5 Reasons Black Lives Matter Should Also Protest Hillary Clinton' Events

[DhhD]

5 Reasons Black Lives Matter Should Also Protest Hillary Clinton's Events

Article Nov 21, 2015 about Sanders being interrupted, again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/5-reasons-black-lives-matter-hillary-clinton_b_7969452.html
several snips below:

Bernie Sanders has never engaged in the utilization of racial fears, prejudice and stereotype.

Like Keystone XL and other topics, Hillary Clinton refused to issue a definitive statement during an ongoing controversy in Ferguson.

While the Clinton presidency "did a lot to accelerate mass incarceration" and didn't want to be "soft on crime," Bernie Sanders has clearly stated, "Millions of lives have been destroyed because people are in jail for nonviolent crimes."

While Hillary Clinton believed up until recently that marriage should be "denied to gays and lesbians," Bernie Sanders has a long history supporting gay rights. It should be noted by Black Lives Matter and all gay rights activists that Bernie Sanders voted against Bill Clinton's Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.

Hillary Clinton's past runs contrary to the stated goals of Black Lives Matter. Hillary Clinton was against gay marriage, used a campaign ad accused of having racist undertones, waited a calculating 19 days to address Ferguson, and utilized racial prejudices against Barack Obama.
read the complete article at its link

[wendylaroux]

1. BLM have been at Hillary events

and quickly hushed,and led away.

[Thinkingabout]

4. It was handled bady in NN and again in Seattle, why is it necessary to remind us of these events?

[JonLeibowitz]

5. Letting protesters speak is handling it badly; acting as an authoritarian and removing them isn't.

Got it.

[Thinkingabout]

6. Which one got the largest reception from BLM, Sanders or Hillary, it is easy to see the reaction

to the tactics Sanders had in NN and Seattle was not acceptable. Don't tell us here on DU, he got a second chance and failed again. Hillary met with them, they did not get in because the meeting was already started and no more room. They understood this.

[JonLeibowitz]

11. You can continue to think Sanders "failed again"

by being a little off-put about being interrupted. But it only belies your existing bias of candidates. There was nothing "wrong" about how Sanders handled the Seattle protesters.

My position is that neither candidate acted poorly, just differently.

[Thinkingabout]

13. And have you ever shown bias of the candidates?

[JonLeibowitz]

17. Of course. But you are stating it as a fact that letting protesters speak is "failing". It's opinion

[notadmblnd]

39. My recollection is that Senator Sanders stepped back and let them speak.

He even bowed his head when a moment of silence was called for. It was the attendees at the event (where Sanders was a scheduled speaker) who reacted strongly.

Senator Sanders can't be held responsible for those who reacted like assholes. What was he supposed to do? Be like HRC was with wall street when they were gambling with everyone's money? Go up there and tell them to "cut it out"? Hell lot of good that did, huh?

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. The number of reasons BLM should care about what you think they should do ...

ZERO!

[randys1]

8. Each time they lecture YOU what YOU should care about, they alienate YOU more. Right?

Yet they keep doing it over and over.

so maybe there is some truth to the allegation that cons are signing up here pretending to be Bernie supporters then causing shit, because at this point ANY Bernie supporter who continues to push this meme has to know better.

[1StrongBlackMan]

12. LOL ...

I doubt they could alienate me more, with their telling me, and those I support, what I should care about, or should be doing.

so maybe there is some truth to the allegation that cons are signing up here pretending to be Bernie supporters then causing shit, because at this point ANY Bernie supporter who continues to push this meme has to know better.

Perhaps ... Or, it could just be a matter of some just knowing what is best.

[JustAnotherGen]

38. +1

And I'm sure the BLM millenials really care about op eds on old media outlets.

[Thinkingabout]

3. H A Goodman, yep, we should read his articles and run like hell. I don't understand why this

continues to be posted about, leave it alone, the truth is know, trying to restate over and over only brings back the memory of why he is not liked.

[NurseJackie]

9. I'd never heard of this clown before arriving here. What's his claim to fame?

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. "What is his claim to fame?" ...

Writing stuff that DU:Bernie so desperately wants to read.

[NurseJackie]

16. That explains it.

And he gets PAID for this?

[DhhD]

21. Explain how he is wrong using the truth and Justice.

[NurseJackie]

30. He fails at persuasion. I can see that he's writing to validate

the opinions and notions of a small segment. I'm not impressed, but I can see why others would find him to be a delight.

[1StrongBlackMan]

29. Yes ... Find a desperate market and give it what it wants ...

whether you believe it or not ... and get paid!

It is not a new business model.

[JTFrog]

43. On another forum,

as much as I hate reddit, lol...

A couple weeks ago, I read a thread by a Bernie supporter asking to have H.A. Goodman articles banned because they don't deal in reality and will make Bernie supporters slackers.

"Goodman is a distraction, reading his articles is living in a bubble and refusing to accept that Clinton does have more money, better organized and active supporters - from canvassers to phonebankers and so on - and her endorsement list is longer and more impressive.

If we read nothing but Goodman all damn day, everyone might just assume Sanders' nomination is inevitable and I think it really reinforces slacktivism."

"I could get on board with that. I'm OK with rational fluff, but Goodman..."

"As much as I hate his articles, I like being able to see a ridiculous title and think "H.A. Goodman?" and then click and see a bunch of comments saying how much he sucks."

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/3qlutn/we_should_ban_ha_goodman_articles_from_this/

I think the guy in the last quote also posts here, roflmao.

Just for a little insight on how he is perceived by some Bernie supporters outside of DU.

[NurseJackie]

44. Thanks very much for the interesting post.

"slacktivism"??

I'd never heard that before. It gave me a chuckle.

[DhhD]

22. Thank you for finding the article important enough to read.

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. Okay. ??? n/t

[DhhD]

19. He is a voter just like you and is taking responsibility to look at the record and the truth on all

candidates.

[NurseJackie]

25. It's like reading a parallel-universe version Ann Coulter. (I'm not impressed.)

In their quest for validation, I can certainly understand why Bernie fans would glom onto him.

[riversedge]

26. Sanders supporters love to Re-cycle his vile garbage

[DhhD]

27. Sanders is liked by people who seek real Justice. Justice seekers do not overlook the past and who

brought it to them. Hope you might review the 5 Facts from the article posted in the OP. Thank you.

[misterhighwasted]

7. You forgot to add: bernie marched with MLK

Don't let that meme slip by without caps or something.

Bernie has all but ignored the AA voters in his campaign.
Rather than recognizing the call from AA for recognition, he headed to the very white Liberty U.
That decision spoke volumns to the Black Community when they were looking for a leader to recognize their concerns with life in todays society.

Its a little late in the game to start paying attention to their needs. No matter how many Hillary hit pieces are written to convince them otherwise.
Attacking HRC without acknowledging his own absence in the AA comunity only drives them closer to Her.

They find bernie sanders an insult to the AA community and they are correct.

[DhhD]

15. Thank you. Surly Sanders must be given the same in Justice as Clinton has received. People

in Ferguson remember the past, but it seems like supporters here on DU are not remembering the injustices of the Clinton's. There is a double standard and DU seems to have gotten off the track.

So justice provides accepted flip for Clinton as far as her record is?

Thank you for providing Justice to Sanders in your reply.

It should be easy for DUer who are all about Justice to do as you did and run with the Facts.

Where are the defenders of the Clinton Record? Can they show up here and promoted Justice? Promote Justice in this thread.

Hope everyone for Justice sees an opportunity to express facts and the truth instead of insulting so many here on DU. I do not want any Primary warring factions; just the facts please, if you can.

[misterhighwasted]

36. Lol. justice for bernie? I believe he left that up to the AA community to decide

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Appears they did just that.
HRC is their majority choice.

Meh

[DhhD]

45. Justice for Clinton? So the AA community sides with the 1% accepting and promoting HRC Record?

Some in America say that people vote against their own interest when they vote for Republicans financed through wealthy fascists.


On Nov 17, 2015, HRC came to Texas for two fund raisers. The second one, in Austin, Texas, was private.
Can someone from the AA community (see your reply above) give me any information about a rumored $34,000.00 a plate luncheon coming for those seeking Justice in America?

[TM99]

37. Facts escape you, eh?

Like days later after Liberty University, Sanders & West spoke at a black college?

Try again.

Oh, and let me guess? You are not a person of color.

[sufrommich]

10. This article is from August. nt

[DhhD]

18. Let us in on flip flops by Clinton since August, since April 2015. Please provide text from Clinton

if you would like or maybe someone else will explain why Bernie is being refused Justice.

[sufrommich]

20. "explain why Bernie is being refused Justice"

What does that even mean?

[DhhD]

31. Explain why persons are refused Justice in America.

[Cali_Democrat]

35. How is Bernie being refused justice? nt

[DhhD]

40. How is Hillary Clinton receiving Justice for her flips from Black Lives Matter?

[riversedge]

23. Lordy lordy--Posting vile Goodman From AUGUST 2015 again!! .What is wrong with you!!

Just trying to create more divisiveness!

[DhhD]

32. Seeking Justice has divided some. Why?

[NCTraveler]

24. This article isn't even close to relevant today.

Multiple inaccuracies just due to lapse of time. Similar to if I said what Sanders should say in his concession speech and then dump it as an op four months after he actually delivers it.

[DhhD]

41. The 1% fascists are not flipping. Justice means going back into time for some and not forgiving

in the now. Why is HRC being given a pass on her record of Injustice? 1% Trickle Down.

[NCTraveler]

42. Ok. Nt

[leftofcool]

28. And #BLM should care what you think because?????????????

[DhhD]

34. We all deserve Justice even me here on DU.