when Bernie endorses Hillary and camp[ains for her.

[PowerToThePeople]

33. Super dumb

Into the dumpster with this one.

[cosmicone]

34. He should run for president of Denmark .. hahahaha n/t

[restorefreedom]

37. he's not a democrat!

he's not he's not he's not!!!

[paul ofnoclique]

39. Mimi Soltysik?

I agree /

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. Will somebody who's "guilty of being moderate"?

[Cha]

41. Whatever he is.. I'm glad he's not winning and I want it to stay that way.

[bobbobbins01]

42. Keep posting it...eventually someone will listen

How many variations of this theme do you have queued up?

[berni_mccoy]

43. So much substance...

*not*.

:rolf: