2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMartin O'Malley mans the Iowa phones beside staffers and volunteers
Iowa Starting Line @IAStartingLine 2h2 hours ago@MartinOMalley does some calls next to staffers and volunteers #IACaucus
Hope Johnson @momimbored 1h1 hour ago Des Moines, IA
I'm just here making some calls with my favorite presidential candidate @MartinOMalley #NewLeadership #IACaucus
Iowa Starting Line @IAStartingLine 1h1 hour ago
@MartinOMalley calling through some of his good volunteers #IACaucus
Kristin Sosanie @ksosanie 2h2 hours ago
@MartinOMalley joins the @omalleyforia Sunday night phonebank to make some calls to #iacaucus goers.
Iowa Starting Line @IAStartingLine 2h2 hours ago
@MartinOMalley chats with local reporters, but my eyes are on the pizza (he brought w/him) #IACaucus
elleng
(130,906 posts)but my eyes are on the pizza (he brought w/him) #IACaucus
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)I want to like him, but I'm reminded of the bad things he did in Maryland such as the rain tax.
I live in Maryland, and like him a lot.
As to the so-called 'rain tax,' learn something:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/10/bogus-conservative-media-talking-point-martin-o/203935
But referring to the 2012 legislation in question as a tax on rain is misleading. The Post wrote in an editorial that the "rain tax" is "a good applause line" but "a tougher sell on the merits":
The "rain tax" is, in fact, a federally mandated levy on pollution caused by storm water run-off, one of the main culprits in the tragic, decades-long environmental degradation of the Chesapeake Bay. Established by state legislation passed in 2012, the tax applies to the state's 10 most heavily populated urban and suburban jurisdictions, places with an abundance of hard surfaces -- parking lots, roads, driveways. In those built-up places, storm water carrying sediment, nutrients, trash and a variety of other pollutants washes into nearby streams and rivers, which drain into the bay. Revenues from the tax are meant to help localities adopt programs and build infrastructure to limit the damage from that runoff in order to protect the body of water.
The Baltimore Sun wrote in a June 2014 editorial that "rain tax" claims are "nonsense" since "Maryland does not tax the rain. It has directed its 10 most populous jurisdictions to raise revenue to pay for stormwater management upgrades that will prevent pollution from choking the Chesapeake Bay, per federal environmental regulations." Washington Post reporter Jenna Johnson wrote in a fact check article that "it's more of a pollution tax than a rain tax."
The nonprofit Chesapeake Bay Foundation called the "rain tax" moniker "blatantly false," stating: "The truth is that we are talking about a fee to reduce pollution from water that washes off hard surfaces and empties into local waterways. Runoff pollution is real--it is responsible for no-swimming advisories and beach closures in local waters, fish consumption advisories, and dead zones in the Bay that can't support aquatic life. It also causes localized flooding and property damage. And in many areas, it is the largest source of pollution."
The misleading "rain tax" talking point has repeatedly been used by Maryland Republicans, especially during Larry Hogan's successful run for Maryland governor. In May, Hogan signed SB 863, the "Rain Tax Mandate Repeal (Watershed Protection and Restoration Programs, Revision), which repeals the requirement that forces local jurisdictions to collect a stormwater remediation fee, and instead authorizes such jurisdictions to do so." The Sun reported that "environmentalists worked to get the proposal from an outright repeal of stormwater fees to the version that passed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/fact-check-did-maryland-lt-gov-anthony-g-brown-really-tax-the-rain/2014/09/07/4e587672-36bd-11e4-9c9f-ebb47272e40e_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/md-gop-attacks-on-the-rain-tax-ignore-the-risk-of-runoff-pollution-to-the-chesapeake/2014/08/11/de1a45ba-215f-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-06-26/news/bs-ed-hogan-brown-ad-20140626_1_republican-larry-hogan-ad-tax-hikes
http://www.cbf.org/about-cbf/offices-operations/annapolis-md/the-issues/annapolis-maryland/the-issues/stormwater-fee#rain-tax
The Rain Tax is actually a TAX ON POLLUTION.
metroins
(2,550 posts)I have a home in MD, do you know how much I pay for the Chesapeake Bay in taxes? I don't, but I bet it's a lot. There's separate taxes specifically for the Bay.
The money gets wasted. How about we use the money we've already collected.
As soon as Omalley got in there he just started taxing things, when MD was not in a huge budget crisis. The sales and gas tax hurts the poor.
Where'd the 15 billion we collected go? They've been saying for years that the Bay is failing...so they just keep taxing.
http://www.capitalgazette.com/cg-following-the-money-spent-on-chesapeake-bay-an-elusive-pursuit-20140730-story.html
Omalley increased sales and income taxes, the rain tax.
I'm not a Republican, and I would never use this site as a legit source, but it is legit:
https://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-martin-o-malley-tax-hikes
We were fine before Omalley...I don't like Hogan but I did like Ehrlich.
elleng
(130,906 posts)http://www.cbf.org/how-we-save-the-bay
Ehrlich:
In 2004, Ehrlich signed the Chesapeake Bay Restoration Act: it funds upgrades of water treatment plants to reduce pollution discharge by a surcharge on business and residential water and septic bills. The resulting reduction in pollution into the bay was expected to meet approximately one-third of Maryland's obligations under the 2000 Chesapeake Bay Agreement. The Chesapeake Bay Foundation described the Chesapeake Bay Restoration Act as the most significant piece of legislation for the Bay in a generation.[8]
In 2003, Ehrlich abandoned the "life means life" policy of his predecessor that precluded persons serving life sentences from eligibility for executive clemency. Ehrlich promised to evaluate each request for clemency on a case-by-case basis. He was nationally recognized for his progressive approach that helped free wrongly convicted defendants.[citation needed]
In 2004, Ehrlich ended the moratorium on executions that was instituted by his predecessor in May 2002. (See capital punishment in Maryland.) Under his tenure, two men were executed by the state; Ehrlich denied clemency in both instances.
n January 2006, Ehrlich vetoed the "Fair Share Health Care Bill," also known as the WalMart Bill,[11][12] which required businesses with more than 10,000 employees in the state (three of the four companies being WalMart, Northrop Grumman, and Giant) to either spend eight percent of payroll on employee health care, or pay that amount to a state health program for the uninsured.[11][13] The bill was named after WalMart because it was the only company in Maryland of that size that did not already provide affordable health insurance to its employees. The Maryland Legislature passed the bill over Ehrlich's veto.
Critics of the international discount chain claimed that Wal-Mart's low wages force employees and their dependents to rely on state healthcare assistance. (See Wal-Mart Employee and Labor Relations). The bill's supporters claimed that the veto showed Ehrlich, whose official biography describes him as "unapologetically pro-business," had sided with "big corporate interests rather than Maryland's working families."[11] For his part, Ehrlich called the bill the "first step toward government-run health care" by "anti-jobs lawmakers." He claimed that it would hurt low and middle-income consumers and was unfair to Wal-Mart and other businesses.[14] On July 7, 2006, the Maryland law was overturned in federal court by U.S. District Judge Frederick Motz, who ruled that the law would "hurt Wal-Mart by imposing the administrative burden of tracking benefits in Maryland differently than in other states."[15][16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Ehrlich
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...when he's debating the republican nominee, I'm sure he'll be confronted with all of that and knock it right down. It's right out of the Maryland republican playbook.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)daybranch
(1,309 posts)Martin and his campaign blew it when he did not get on Ohio's ballot. He had very little chance of getting the nomination before based on his low numbers. Now he should recognize the impossibility of the task, tell his workers the truth and tell his workers to work for any other candidate they favor. Right now Martin is just eating up air and debate time which favors Hillary. He complained earlier and rightly so that he was not getting enough time in the debates. Well Bernie was not either and Martin needs to recognize his longer term impact which is to help Hillary.
The O Malley campaign is really no more, despite high sounding signs and flurries of activity.Send these hard working volunteers wherever they want to go and come back to fight another day. This day is done.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...plenty of leading campaigns have been successful with write-ins after failing to qualify for the ballot.
People who say the O'Malley campaign is done haven't been paying attention, or are engaging in wishful thinking.
Do know the meaning of 'volunteer'? They are in this as long as the candidate is still fighting.
What a joke of an argument to say he's helping Hillary and he should just step aside, I suppose, to give Sanders a boost. O'Malley isn't in this race to become Sander's wingman. Many of O'Malley's votes would be Hillary votes, but I'm guessing you think brilliant entreaties like yours will have them racing into Bernie's camp.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)All the web clicks in the world don't have real impact on the registration process.