Apparently Sanders' failure to vote on the ACA bill yesterday was for political reasons! See:

[George II]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128080476

He couldn't stick around to vote because he had a plane to catch for New Hampshire to campaign!!!!

[firebrand80]

1. After all, there's no point in throwing your vote behind a lost cause

Am I right, Bernie supporters?

[JonLeibowitz]

34. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks, but I'll continue to back the candidate that represents the people.

[Douglas Carpenter]

55. not to intrude - but just to make sure everyone sees it

[JonLeibowitz]

67. You are QUITE welcome -- Carry On & keep up the GOOD WORK. n/t

[HerbChestnut]

2. Yep.

Knowing that even if it did pass that Obama would veto it. He gave a speech a day after hernia surgery on this bill, calling it a waste of time, which it is.

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. To you and Sanders...

Apparently...

[HerbChestnut]

11. Context is everything.

There have been dozens of bills like this voted down over the years. Everybody knew Obama would veto one of them if it should pass. Nobody expects Obama Care or Planned Parenthood to be defunded so long as a Democrat is in the White House.

[VanillaRhapsody]

14. You mean context like being there for budget meetings

But not solidarity on these issues?

[HerbChestnut]

16. I see the narrative has been decided upon.

Have a good one.

[Douglas Carpenter]

58. um

[VanillaRhapsody]

59. Quality not quantity..

Its about THIS one...

[Douglas Carpenter]

63. yeah, no doubt none of the 83.5% of the votes Hillary missed were the least bit important anyway

While all of the 5% Bernie missed were extremely important

[kath]

105. And keep in mind that Chimpyshit was occupying the White House at the time, so all kinds of awful

Crap was going down in Congress.

[VanillaRhapsody]

113. Source please...

[George II]

21. Waste of time or not, he's getting paid to vote for or against legislation.........

........not to come up with reasons for NOT voting at all.

[HerbChestnut]

23. Refer to the chart that showed Hillary missing the vast majority of votes in the Senate

during her 2008 campaign. Compare that to the number of votes Sanders has missed thus far. The difference is striking.

[Douglas Carpenter]

52. fairness!!? You expect fairness from them??

[VanillaRhapsody]

117. Where is the data supporting this chart?

[bunnies]

24. Was that your view in 2008 as well? nt

[Autumn]

33. what did ya think about all the votes Hillary missed in 2008?

Double plus good amirite sport?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

109. .

https://m.

[notadmblnd]

35. Come and talk to us about Sanders missing votes when he reaches 83.5% missed

as HRC did between Oct and Dec 2007 when she reached her peak. It appears during this time and the first 6 months of 2008- Hillary didn't give two shits in regards to just about anything as a Senator. I guess she was just bored?

She should have been there and not come up with reasons for not voting on much of anything at all. To quote one of her most ardent supporters- "Waste of her time or not, she was getting paid to vote for or against legislation."

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/hillary_clinton/300022

[George II]

43. I didn't put up that skewed chart, someone else did to vainly try to claim that Sanders....

....has only missed a few votes. Unfortunately the chart covers just five weeks this year and the Sanders percentage during that period is MUCH lower than presented.

Funny how Sanders supporters throw out false facts to attempt to discredit his opponent and prop their candidate, but when the fallacy of such "facts" is exposed it becomes "yeah but, yeah but".

[VanillaRhapsody]

65. And yet he made it to budget meetings just fine

We know his priorities now.....still not standing with Democrats....

[CoffeeCat]

3. Obviously Sanders knows that Obama will veto...

Why is this a big deal?

Do you not think that Bernie assessed the situation, knew what the outcome would be--and continued campaigning--knowing full well that Obama would veto anyway?

Sanders' support of Obama has been clear. He has described the ACA as an important first step and he has praised Obama for the progress he's made.

What you are suggesting, that this is for "political" reasons, is baseless hooey.

[HerbChestnut]

5. Never let an opportunity pass

To make your opponent look bad. Facts/Reality be damned.

[VanillaRhapsody]

7. He made this gaffe all by his lonesome

[HerbChestnut]

12. Depends on what you consider a gaffe.

If you're a diehard supporter of the opposing candidate, sure, I could see why you would call it a gaffe. To anyone not completely invested in their candidate's campaign this is no big deal.

[VanillaRhapsody]

116. This is my definition...

Not showing solidarity on womens reproductive rights and the greatest Democratic achievement in decades.....big big big mistake......this WILL come back to haunt....i can see the ad from here already....

[George II]

26. Just like "logo-gate" earlier this week, right?

[HerbChestnut]

27. That was done in bad taste.

It was panned on social media and deserved criticism. This, not so much.

[VanillaRhapsody]

115. Inyour opinion...

[djean111]

4. Hillary missed about 80% of her votes last time she ran for office. So - yawn. n/t

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. Proof please...

Did she miss Obamacares and Plannwd Parenthood.

[HerbChestnut]

15. Do your own research.

There's been charts and tables listed on this website numerous times showing this fact. Doesn't take long to find if you really want to know.

[VanillaRhapsody]

60. You made the claim

Burden of proof os on you...

[djean111]

18. Here ya go - althought this has already been posted here -

Marco Rubio’s absences from the U.S. Senate floor during his presidential campaign have earned him the nickname ‘no show
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/10/democrats-will-have-a-hard-time-criticizing-rubios-voting-record.php

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both had far higher rates of legislative truancy while they ran for the White House in 2007 and 2008.

A DailyMail.com analysis of Senate roll call records found that Rubio has missed 44.6 per cent of his votes since April, the month when he launched his Oval Office bid. That includes a 53.8 per cent absence rate in the third quarter of 2015, from July to September.

In the same quarter of 2007, as he frequently left Washington, D.C. for the Democratic primary’s early voting states, Obama missed 56.3 of his votes.

The final quarter of 2007, leading up to the Iowa Caucuses and New Hampshire Primary, saw the future president post even more dismal numbers – missing 89.4 per cent of his opportunities to shout ‘aye’ or ‘nay.’

Clinton, in hot pursuit of Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, missed 83.5 per cent that quarter.

Throughout the months he was running for president in 2008, Obama skipped 64.3 per cent of his votes as an Illinois U.S. Senator. Clinton’s record was worse still in 2008 – a 68.4 per cent absence rate – through her withdrawal from the race on June 8 of that year.

It is a matter of record, even if you don't like the source for whatever reason.

Bernie did not give a speech promoting Bush's Iraq war, not did he vote yes for that.
Would like to mention that nothing Bernie does, did, or will do in the future would make me a Hillary supporter. So, wasted effort. And - last reply to you, the usual thread-jacking is incredibly boooooring. 'bye!

[Armstead]

28. Paging George....Oh Geeeooooorge! Wherefore art thou George?

[Douglas Carpenter]

53. Crickets .... very loud crickets............

[Douglas Carpenter]

57. you do know the facts, right?

[VanillaRhapsody]

62. And what were those votes on?

[Douglas Carpenter]

66. well obviously none of the 83.5% of the votes Hillary missed had any importance at all while all of

the 5% Bernie missed were life and death issues - even though every one knew his absence wouldn't make any difference whatsoever:

[VanillaRhapsody]

70. Were they votes on the greatest Democratic achievement

In decades?

Bernie himself said of Obamacates and I quote.."we must defend the progress we have made"

Except me....when I am campaigning

[Douglas Carpenter]

73. yeah, none of the 83.5% of the votes missed by Hillary were important- only the 5% missed by Sanders

why that's just common sense:

[VanillaRhapsody]

96. What were these votes on?

Link please....

[VanillaRhapsody]

61. Bye is right

When youve got nothing else...

[AtomicKitten]

19. She missed 83.5%. Here's your proof.

[kath]

29. Here's that graph in an easier-to-read format:

[AtomicKitten]

32. Great! Thanks.

[NurseJackie]

45. Clearly, Bernie isn't taking this campaigning thing very seriously.

Does he even want to win?

[BlueCaliDem]

125. I'm beginning to question that very same thing.

I don't think he's in it to win it. Maybe he did in the beginning, but the numbers don't look good for him, so now it's becoming more about him and his popularity than anything else, securing - in stone - his privileged, well-paying job as a U.S. Senator.

Because why would he embarrass his minority outreach manager when the latter wrote an apology letter to #BlackLivesMatter and Sanders denounced it the next day? Why would he campaign on women's rights and health care reform but then skedaddle when Republicans pushed through a bill to repeal ObamaCare and defund Planned Parenthood? This was the golden opportunity to underscore the credibility of his campaign rhetoric! Why sabotage it? And I can't believe Sanders doesn't knows this.

So why is he running for the Democratic Party's presidential nom if he's at the same time taking actions to sabotage his chances??

[Autumn]

37. I see. You fear Obama won't veto the bill.

Don't worry I'm sure he will.

[JonLeibowitz]

38. Are you fucking kidding me?

She resigned her senate seat to become SoS! Do you know her own history?

[jeff47]

41. You don't know when your own candidate left the Senate? (nt)

[VanillaRhapsody]

69. What diff does that make

Did my candiidate miss voting to defend the greatest Democratic achievement in decades and funding Planned Psrenthood?

[jeff47]

82. So no, you are not aware of when your candidate left the Senate.

Btw, she did miss plenty of important votes, since she missed 83% of them while she was running in 2008.

[VanillaRhapsody]

84. I dont give a shit...wtf diff does that make?

I care about context...

[jeff47]

88. The difference it makes is if you know your candidate's history

you can avoid looking foolish. Like attempting to make a big deal out of one missed vote when your candidate missed hundreds.

[VanillaRhapsody]

89. WTF are you talking about

One missed vote on the greatest achievement for Democrats in decades and defunding Planned Parenthood....its a huge gaffe.

[mythology]

10. At worst this is bad optics for the Sanders campaign

His vote would have had no difference on the outcome and if I remember correctly, he flies commercial so his flight options were probably limited.

Running for president requires missing some votes.

[restorefreedom]

13. "he flies commercial"

refreshing.

[MineralMan]

17. In all fairness, a lot of elected folks are unavailable during

campaign season. It's expected, really. That vote didn't really matter anyhow. President Obama will simply veto the stupid bill anyhow. I wouldn't criticize a presidential candidate for missing a vote like that. Candidates have to be out on the stump. I'm a Hillary supporter, but I'm not bothered by this in any way.

[Cali_Democrat]

20. This doesn't look good for Sanders

The ACA has been one of the biggest issues since Obama's election. It has helped millions of Americans get coverage and the Republicans have done all they can to destroy it. They even shut down the government because of it.

He should have skipped out on campaigning and voted.

Terrible optics.

[Armstead]

30. Optics? Like anyone is paying attention. We had a rather newsworth event in the last couple of days.

We had a rather newsworthy event in the last couple of days.

[2pooped2pop]

22. digging digging digging

and still coming up with nothing against Sanders. Perhaps Hillary has a couple of Samsonite cases you could borrow.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Would his vote have changed the outcome?

[George II]

56. Is that the criteria that a Senator should use to decide whether or not to vote?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

119. What criteria did Hillary use?

[kath]

31. Well...

[MissDeeds]

42. Great post

Those missed votes really hurt Obama. Thanks for the clarity, kath.

[Capt. Obvious]

36. Why don't you respond to the thread you're calling attention to

rather than making a poor attempt at disruptive meta?

[mcar]

39. But, but he wasn't campaigning

I read it right here on DU many times today.

I'm so confused.

[jeff47]

40. That's a lovely glass house you're in. Perhaps you should watch what you're throwing?

[VanillaRhapsody]

90. Link please

[jeff47]

92. Read ALLLLLLL the way to the bottom of the image. (nt)

[VanillaRhapsody]

93. Link please....photoshop still exists...

[jeff47]

95. Then once you read ALLLLLLLL the way to the bottom of the image and put in that URL

You'll get your link

ETA: Or you could go right up to where you asked for "Proof" and received several links.

[VanillaRhapsody]

97. Link please....

Post or its bullshit ..

[jeff47]

99. Ok. There are multiple links in replies to this message.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=874088

So weird that you got your links hours ago, failed to reply to any of them, and are still asking for them.

[VanillaRhapsody]

100. Link to the source please...

I want to read it for myself....what do you have to hide?

[jeff47]

102. It's the same source. That's why it's the same graph. With the same data.

As for hiding, that's what you're trying to do. Poorly.

[VanillaRhapsody]

104. Link it then....come on.....what are you afraid of?

[jeff47]

108. Afraid of? LOL

Ya know, trying to bait me into something hide-worthy is particularly pathetic.

The link was already given to you multiple times, in this thread. Continuing to shout "liar" at me is not going to make that link go away.

[VanillaRhapsody]

111. Yes where did you get your graph?

Lonk to the source of this data or its bullshit....

[VanillaRhapsody]

91. And what were those votes on?

[jeff47]

94. Those are all votes. So they are on every "issue" that came before the Senate in 2008. (nt)

[VanillaRhapsody]

98. What were the issues....

Link please....i do not trust you...

[jeff47]

101. You already received links IN THIS THREAD, MULTIPLE TIMES.

You even replied to a subthread that starts with a link.

[VanillaRhapsody]

103. No you have not provided a link

Me thinks you have something to hide.....you refuse to do so repeatedly....

[jeff47]

106. Actually, I provided you a link to where you can find the same URL in this thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=874126

Do you really think the insults are going to get you anywhere when you already got your answer?

[VanillaRhapsody]

107. No you havent....where did you get the graph....

Back it up....support your claim
.....
Why are you so scared?

[jeff47]

112. From the links above. You know, the ones where you replied later in the subthread.

And since you aren't screaming "SHOW LINKS YOU LIAR" at those posters, it's pretty obvious that this is a sad, desperate attempt to get something hide-worthy.

Congratulations. I now have an ignore list.

[VanillaRhapsody]

114. Show it then.....where did it come from...

Come on....what are you hiding.
.DU is not a legitimate source.....link to where that inage originates....or its bullshit. I see no data

[beam me up scottie]

44. Let's start another thread so people can compare Bernie's missed votes to Hillary's!

How's that working out for ya?

[kath]

46. Yes, let's! In the meantime:

[beam me up scottie]

47. This is just like George's "Bankster Bernie" op.

Once he realizes it's a big fat fail he abandons his thread.

Too funny!

[SwampG8r]

48. More likely

He drops a turd made of lies and then runs off to hrcsupporters.com to rally the swarm and target the juries for maximum hides
How proud he must make mirt

[beam me up scottie]

49. And then there's that.

Last edited Fri Dec 4, 2015, 11:25 PM - Edit history (1)

They must have been busy last night, no less than 5 failed alerts on my posts.

[ESKD]

68. My son calls that Hello Cthulhu

Kittybat.

[beam me up scottie]

72. Hello Cthulhu has been with me for years!

How does your son know her? I haven't seen that cartoon in years!

[ESKD]

75. He saw the image at the signature, pointed at it and said Kittybat!

[beam me up scottie]

76. That is absolutely adorable. :)

[NurseJackie]

50. Clearly, Bernie isn't taking this campaigning thing very seriously.

Does he even want to win?

[Vattel]

110. Most people aren't stupid enough to take this seriously.

So it won't hurt his campaign.

[jfern]

51. How dare Bernie miss 5% of his votes?

[Douglas Carpenter]

54. thanks for posting - but the silence is deafening while the crickets get louder and louder

deaf·en·ing

ˈdef(ə niNG/
adjective
(of a noise) so loud as to make it impossible to hear anything else.
"the music reached a deafening crescendo"
synonyms: very loud, very noisy, overloud, ear-splitting, overwhelming, almighty, mighty, tremendous; More

https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=google&oq=goo&aqs=chrome.1.69i60j0j69i60l4.4397j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=0&ie=UTF-8#q=deafening+meaning

[VanillaRhapsody]

71. It IS Friday night dude....some people have lives outside of DU

I am currently out of town at a relatives funeral thanks...

[Douglas Carpenter]

78. and I am a patient in a Cancer Center - beat that

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026558920

although since I posted that it was "upgraded" to stage 3-4

Sorry to hear about your relative.

[VanillaRhapsody]

79. Did I make accusations about your participation?

[VanillaRhapsody]

64. Did those votes include Planned Parenthood and Obamacares?

Bad optics
...its not about how many....its abou the isdues...ond you know that

[Douglas Carpenter]

74. it appears facts just bounce off some people

[VanillaRhapsody]

80. What facts?

Its not about quantity.....its about THESE issues....you can post that 10 million times....it doesnt change the fact that he bagged on Planned Parenthood and the greatest Democratic achievement in decades....

By the way...where is the link to your source?

And this is the Primary not the General by the way...

[Douglas Carpenter]

81. here

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/presidential-candidates

Most people would find it implausible that the 83.5% missed voting record by Sen. Clinton were all votes on issues less important than the 5% missed voting by Sen. Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

85. Your graph is not there

[VanillaRhapsody]

86. I see 18% and 1%

At your link....not 83%.....so I am calling bullshit

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. So yeah....implausable...

[RandySF]

77. K&R

[Gloria]

83. So, he comes out of hernia surgery and dramatically states

"healthcare for all" or something but doesn't vote on this?? As crappy as the ACA is, it's the only game in town for
many people....and esp. for those in "normal states" where the Medicaid expansion has helped a lot of people.

He is a real player, folks, a life long politician....bamboozling a lot of people...

[BlueCaliDem]

118. For a candidate who's been running on health care reform and women's rights (or has he?)

he sure doesn't give a damn about a bill that the Republicans pushed to want to repeal key parts of the ACA and defund Planned Parenthood.

Good going there, Sanders.

[riversedge]

120. To say the least, it was an important vote to miss--and I

realize that other candidates have missed votes--but the optics are not good for Sanders on this missing a vote to catch a catch a campaign flight.

[BlueCaliDem]

121. Even if it was just to secure his credibility on health care and women's reproductive rights,

the very issues he's campaigning on, this was an important vote for him to stick around for and vote against.

I am deeply disappointed that he hadn't. It's the same blunder that he made when he embarrassed his African American outreach manager when he wrote an apology letter to #BlackLivesMatter and Sanders immediately dismissed it saying he doesn't apologize, and that the letter was sent without his knowledge or permission.

I mean, talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

[riversedge]

123. Agree wholeheartly--it was a poor judgement call on Sanders part...

In solidarity

[Gothmog]

122. That is sad

[randome]

124. Politicians will behave like politicians. Clinton and Sanders, both.

No big deal.
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