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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 07:38 PM Sep 2012

Romney's and Ryan's LAUGHABLE alleged 'Harvard and Princeton' support for their 'tax plan'

On Meet the Press this morning, Mitt Romney confidently tried to parry David Gregory's questions about tax arithmetic with references to, "my goodness, Princeton and Harvard". Paul Ryan echoed these sentiments on This Week with George Stephanoupoulos.

What were they talking about? I've seen the Romney-Ryan economic "white papers", and IMO they fail to answer the "arithmentic" questions Bill Clinton asked in Charlotte.

"Harvard" is an embarrassment of a big-payday fluff 'white paper' by one radical-right extremist (John Taylor of Stanford), two right-wing textbook authors (Greg Mankiw of Harvard, and Glen Hubbard of Columbia), and one longstanding rightwing hack from AEI (Kevin Hassett). Instead of "Harvard" and "AEI", Romney-Ryan could have said, "Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, and AEI". But the Stanford economist was the one of the four Romney advisers who embarrassed himself the most: Ezra Klein of the Washington Post observed that of fourteen relevant economic studies that have examined the impact of President Obama's American Recovery Act, ONLY John Taylor's found no effect (see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021097643 ). But Romney's economists ignored the 13 positive studies and cited only Taylor's. It is a SCANDAL that in the Romney 'white paper', Taylor simply cited himself and ignored all the other relevant studies, all of which disagree with him strongly!

And "Princeton" (see below for my first impressions) is a piece of fluff just churned out by another rightwing textbook author, Harvey Rosen (see http://www.princeton.edu/ceps/workingpapers/228rosen.pdf ). This is a very thin, back-of-the-envelope calculation with ONE spreadsheet table intended to refute a major quantitative study of the Romney tax plan by serious tax scholars (See http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/template.cfm?PubID=1001631 ).

I find Romney's attempted misuse of academicians for hire pretty shocking.

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

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Rosen claims, "I analyze the Romney proposal taking into account the additional income that might be generated by economic growth. The main conclusion is that under plausible assumptions, a proposal along the lines suggested by Governor Romney can both be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on high-income individuals about the same. That is, an increase in the tax burden on lower and middle income individuals is not required in order to make the overall plan revenue neutral." He makes projections from the summary table of the latest availabe IRS Statistics of Income (for 2009)

Any competent first-year economics graduate student would shoot him down on several underlying assumptions:

1. Rosen vastly overstates the revenues from loophole closing on top income earners. He assumes that legislation would be written to remove ALL Schedule B deductions for high earners, ignoring the income shifting and income hiding that such legislation would generate. Practical legislation would preferably remove all of certain classes of deductions for all taxpayers, regardless of income, in order to minimize income shifting and income hiding in response to the "tax reform".

2. However, Rosen has the nerve to assume a minimum of 3 percent extra wage and capital income for top-rate taxpayers as "dynamic macroeconomic effects" of Romney's plan. Such "dynamic scoring" is a longstanding no-no in tax policy analysis. It is fantasyland, and IMO should be ignored completely. Fortunately, Rosen's table allows that fantastical "dynamic scoring" to be ignored.

3. Rosen chooses to define high incomes as greater than $100,000 or greater than $200,000. But the policy-relevant threshold Washington is debating for high incomes is $250,000.

Either Rosen was too lazy to look at disaggregated IRS data or he tried $250,000 and it did not work as well. Even a $200,000 threshold leaves him $75 billion a year short of revenue-neutrality. That's $75 billion to be recouped from repealing tas deductions for middle-class mortgage interest, charitable donations, state and local tax payments, and other Schedule B deductions for those short of the top rate.

If this apparent first-draft by Harvey Rosen stands as it is, with no revisions, IMO it is a major academic scandal. IMO Rosen should be ASHAMED for having put this out there for national scrutiny 58 days before a crucial election.

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Romney's and Ryan's LAUGHABLE alleged 'Harvard and Princeton' support for their 'tax plan' (Original Post) ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2012 OP
This is an excellent post underpants Sep 2012 #1
Found it on Reddit. You are going places. applegrove Sep 2012 #2
Thanks for the info november3rd Sep 2012 #3
Will these economists suffer any professional consequences for their actions? Jim Lane Sep 2012 #4
John Taylor may have nixed a possible future Nobel Prize in Economics ProgressiveEconomist Sep 2012 #6
Romney is an expert at re-writing facts and presents half truths. Sheepshank Sep 2012 #5

underpants

(182,826 posts)
1. This is an excellent post
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

I have read the disrobing of Mnakiw before (forgot where) but this was very well stated.

Thank you for this. Rec'd and bookmarked.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
3. Thanks for the info
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:15 AM
Sep 2012

Great post!

Yeah. Obama's a working class guy, and Ryan and Romney come from millionaire families.

Guess who the people believe.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
4. Will these economists suffer any professional consequences for their actions?
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:02 AM
Sep 2012

I'm not even sure their reputations will be injured. I could picture a bunch of people shrugging their shoulders and saying, "Yeah, Rosen and the others turned out rubbish, but it wasn't intended as serious academic work. We know they were just whoring and that they really know better. So we won't hold this against them."

Is that the way it goes, or will there be at least some blowback within the field?

ETA: Forgot to thank you for this very lucid explanation.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
6. John Taylor may have nixed a possible future Nobel Prize in Economics
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:28 PM
Sep 2012

with this high-profile screwup and a couple of recent right-wing books (see his bio at http://www.hoover.org/fellows/10298/short-bio ).

He had been highly respected for mainly theoretical work years ago on perfectly predictable rules for monetary policy. Taylor's disdain for fiscal policy and active monetary policy may have arisen from gradually coming to believe his own BS! IMO the US economic establishment will tolerate his recent right-wing extremism, but the Swedes and the rest of the economic world will not.

Most of the rest of Romneys crew of economists are set for life as influential authors of popular textbooks. They are quite literally the arbiters of what economics "is" for the vast majority of the profession. You can trace most authors of leading textbooks in economics back to their mentors. The current generation usually were favorite students of authors of textbooks used by previous generations. Such authors take their favorite students on as co-authors, and, when they have retired, the students take over the work. The "discipline" thus rolls on indefinitely with minimal changes in what is considered "correct" in economics.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. Romney is an expert at re-writing facts and presents half truths.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:15 AM
Sep 2012

I don't think there is a Lib out there who will take ANYTHING he says at face value any more.

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