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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:21 PM Dec 2015

If HRC's supporters are so SURE Bernie can't win, why are they so obsessed with forcing him out NOW?

Shouldn't they just be chilling out and letting things happen in their own good time?

What's the harm in actually letting Democratic voters have a real choice all over the country?

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If HRC's supporters are so SURE Bernie can't win, why are they so obsessed with forcing him out NOW? (Original Post) Ken Burch Dec 2015 OP
There is no purpose to crushing him. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #1
Exactly. Thank you. (nt) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #19
+ 1000. Give as good as one gets; Turnabout is fair play; do unto others as they do unto you. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #29
The old "we're no better than you" ploy? Vinca Dec 2015 #33
To be fair last time it did not end they way that they thought it would awake Dec 2015 #2
And again. two voters to every one of Sanders. I see no one sitting on edge. Pure projection. seabeyond Dec 2015 #4
Who is forcing him out now? Cinton supporters are confident in the states, a few to Sanders. seabeyond Dec 2015 #3
Nobody is obsessed upaloopa Dec 2015 #5
Super Tuesday doesn't end anything. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #7
LOL ... You're funny. eom 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2015 #9
Are you suggesting that Ken doesn't speak for the AA community? comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #11
As Ken Burch goes, so goes the AA community Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #14
:-D !!! NurseJackie Dec 2015 #20
I'm just noting that the polls show Bernie's POC support is now at 32% and rising. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #23
I really did just spit-take some wine, lol. Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #25
I didn't claim to speak for the AA community. And I never would. Ken Burch Dec 2015 #22
Then why the vitriol? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #30
Who the fuck is trying to force him out? MeNMyVolt Dec 2015 #6
This is the perfect example of a straw man argument. comradebillyboy Dec 2015 #12
Exactly what I was wondering Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2015 #16
Calm down, Ken, nobody's trying to force Bernie out now. Nitram Dec 2015 #8
Who's rushing things? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #10
whistling past the graveyard Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #13
hahaha rbrnmw Dec 2015 #15
There is no harm and that is what will happen. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #17
No need to get your undies in a bunch, ..... Lil Missy Dec 2015 #18
It's a campaign tactic Aerows Dec 2015 #21
I appreciate that Hillary is not taking anything for granted. Sheepshank Dec 2015 #24
Who is forcing him out? Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #26
And why can't they just play fair? Why the ridiculous, unethical attacks? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #27
And look--you drew all the desperados to this thread. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #28
Exactamundo Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #31
I am happy to wait until Super Tuesday Gothmog Dec 2015 #32
Name a Clinton supporter who says Sanders should drop out. brooklynite Dec 2015 #34
No one is forcing anyone out. Beacool Dec 2015 #35
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. There is no purpose to crushing him.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

Treating his supporters identical to the way they treat Hillary supporters, on the other hand, is pretty much what any discussions in the primary season are all about.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. + 1000. Give as good as one gets; Turnabout is fair play; do unto others as they do unto you.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 02:03 AM
Dec 2015

Something like that.

Vinca

(50,300 posts)
33. The old "we're no better than you" ploy?
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015

I'm obviously a Bernie supporter, but I've tried to temper my complaints about Hillary since I may have to vote for her in the general. I very much resent the implication that all Bernie supporters are horrible demons who must constantly be countered by saying things that are twice as bad and twice as untrue as whatever was said about Hillary that got their goat in the first place. This place is starting to sound like recess on the playground. If Hillary is the nominee, Hillary "supporters" will have contributed to any loss by alienating people not usually interested in politics who are now Bernie supporters. Dump on them now and you won't see them in November.

awake

(3,226 posts)
2. To be fair last time it did not end they way that they thought it would
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:26 PM
Dec 2015

So this time if they seem a bit on edge I understand why lets not judge the candidate by the acts of their supporters

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. And again. two voters to every one of Sanders. I see no one sitting on edge. Pure projection.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
Dec 2015

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
5. Nobody is obsessed
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:29 PM
Dec 2015

We are waiting till March and Super Tuesday when Bernie is unable to get enough delegates

The champagne is chilling

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. Super Tuesday doesn't end anything.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:36 PM
Dec 2015

And HRC's lead in POC voters is declining, as they realize she hasn't earned their support.

comradebillyboy

(10,174 posts)
11. Are you suggesting that Ken doesn't speak for the AA community?
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:24 PM
Dec 2015

Or POC in general? If he doesn't know, who does?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
23. I'm just noting that the polls show Bernie's POC support is now at 32% and rising.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:32 AM
Dec 2015

I'm not claiming to speak FOR anybody.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. I didn't claim to speak for the AA community. And I never would.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:30 AM
Dec 2015

The polls do show that HRC's lead among AA's is slipping, though. And Bernie is getting more and more AA endorsements.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,426 posts)
16. Exactly what I was wondering
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:32 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not glued to DU or the news 24-7-365 but this is the first I've heard of it. The primaries haven't even started, which would make any such effort- if it even exists- pretty idiotic. On a related note, I have seen many BS supporters seem certain beyond a doubt that HRC will doom our chances to win the WH next year when arguing for voting for Bernie.

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
8. Calm down, Ken, nobody's trying to force Bernie out now.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

There's a primary process. Let it run it's course.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. There is no harm and that is what will happen.
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:41 PM
Dec 2015

The only post I have seen asking anyone to drop out was a recent one by a Sanders supporter with respect to O'Malley.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
18. No need to get your undies in a bunch, .....
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 09:49 PM
Dec 2015

Nobody in the Hillary camp cares when sanders drops out. You are blowing things out of proportion

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. It's a campaign tactic
Tue Dec 29, 2015, 10:34 PM
Dec 2015

demoralize your foe and continually pound a message that you are the only person that can win.

And oh boy, when that strategy fails, be on the look out for some gutter sniping.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
24. I appreciate that Hillary is not taking anything for granted.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 12:42 AM
Dec 2015

She is not resting on any laurels, she is not slacking off. She is working and pushing hard. There is no reason for me to view this candidacy or the campaign any differently.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
35. No one is forcing anyone out.
Wed Dec 30, 2015, 01:18 PM
Dec 2015

Sanders will be in the running until he chooses not to be. Who's obsessed? The ones posting hyperbolic OPs are not usually Clinton supporters.





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