Given that Hillary has the older/retired vote, I would bet Bernie has the working-age/union vote.

[reformist2]

Despite the meaningless endorsements by the union bosses, I think there is good reason to believe that Bernie actually has the majority of the rank-and-file union workers behind him.

How about the unions actually poll their members??? Hmm????

[RandySF]

1. This is based on what?

[reformist2]

5. Logical deduction.

[RandySF]

7. Uh huh

[mythology]

22. And yet every union endorsement says they polled their members and Clinton won

Are they all lying?

Your "logical deduction" sounds more like wishful thinking.

[Omaha Steve]

24. AFSCME didn't ask me crap

Yet I used to give to the AFSCME PEOPLE PAC regularly until this happened. What does that tell you?

[840high]

2. I'm older/retired - voting for Bernie. None of

my friends care for Hillary. They are split between Bernie and Trump.

[RGinNJ]

6. +1

[MaggieD]

3. I'll take that bet

How much do you want to lose?

The unions have actually polled their members! They support Hillary.

[2pooped2pop]

9. they may have polled the 1% that showed up to the meeting but

they are NOT polling the bulk of the rank and file members. The endorsements are the union leaders only.

[MaggieD]

17. Nope not true

The press releases they've put out note many different methods of polling members.

[caine1969]

27. Its true

I'm a black male who's with a union at United Parcel Service. Most of the white males there are Republicans. When they say a union has endorced a candidate. It's from the union leaders, not those union employees.

[bvf]

14. Do you have numbers representing

these polls you refer to?

Absent those, you're just pulling claims out of your butt.

[MaggieD]

18. Look them up

Every endorsement comes with a press release that describes how the endorsement was decided.

[mythology]

21. It's not the actual numbers, but unless you want to accuse the union of lying

they are saying their polling showed their members supported Clinton.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/hillary-clinton-wins-major-afscme-union-endorsement/

The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees said in a statement it had gathered feedback from members over six months. Polling data showed a majority of members would support Clinton in the Democratic primary.

[Starry Messenger]

23. They know, we've told them.

From there they move to wanting a survey of every single member of the union, which would take years, considering how hard it is to even get 1000 people in my local to answer an email about health benefits.

It's just sour grapes. They were perfectly fine with the same process used in the Nurses union endorsement of Sanders.

[Omaha Steve]

29. They didn't ask OS an AFSCME PEOPLE PAC contributor

AFSCME president gets a message!

Read the replies.

[Starry Messenger]

30. Excuse me?

I am an AFT member. 75% of organized labor has endorsed HRC.

[Omaha Steve]

32. Perhaps you have my email blocked?

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. Uh she has 75% of Union endorsements already

Want to bet?

[peacebird]

8. Well, Hill does not have this retired womans vote.... So there's that. Bernie all the way!

[Art_from_Ark]

10. It's Bernie for me, too

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Or, mine. Or, my retired wife's

[George II]

12. I'll book that bet. Clinton has the support of 15+ unions...........

.....representing more than 11 million members. Sanders has the support of a handful of unions representing less than 400,000 members.

That's a ratio of roughly 25-1.

Try researching the rationale behind the endorsements of those unions, they DID poll their members.

All those that I've read show that the majority of the rank-and-file of those unions participated in the decisions and virtually all members had an opportunity to participate. The endorsements for the most part were made by the rank-and-file members.

[taught_me_patience]

13. hes losing in every demographic including millenials

He dies moderately well with white collar north eastern liberals. He gets smashed by blue collar union. This op is way out of touch with reality.

[Omaha Steve]

31. Just who is out of touch?

Iowa is not "white collar north eastern liberals."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-3195.html

[redstateblues]

15. I'm a member of AFTRA and the AF of M

and a strong supporter of Hillary

[Omaha Steve]

33. How many posts do you have in the DU Labor Group?

Just curious since Fred Thompson was AFTRA.

http://www.sagaftra.org/sag-aftra-statement-death-fred-thompson

OS

[hrmjustin]

16. Do you have proof?

[OilemFirchen]

20. Would this post make sense in English?

The "older/retired" vote suggests, appropriately, that these are two separate groups. So "older" but not "retired" would be "working-age", yes?

Aren't "union bosses" "working-age"?

Does Sanders have the "working-age" and "union" vote, as your title suggests, or just the "rank-and-file union" vote per the body of your post?

Finally... lolwut?

[Omaha Steve]

25. AFSCME president Lee Saunders gets message from members about Bernie

Published on Oct 7, 2015
Excerpt of speech by AFSCME International President Lee Saunders to AFSCME Council 28, (State Employees of Washington State) on Friday October 2nd, 2015.

"Three candidates came and spoke to our board. Those three candidates were Martin O'Malley, ex-governor of Maryland. He's a good guy and a good governor. You can give him a round of applause (polite applause). Then it was Hillary Clinton, she came and spoke before our board (polite applause). And then it was Bernie Sanders came and spoke before our board (cheering, loud, sustained applause). Is that some kind of message? Is that some kind of message that I'm hearing?"

[NCTraveler]

26. Yeah, that's how it works.

"Given that Hillary has the older/retired vote, I would bet Bernie has the working-age/union vote."

[davidpdx]

28. No, your wrong

Hillary has 110% of the vote. Just slightly less than Kim Jong Un.