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FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:24 AM Nov 2015

What a sense of entitlement - "It's my turn"

Sorry but if that defines your purpose for running for the highest office in the land you have automatically disqualified yourself from consideration

and I don't care how snarky the comments your supporters can concoct.



An Election to the most powerful office in the World MUST consist of TRUE devotion to your fellow citizens the least of which would be the working class of this country - NOT just those MONIED enough to enrich your War Chest.

To preside over this country's population you must have an HONEST devotion to those the poorest to those the richest, regardless of color, gender, and religion. And by HONEST you don't merely state the most popular position by the latest poll results, but rather you have worked a life time to progress this agenda.

FUCK your TURN

I want a future for my kids

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What a sense of entitlement - "It's my turn" (Original Post) FreakinDJ Nov 2015 OP
Deal with it. Most people will vote for a different candidate than you, for many reasons. boston bean Nov 2015 #1
Is that why some GOP candidates beat Hillary in the polling FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #2
Your post chastising people for voting for a candidate will have absolutely ZERO effect on any boston bean Nov 2015 #3
Agree. SusanaMontana41 Nov 2015 #35
Thanks Dem2 Nov 2015 #77
Including viability in the general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #6
Wow TransitJohn Nov 2015 #87
Who said that? CTyankee Nov 2015 #4
I love when you post from the hip! JustAnotherGen Nov 2015 #68
+1 Agschmid Nov 2015 #84
You are confusing Democratic politics with republican politics Gothmog Nov 2015 #5
DWS disagrees with you. Tell her "thanks" if you see her. nt antigop Nov 2015 #11
In my view, if all those folks who say they will not vote pangaia Nov 2015 #44
It's an amazing tautology, isn't it? Scootaloo Nov 2015 #81
Sanders is not going to get these votes until he shows that he is viable in the general election Gothmog Nov 2015 #88
Has Hillary Clinton ever said or implied "It's My Turn"? KittyWampus Nov 2015 #7
It's Thursday. Thursday is "It's My Turn" complaining day. Wednesday is "Logo Arrow" day. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #8
Of course not. Hyperbole time Stuckinthebush Nov 2015 #10
I was wondering the same thing. The OP has the phrase in quotes. I'd like to see the actual quote. yardwork Nov 2015 #17
That is the actual quote.... quickesst Nov 2015 #51
OMG SHE REALLY SAID THIS?! LINKS PLEASE! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #9
Well, Ann Romney said that when Mitt was running for president. classof56 Nov 2015 #20
I think the OP is stuck in ... JoePhilly Nov 2015 #23
The Zeal To Elect A Female President Has Overshadowed The Good Judgement Of Many cantbeserious Nov 2015 #12
DING DING DING ... We have a WINNER folks FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #13
And that is the sad truth. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #15
Yeah, because it can't be both. Women have terrible judgement! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #16
Qualifications isn't everything davidn3600 Nov 2015 #18
Clinton voted to authorize the use of force... uberblonde Nov 2015 #34
Accomplished WHAT for WHOM - surely you jest FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #19
What you said! Hepburn Nov 2015 #61
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #14
Omigosh, that picture perfectly illustrates it..... Jackilope Nov 2015 #25
"our Corporate Fish" Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #28
The poster wrote a whole dissertation for me based on not understanding a metaphor. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #40
Just took a creative take on looking at the photo differently. Jackilope Nov 2015 #53
"Some times a cigar is just a cigar." DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #55
Is that suppose to be some kind at Dig at Bill Clinton ? bahrbearian Nov 2015 #85
Some times a cylindrical object is a cylindrical object. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #86
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #31
Question: The TPP's Intelectual Property Rights - does that include Pharma FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #36
Provide links where Hillary said it was "her turn." leftofcool Nov 2015 #21
Considering the easy path the DNC paved for her... davidn3600 Nov 2015 #29
George HW Bush said that... Punkingal Nov 2015 #22
Thanksgiving can be SO stressful!!! JoePhilly Nov 2015 #24
Technically Speaking anyone running for president thinks it is their turn. Gore1FL Nov 2015 #26
You've nailed! Every HRC devotee I have encountered supports her because it is "her turn." Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #27
A lot of the post here on DU suggest Sanders is saying it is his turn so he can start a revolution. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #30
Sanders doesn't have a sense of "Entitlement" just a purpose FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #32
He is saying it is time to have a revolution, that tells me if he is not elected it is time for Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #47
She never said that...you should delete this post GitRDun Nov 2015 #33
its like a reflection of the republican party's bubble. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #41
She didn't have to--her flunkies and running dogs did Demeter Nov 2015 #42
^^^this^^^ peacebird Nov 2015 #54
A very long response to say a very simple thing GitRDun Nov 2015 #62
Thanks for confirming she didn't say it Beaverhausen Nov 2015 #67
I haven't heard the phrase "running dogs" for a long time! yardwork Nov 2015 #69
The Weekly Standard? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #78
20 recs for this bullshit lie Beaverhausen Nov 2015 #37
+1 moobu2 Nov 2015 #38
And not a single piece of evidence that Hillary ever said this. yardwork Nov 2015 #70
In all fairness Depaysement Nov 2015 #39
You think so? Have you heard about the allegations of corruption in her "family" foundation? Demeter Nov 2015 #43
Guess you haven't heard how it's all been debunked? uberblonde Nov 2015 #46
That's not what the business press says Demeter Nov 2015 #49
Not "Debunked" at all and an active investigation FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #63
The whole state of Tex-Ass is corrupt! wolfie001 Nov 2015 #50
Have you heard the allegations she killed Vince Foster ToxMarz Nov 2015 #57
I think you are in the wrong Forum... Demeter Nov 2015 #58
Oh, I thought we were throwing around allegations here ToxMarz Nov 2015 #64
Yes, I read the article Depaysement Nov 2015 #73
Is that an actual quote? lame54 Nov 2015 #45
No, it's not. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #76
Who said "it's my turn"? I keep seeing people around here claiming that's what has been said... George II Nov 2015 #48
The only people saying that are Hillary's opponents. MineralMan Nov 2015 #52
So you don't think a WOMAN should be President! MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #56
Its not the Gender - its the Flip Flops FreakinDJ Nov 2015 #59
Oh! So a WOMAN can't change her mind?! MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #65
LOL! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #72
I don't think she's indicated that attitude personally. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #60
Using quotes for something someone never said... BlueCheese Nov 2015 #66
Silly me... MattSh Nov 2015 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueCheese Nov 2015 #75
The inference I make is it is okay to libel someone as long as you don't like him or her. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #80
... DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #71
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #79
The imagination is a beautiful thing. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #82
"It's my turn"...... quickesst Nov 2015 #83
Thank you for the disdain bordering on hostility... brooklynite Nov 2015 #89

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
3. Your post chastising people for voting for a candidate will have absolutely ZERO effect on any
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:33 AM
Nov 2015

one's vote or the election.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
5. You are confusing Democratic politics with republican politics
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:47 AM
Nov 2015

The concept of its being "your turn" has never been part of the Democratic Party primary process. If this concept did applied to Democrats, then how did Barack Obama get the nomination in 2008. Under your theory, it would have been Clinton's turn in 2008

Sanders is not polling well in most states because it is not his turn but because he is not a viable candidate in the general election. If you want to see Sanders expand his base, then explain how Sanders can win in the general election when the Kochs will be spending $887 million and the RNC candidate may spend an additional billion dollars. Many Democrats will not support Sanders unless and until he shows that he can win in the general election. I like Sanders and according to the online quiz or test, Sanders is closer to my positions than Hillary Clinton. However, I live in the real world and will be supporting Hillary Clinton for a number of reasons including my belief that she will be able to compete in the general election

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
44. In my view, if all those folks who say they will not vote
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

for Sanders because they think he can not win the GE, actually voted for hi, he would win the primary AND the GE.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
88. Sanders is not going to get these votes until he shows that he is viable in the general election
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. Has Hillary Clinton ever said or implied "It's My Turn"?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 09:48 AM
Nov 2015

She's been working her ass off in government for years now. She doesn't act like she expects it cause it's her turn. I've never seen her say that.

That YOU throw out a straw man, an invented pile of nonsense like "it's my turn" when she doesn't say that or act that way shows how prejudiced you are against a candidate based on your own MISCONCEPTIONS.

I don't want Hillary but acknowledge she's worked hard, is highly qualified and will probably win the nomination.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
10. Of course not. Hyperbole time
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

I have a right wing neighbor who thinks Trump is incredible. He has said similar things about Clinton. When your supposed "allies" sound like the crazy right then we have entered stupid space.

God, get this damn primary over so the anti Hillary and anti Bernie s**t will cease. I have no idea how posters think this crap up.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
51. That is the actual quote....
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:15 PM
Nov 2015

...dreamed up by some of Bernie's supporters, along with "it's her turn", the "coronation" etc, none of which has ever been said by Hillary or her supporters, well, unless it was to point out the dishonesty of their use.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
20. Well, Ann Romney said that when Mitt was running for president.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:30 AM
Nov 2015

Nope, don't have a link, but I clearly remember her saying "It's our turn!" rather petulantly during an interview I was watching. I've never-ever heard or seen Hillary say that, but like you, would appreciate a link if someone can post it. Meanwhile, Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

Blessings.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. I think the OP is stuck in ...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:35 AM
Nov 2015

... the anger phase of grief.

Lashing out with wild accusations.

Or maybe its just the stress of Thanksgiving.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
16. Yeah, because it can't be both. Women have terrible judgement!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:22 AM
Nov 2015

The passive aggressive sexism isn't at all surprising. Hillary has accomplished 10x what Bernie has, but it doesn't matter and still isn't good enough. This is the story of America.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
18. Qualifications isn't everything
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:42 AM
Nov 2015

Ideas, beliefs, and position on the issues matter to me FAR more than someone's "accomplishments."

Hillary's tenure in the Senate also wasn't that stellar. She based her votes on popular opinion at the time because she wanted to use the office as a stepping stone to the presidency. She voted for the Iraq war because it was popular back then. Now she's against it because the war isn't popular. She was against gay marriage back then because it was popular to be against it. Now it's not.

Her whole life has been a carefully calculated attempt to win the White House. Any candidate that thinks that way...male or female...scares me.

uberblonde

(1,215 posts)
34. Clinton voted to authorize the use of force...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:49 AM
Nov 2015

While the administration was insisting they would go to the U.N. first -- while she was representing the state that was hit by the 9/11 attacks. But according to you, that's a black and white, easy decision. Uh huh.

In the meantime, principled pacifist Bernie Sanders continues to vote for the Lockheed Martin money pit that is the F-35 fighter jet because... politicians compromise. Just like how Bernie didn't vote for the AUMF, but did vote to fund the war.

Which is just another way of voting for the war, right? Also:

In 2006 he supported the failed Iran Freedom Support Act, which called for the overthrow the Iranian government through US "soft power" coup attempts and a color revolution facilitated by the infamous National Endowment For Democracy.
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
19. Accomplished WHAT for WHOM - surely you jest
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 10:44 AM
Nov 2015

Halburton - when she used her position of Secretary of State to go pimping Fracking all across Europe

Jackilope

(819 posts)
25. Omigosh, that picture perfectly illustrates it.....
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:36 AM
Nov 2015

... the ramming and jamming of "in your face" of HRC as the "inevitable" candidate by media, DNC, and supporters of HRC on the group.

Yeah! She is gonna flop on the TPP and it smells and is ugly. We are gonna lose jobs, but accept this huge, awful, smelly fish.

Yeah, Wall St. loves HRC and thinks it is cute that she says "Cut that out", knowing she really doesn't mean it. Now take this fish!

Polls indicate that our Corporate Fish is in the lead! Democratic Socialism we can't and won't consider, now accept this big, smelly Corporate Fish! Don't try to fight it or counter with with legitimate concerns .... the GOP has bigger, smellier, vile fish. Whatcha gonna do about that? ::shoves fish closer to face::





DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
86. Some times a cylindrical object is a cylindrical object.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:48 AM
Nov 2015
Is that suppose to be some kind at Dig at Bill Clinton ?


Some times a cylindrical object is just a cylindrical object. And some times a fan of DSB is a fan of DSB is just a fan of DSB. What am I wearing, lol?


 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
36. Question: The TPP's Intelectual Property Rights - does that include Pharma
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:57 AM
Nov 2015

Question came up when a certain Hedge Fund Manager bought 60 year old Rights to a drug so he could jack up the price 4000%. I thought patent rights only lasted 30 years


The BIGGER question being - will the TPP lock the US into increased drug prices for generations to come ...

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
29. Considering the easy path the DNC paved for her...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:40 AM
Nov 2015

...it's pretty obvious someone is fulfilling a deal.

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
26. Technically Speaking anyone running for president thinks it is their turn.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:38 AM
Nov 2015

Otherwise they wouldn't be running.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
32. Sanders doesn't have a sense of "Entitlement" just a purpose
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:44 AM
Nov 2015

a sense of purpose to resuscitate the Working Class in this country

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
47. He is saying it is time to have a revolution, that tells me if he is not elected it is time for
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

a revolution. Yes, he feels entitled.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
33. She never said that...you should delete this post
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 11:47 AM
Nov 2015

It's fine to like Bernie better for whatever reason you choose.

None of us are in any kind of position to assert Hillary doesn't care about the poor, sick, young, old, take your pick.

We may not like her solutions, but to assert we know her motives is not cool.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
42. She didn't have to--her flunkies and running dogs did
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:05 PM
Nov 2015
Fmr Obama Campaign Manager: It's Hillary's 'Turn' to Be President

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/fmr-obama-campaign-manager-its-hillarys-turn_836452.html

Feb 2, 2015--President Obama's former campaign manager, Jim Messina, said today that it was Hillary Clinton's "turn" to be the next president of the United States:

"We want Hillary Clinton to be the next president of the United States," Messina told an MSNBC host. "It's her turn and her time. I think she would be the right leader for this country moving forward. We're going to do whatever it takes to make sure she's the president of the United States."




‘It’s Never Anyone’s Turn to Be President’

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/it-s-never-anyone-s-turn-be-president_978588.html

The Scrapbook’s faith in the younger generation has just spiked upwards. A reader emails us an editorial from the Zephyr, student paper of the Brearley School, the very liberal prep school on Manhattan’s Upper East Side. A tip of The Scrapbook’s homburg to author and editor in chief Claire Kozak for the cogently argued and gracefully written piece, which we reproduce here:

I am, without question, a feminist. I have attended an all-girls school for nearly ten years, and I have had the remarkable opportunity to grow up in an environment that is dedicated to educating and empowering women. I believe that we should have a woman president. But when that day comes, I want that woman to be elected -because of her accomplishments. Not her gender.

However, Hillary Clinton’s popularity seems to be based on her identity as a woman. Since she announced her candidacy in a video where she claimed to be the voice of the “everyday American,” she has answered very few questions on substantial issues. She’s spoken about a small number of key issues including campaign reform and immigration—topics where her opinion will be popular among the Democratic community. But mainly, her selling point is speaking for the American people. This might be a noble cause, but it is a campaign strategy that doesn’t tell us much about her plans. And yet, she continues an unusually smooth and silent glide towards the White House. In early February, President Obama’s former campaign manager Jim Messina voiced the phrase that many have now made their own, “It’s Hillary’s Turn.”

This phrase has a complicated history. In past years, it has actually referred to the political tradition of the vice president or vice presidential candidate becoming the party’s nominee. However, the phrase has been appropriated by many of Hillary’s fans to signify her rightful claim to the oval office because it’s time for a woman president.

But the fact is, it’s never anyone’s turn to be president. The presidency is one of the most complex and demanding positions in the world, and when someone is chosen to lead the United States of America, it should be because they are the most qualified person for the job. Gender, race, socio-economic status, or religion should not factor into a presidential election.

Margaret Thatcher did not become Prime Minister of the United Kingdom because of her gender. She earned the votes of the British people with the clarity of her positions. She made it very clear what her policies were, and she won that office three times. Benazir Bhutto did not serve two terms as the Prime Minister of Pakistan because she was a woman—she led her country because voters thought she was the most equipped person to do so at the time. Golda Meir was elected as the fourth Prime Minister of Israel because of her politics and previous experience as the Minister of International Affairs. All of these women leaders were highly qualified and clear in their positions.

If anyone “deserves” to be president, it should be because of his or her policies, promises, plans for the country, and political record. It shouldn’t be because the government needs to diversify. Feminism and gender equality are relevant and highly important issues, without a doubt. But we cannot elect a woman president just because it is time for a woman to be president.

And when we do elect a female president, it should be because she is the most qualified person for the job, because she has won the hearts and minds of the American people with her promises and positions on national and international issues. As of now, Mrs. Clinton has barely campaigned. She has steered clear of major issues like America’s war on terror or her plans for the conflict in the Middle East, focusing instead on the feel-good notion of representing Americans. She has spoken only on issues of little substance, and has avoided controversial and personal topics that need to be addressed.

So, Mrs. Clinton, start answering questions. Start telling us your policies, instead of making general statements about how you want to be the voice of the American people. Show us why you are the most qualified person for the job. Once you can do that, you might get my vote. But you need to earn it, first.


Hillary's Turn: Inside Her Improbable, Victorious Senate Campaign

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5131QS8FW5L._SX317_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Hillarys-Turn-Improbable-Victorious-Campaign/dp/0684873028

Hillary’s Turn by James Mann

Every secretary of state, we’re told, is going to be different from those who came before, but traditional demands inevitably take precedence...New secretaries of state always seek to portray their tenure as a bold departure from the immediate past. The secretary’s staff and the State Department press corps both have an interest in creating a striking image for the new occupant of our nation’s most prestigious Cabinet position. The secretary’s aides are eager to attract attention and positive coverage for their boss. The reporters must deal with editors, producers, and audiences interested in novelty. Yet both parties face a hurdle: The job of secretary of state is, by its very nature, one whose daily staples are diplomacy, bureaucracy, and (usually) continuity. Novelty, in other words, can be hard to come by. Given this problem, one standard approach has been to emphasize how different the secretary is from his or her predecessor.

Madeleine Albright, Bill Clinton’s secretary of state, established herself not merely as the first woman to be secretary of state but as someone blunter and more colorful than her predecessor, the gray, ever-circumspect Warren Christopher. After Colin Powell replaced Albright, his supporters boosted his image by pointing to his broader knowledge of military and security affairs: He already had served as both national security adviser and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. After Powell, who discovered that the key decisions on war with Iraq seemed to be made in his absence, it was said of Condoleezza Rice that it was nice to have a secretary of state who enjoyed a close relationship with the President.

Enter Hillary Clinton. Over the past decades, many politicians have run the Pentagon, most of them former members of Congress (Mel Laird, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Les Aspin, Bill Cohen, Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel)—no doubt because one of the principal tasks for any secretary of defense is to win congressional approval of the defense budget. Politicians have run the CIA as well: George H.W. Bush, Porter Goss, Panetta. But in 2009 Clinton became the first elected politician in nearly three decades to serve as secretary of state (and the last two before her, Ed Muskie in the Carter Administration and Christian Herter in the Eisenhower years, were only replacement secretaries who filled in at the tail end of their Administrations).

Clinton wasn’t close to the President. When she started the job, she had little experience in diplomacy. Almost inevitably, Clinton, her staff, and the reporters covering her turned her profile as politician into the defining feature of her role as secretary of state. As she crisscrossed the globe, Clinton hosted town meetings, met with civic groups, gave speeches, held press conferences, and sat for interview after interview. In truth, some of her predecessors had undertaken such activities, too; the concept of public diplomacy has taken on ever-greater importance in foreign policy over the past two decades. But it’s fair to say that none of her predecessors did as many public events as Clinton.

After all the sound and fury, what should we make of Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state? How much difference did all of her globe-trotting and public events make for American foreign policy? What did she accomplish in concrete terms?

Kim Ghattas’s new book, The Secretary: A Journey with Hillary Clinton from Beirut to the Heart of American Power, presents itself as an effort to answer these questions: MORE


The Secretary: A Journey With Hillary Clinton From Beirut to the Heart of American Power By Kim Ghattas • Times Books • 2013 • 368 pages • $27

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
62. A very long response to say a very simple thing
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:35 PM
Nov 2015

Author James Mann, who the New York times described his book Rise of the Vulcans about Bush foreign policy advisers:

“Lucid, shrewd and after so many high decibel screeds from both the right and the left, blessedly level headed. It is necessary reading for anyone interested in understanding how and why America came to deal with the rest of the world the way it is doing under the Bush administration.”
— The New York Times


The NYT describes him as level headed. To you he is either a flunkie or a running dog.

Jim Messina, National Chief of Staff in 2008, Campaign Manager in 2012 to President Obama is again either a flunkie or a running dog.

Their crime? Expressing an opinion you don't like.

You should delete your post as well.

The problem with some of you Sanders folks is you are so reflexive when hearing anything you don't like, you lash out with no thought for how an objective observer might see your posts.

It's false to make the claim Hillary says or thinks it's her turn. It is equally repulsive to denigrate two accomplished people who may use the term "her turn". For all we know they see "her turn" as meaning a continuation of Obama's agenda.

Your look isn't good. Running dog? Flunkie? I think not. That little bug in support of a Sanders write in campaign via Loonix isn't a good look either.

Try being positive about Bernie. It's a better strategy. You can see a few ideas in my journal if you are interested.

Happy Thanksgiving.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
69. I haven't heard the phrase "running dogs" for a long time!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

Isn't that what Mao called the U.S.?

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of Putin?

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
38. +1
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:02 PM
Nov 2015

If anyone's running because it's their turn it's Bernie Sanders. He's been plotting and scheming for it for over 30 years.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
39. In all fairness
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

If we were picking a CEO, she would highly qualified.

And, yes, that is a double entendre.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
43. You think so? Have you heard about the allegations of corruption in her "family" foundation?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:06 PM
Nov 2015

If that's the kind of CEO you are thinking about...

uberblonde

(1,215 posts)
46. Guess you haven't heard how it's all been debunked?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

I really get frustrated when half-informed people make these pronouncements.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
63. Not "Debunked" at all and an active investigation
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:39 PM
Nov 2015
At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0





Integrity Matters

wolfie001

(2,227 posts)
50. The whole state of Tex-Ass is corrupt!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:15 PM
Nov 2015

Between the gerrymandering and letting scum like Tom DeLay off the hook. But, let's have the repuke hacks investigate every penny spent by the Clinton Foundation. Just think of the wingnuts' heads exploding when she wins!

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
57. Have you heard the allegations she killed Vince Foster
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

With her bare hands!

If that's the kind of CEO you are thinking about.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
73. Yes, I read the article
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 01:57 PM
Nov 2015

It was weak, very weak. That's why it got no traction.

Besides, you didn't get the post.

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Who said "it's my turn"? I keep seeing people around here claiming that's what has been said...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

....but it NEVER happened.

Sad that people have to make stuff up to soothe themselves.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
52. The only people saying that are Hillary's opponents.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015

It has nothing to do with "turns." It's nobody's "turn." It's an election. The people will decide whose "turn" it is to be President.

In 2008, they decided it was Obama's "turn." Hillary Clinton is running again. If enough people vote for her, then it will be her "turn."

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
56. So you don't think a WOMAN should be President!
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

Typical BernieBro claptrap.

WE WILL NOT SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
60. I don't think she's indicated that attitude personally.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

For one thing, I think she's smarter than that.

But DWS isn't (smarter than that). Good thing is, I don't think the thumb on the scale is working.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
74. Silly me...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

I thought starting a war on ginned up evidence was highly unethical.

But it's using quotes incorrectly that's the real problem.

Response to MattSh (Reply #74)

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
83. "It's my turn"......
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 08:17 PM
Nov 2015

..."the chosen one", "inevitable",blah, blah, blah. Terms dreamed up by the Bernie crowd in the hope, ala fox news style, that if you repeat something often enough, people will believe it. Fortunately there aren't many fox news fans here.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
89. Thank you for the disdain bordering on hostility...
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

...as long as you let your emotions cloud your judgement of the Clinton campaign, it increases the already high likelihood of her winning.

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