2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders: "I Am Getting a REALLY GOOD FEELING About Iowa"
This Bernie speech is well worth a watch!!.....its 58 minutes long but worth it.....
During a recent three-day swing through Iowa, Bernie Sanders took the stage before 1,800 supporters in Council Bluffs, Iowa, and declared that he believes he can win Iowa and New Hampshire, creating a path to victory.
The media will not tell you this, but recent polling shows a path to victory for Bernie as well. If you watch the pundits you will hear them say Sanders will run into a wall after New Hampshire. They continue to say he is not connecting with non-white voters. They must not be looking at their own polls. A new CNN survey shows that Bernie has demonstrated growing support among what the pollster refers to as non-white voters. In a survey last April, he had only 1 percent of voters in that category. As he has made a concerted effort to reach out to African-Americans and Latinos, Sanders' support has grown to an impressive 32 percent in the most recent poll.
The poll also has Bernie gaining on Hillary Clinton among all voters nationally. Clinton has dropped 8 points to 50% and Sanders has risen 4 points to 34%. President Obama was down 28 points nationally 8 years ago. So Bernie has reason to feel good about Iowa. He should also be feeling good about his chances to win the nomination. Momentum is on his side even though the corporate media won't admit it yet.
In the latest CBS poll of Iowa, Sanders was within 5 points of Clinton. Bernie has double digit leads in most polls of New Hampshire. He is right about what wins in both states would mean. It would shatter the belief among many that he can't win. Obama didn't start polling well nationally until he won Iowa.
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http://www.opednews.com/articles/Bernie-Sanders--I-Am-Gett-by-Scott-Galindez-Bernie-Sanders_Bernie-Sanders-Presidential-Campaign_Iowa-Caucus_Polls-151226-947.html
Uncle Joe
(64,111 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)The polling shows Hillary holding a commanding stable lead in Iowa..

reddread
(6,896 posts)only one line is going up
If you see an upward trend for Bernie then you are indeed have better eyes than I do!
treestar
(82,383 posts)or so we've been told repeatedly. Them damn corporate polls!
joshcryer
(62,534 posts)There are a good number of non mud flinging supporters here. I predict Sanders closes that gap and makes gains. He has a shitload of cash on hand.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)See the page 6 of latest (Dec 13-17) SC CBS/YOuGov poll.. Bernie only gets 19% of the black vote.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/xigw9y8qro/SC_ForRelease_20151220.pdf
He has made almost no progress after months of campaigning there.
Vinca
(53,262 posts)they did for President Obama? I don't. I don't see Hillary creating enough excitement among people of any ethnic background who aren't already committed voters who show up come hell or high water at every election. That's what we'll need whether it's Hillary or Bernie. If we have a turnout like a mid-term election, we're toast. When it comes to Hillary, there is a huge motivating factor on the right. They despise her . . . possibly more so than Obama. Republicans will have a good turnout if Hillary is the nominee. She can win, of course, but it's not going to be a cake walk by any means and it won't be a surprise if she loses.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why would they be more willing to vote for Obama? Are you claiming they cared more because he was black?
Vinca
(53,262 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)it is more a charge made by Sanderites.
There will be too much at stake for any decent Democrat to stay at home on election day.
Vinca
(53,262 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)She is like an incumbent candidate given her extensive background and experience in politics. Incumbents don't usually generate alot excitement early on like an insurgent candidate would like Sanders or Trump. But once we get closer to election day things will get much more interesting.
Vinca
(53,262 posts)If we end up with a Republican POTUS, House and Senate we're screwed.
Even if she wins the nomination, I am not enthused over her. I will vote, but I will vote for my congressman who is literally up Hillary's ass anyway.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)but I suspect most normal Democrats who are paying attention will be.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Vinca
(53,262 posts)I'm rather surprised at the lack of interest they reportedly have in him. Maybe they prefer a lower than $15 minimum wage or love paying for college for the rest of their lives or prefer the insurance company model for paying for health care - their choice I guess.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Nedsdag
(2,437 posts)I still haven't forgiven the Clintons for 2008. I know you have, but I haven't.