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bigtree

(85,996 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:01 PM Dec 2015

Martin O’Malley says San Bernardino rampage might finally force change in gun laws

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Martin O’Malley expressed hope Thursday that the rampage that left 14 people dead in San Bernardino, California, might finally lead the country to tighten its gun laws.

“We’ve now had more mass shootings than we’ve had days in this year, and perhaps this is the incident that tips the balance and we finally do this,” he told Fusion’s Jorge Ramos (host, Univision).

When Ramos pressed him, suggesting that nothing ever seems to bridge the ideological divide over guns, the former Maryland governor pointed out that more than 400,000 people have been killed by guns in the United States since the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

“And the vast majority of them are guns in the hands of other native-born Americans,” he said. “Perhaps this is that incident where we see that there’s actually a connection here, that it’s not safe, it’s not right, it’s not responsible for us to allow people to buy combat weapons, combat assault weapons so readily in our country. We’re the only developed nation on the planet that allows that.”

As investigators searched for a motive in San Bernardino, President Obama said Thursday that it was possible the attack was “terrorist-related.” O’Malley, too, said it “looks like it has some terrorist overtones possibly,” and he stressed a need for the country to adjust to what he called “the changing nature of conflict.”

“We need to continue to improve our information-sharing, our intelligence-gathering,” he said. “Connecting the dots. I mean, here’s a person who had traveled from Saudi Arabia, who owned more than one combat assault weapon, and how do we better connect those dots?”

read: http://fusion.net/story/241429/martin-omalley-says-san-bernardino-rampage-might-change-gun-laws/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=FusionRSS

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Carlos Chirinos ‏@carl_chirinos

Martin O'Malley ‏@MartinOMalley 5h5 hours ago
@URJ @RJCHQ - this violence must stop! I am proposing these bold executive actions on day 1 https://martinomalley.com/the-latest/7-executive-actions-to-reduce-and-prevent-gun-violence/
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Martin O’Malley says San Bernardino rampage might finally force change in gun laws (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2015 OP
B.S. If 20 massacred first-graders didn't do it, nothing will, sadly. kath Dec 2015 #1
So we give up, right??? elleng Dec 2015 #4
Thanks for this, bigtree. elleng Dec 2015 #2
No, it won't. If Sandy Hook didn't nothing will. leftofcool Dec 2015 #3
Looks like NRA's got you just where they want you. elleng Dec 2015 #5
First, I am not a member of the NRA leftofcool Dec 2015 #12
Not 'in bed,' of course, elleng Dec 2015 #14
No, it isn't leftofcool Dec 2015 #17
issues like this one bigtree Dec 2015 #7
I agree. But look what just happened in the Senate. leftofcool Dec 2015 #13
I wish he were right, but sadly his is probably very wrong Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #6
I'm 55 bigtree Dec 2015 #10
I agree more advocacy is needed Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #15
Make it so, America. FSogol Dec 2015 #8
Lol EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #9
who spends time on a political site bigtree Dec 2015 #11
I'm not promoting it EdwardBernays Dec 2015 #31
I doubt it - sadly MaggieD Dec 2015 #16
only optimism expressed in response, so far bigtree Dec 2015 #18
Well he's being a bit naive MaggieD Dec 2015 #19
I've seen the walls of opposition crumble in the face of public advocacy and leadership bigtree Dec 2015 #20
Which law? How would it impact this shooting? aikoaiko Dec 2015 #21
I get that bigtree Dec 2015 #22
That's a fair response. Let's see what the facts are in the case. aikoaiko Dec 2015 #23
While I share Left's and Maggie's pessimism, I have to give this a rec. MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #24
there is one way we can change the laws.... restorefreedom Dec 2015 #25
The ONLY hope we have is because of their bigotry Politicalboi Dec 2015 #26
Who's trying to stop Muslims from buying guns? NT Doctor Who Dec 2015 #28
Unfortunately, Mr. O'Malley is mistaken. Juicy_Bellows Dec 2015 #27
K&R Jamaal510 Dec 2015 #29
I hope he's right davidpdx Dec 2015 #30

elleng

(130,948 posts)
2. Thanks for this, bigtree.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:11 PM
Dec 2015

'This violence must stop! I am proposing these bold executive actions on day 1.'

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
12. First, I am not a member of the NRA
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:21 PM
Dec 2015

Secondly, I don't own any guns. And third, did you just see what happened in the Senate today? If a group of babies getting shot to pieces didn't change gun control laws, what makes your candidate believe that a rampage in California will? Don't ever accuse me of being in bed with the NRA. I have been fighting these assholes for 50 years!

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
17. No, it isn't
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:34 PM
Dec 2015

The attitude the NRA wants to foster is "a well armed society is a polite society." I think we all know this is horseshit. The NRA doesn't give one damn about gun control because they know it isn't going to happen. They know that nothing is going to change. We won't see real changes unless the 2nd Amendment is either repealed or restructured. That won't happen because you will never get even most Democrats behind it. The best we are going to get is a few more laws on the books, maybe. And maybe an assault weapons ban. I am for doing everything possible to dismante the NRA.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
7. issues like this one
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:15 PM
Dec 2015

...are really what these elections are all about; at least, to those of us who are actively seeking to change the status quo.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. I wish he were right, but sadly his is probably very wrong
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:14 PM
Dec 2015

We have seen too many mass shootings in this country and nothing has been done, I unfortunately don't think anything will happen this time either.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
10. I'm 55
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:18 PM
Dec 2015

...I can't count anymore how many times I've seen that sentiment collapse under the weight of events and public advocacy.

We have another opportunity in this election to advance a candidate who has experience actually accomplishing gun safety legislation against a divided legislature and the millions of dollars invested in my state by the NRA.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. I agree more advocacy is needed
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:26 PM
Dec 2015

I am a Bernie guy but I really like O'Malley and would consider him in a future Presidential campaign. I actually wish I could vote for two candidates so I could vote for him this time, but unfortunately I have to choose one or the other.

I am glad he is talking about this issue even if I think he is far more optimistic than me that this particular event is going to change anything.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
9. Lol
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 09:17 PM
Dec 2015

Americans don't give a shit about gun violence.

Sure look at all the 'liberal' gun nuts on DU.

This is just normal.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
31. I'm not promoting it
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 06:01 AM
Dec 2015

I'm acknowledging it.

If I say global warming is real is that promoting global warming?

Besides - the Senate just yesterday voted to both defund planned parenthood and reject new gun control measures.

It's obvious our country is ridiculous. And it's obvious that Americans don't care about gun violence.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
19. Well he's being a bit naive
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:09 PM
Dec 2015

If they didn't care about 20 six year olds this won't change anything. And political supporters generally want to support their candidate. That's why they are called supporters.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
20. I've seen the walls of opposition crumble in the face of public advocacy and leadership
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:14 PM
Dec 2015

...from the top, in my state of Md..

As Bill Clinton was fond of saying in his own presidential campaign, 'Cynicism is a luxury."

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
22. I get that
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 10:21 PM
Dec 2015

...you're a skeptic about gun safety legislation.

I'll let the facts known in this case progress a bit before attempting to debate your question.

I do think many gun safety proposals and laws already in place in some states (notably, some of the strictest advanced under O'Malley in Md.) would be more effective if implemented on a national level.

 

MeNMyVolt

(1,095 posts)
24. While I share Left's and Maggie's pessimism, I have to give this a rec.
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:00 PM
Dec 2015

We need to do something, and if that doesn't help, then something else. Can't just give up.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
25. there is one way we can change the laws....
Thu Dec 3, 2015, 11:08 PM
Dec 2015

change the people writing them.

a dem wh and clean out of the nra butt kissing deadwood in congress just might do it. but i am afraid it will take more than one election cycle.

these eo's sure as hell wouldn't hurt though...

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
26. The ONLY hope we have is because of their bigotry
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:32 AM
Dec 2015

Imagine Muslims legally buying guns. The HORROR!!

We better have background checks if Muslims can buy guns.

But of course their background check would involve what church do you attend? And do you believe in the lord Jebus christ?

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
27. Unfortunately, Mr. O'Malley is mistaken.
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 12:51 AM
Dec 2015

I love the sentiment but what legislation could possibly be passed that would do dick of good?

In my opinion, the ONLY way we can curb gun violence in this country is to stigmatize it. We did it with cigarettes, perhaps we can do it with guns. We sure as shit can't do it with laws.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. I hope he's right
Fri Dec 4, 2015, 05:08 AM
Dec 2015

But I am skeptical that anything will stop the shootings. After Sandy Hook, many of us felt that was going to be a wake up call for stricter gun legislation. Yet it has been three years this month and we have seen very little done. I would say the only real improvement has been that law enforcement is getting better at responding due to the amount of shootings there have been.

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