2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Should Have Chosen a Different Day for His Wall St. Speech
Today's news coverage is going to be dominated by coverage of President Obama's speech. Bernie is going to struggle to break through, and we'll be on to the next news cycle.
His supporters might claim that it's bias against him, I think it reflects a lack of media savvy by his campaign.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)- The Oregon standoff
- Saudi Arabia/Iran tensions.
Bernie's campaign isn't media savvy at all.
They appear to be somewhat clueless.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)as a national candidate. You'd better be a skilled politician and have a great campaign team to overcome the "Democratic Socialist" label. Sanders hasn't shown he's up to the task.
And "We need to be more like Scandinavia" ain't gonna cut it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)How did you predict days in advance the Oregon standoff and the new tensions in the Middle East?!
Gothmog
(145,225 posts)Sanders had plenty of time to adjust the scheduling of his speech. Sanders speech on socialism was also scheduled at a time to almost guarantee that the media would not cover that speech. The Sanders campaign is really weak on the scheduling concept and understanding when is the best time to get medial coverage
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Also having Hill on Hardball tonight to talk about her wall street plan, after uttering not a word throughout her campaign, unlike Bernie, it IS his platform. HE should be on Hardball, discussing his speech and wall street reforms.
Again, refer to the subject line.......
TM99
(8,352 posts)Sanders announced his speech over the weekend of the 2nd in NH. Obama announced his on the 3rd. Perhaps Obama should have waited?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)yammered on that he wasn't presidential for changing his Wall Street speech.
I saw this a few months back when he waited to give his speech on Democratic Socialism.
With y'all the memes are in - it is never good enough Bernie.
So fuck that noise.
We are adults. I think we can handle both a Wall Street reform speech AND gun control executive orders on the same day. After all, this is the real world and presidents have to live in the real world.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)This is apparently a major speech for his campaign, he should at least try to make in the top political news item of the day. Of course, he can't predict what the day will bring, but this was easily avoidable.
TM99
(8,352 posts)He announced it before Obama announced his on the same day.
Had he then rescheduled it, beyond logistics, it would have looked odd.
No, he is doing the right thing. He supports Obama's orders and has said so over this past few campaign stops. He is going to give a kick ass speech giving details that many have asked for.
I don't give a shit what DU'ers say. It doesn't mean it doesn't get tiresome here all the same bullshit lies, distortions, and yammerings.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Even if it would have "looked odd," that would have been preferable to giving a major policy speech that goes completely ignored.
Unless, of course, you don't mind if it's ignored, so you can raise money from crying about the biased media.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Class dunce is not acceptable.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Yes...the President of the United States should first check with the almighty Bernie Sanders before doing anything.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Neither should have waited. We can handle discussions on both topics. Can't we?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)care to wager the over/under on complaints that the media blacked-out coverage of Bernie's speech in favor of the other events?
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I'm so fed up with how RIDICULOUS nonsense gets repeated and accepted as TRUTH!
I could go on and on but I already KNOW what those on the other side will say and do! Can't even get his speech from his page because apparently too many people are trying to log on to listen to him!
CORPORATE MEDIA has made up it's mind, it's the Repukes OR it's Hillary Clinton!
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Bernie needs to be more aggressive and clever than this. The big banks will put up Super PACs to destroy him if he makes it to the GE, they don't take threats lightly.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Have you thought about how many mountains he has to climb? Bad enough for us here to keep his message and his nomination front and center! We're but a small, minuscule dot compared to Wall Street & Corporate Media!
Can you find ONE MSM outlet that's covering his speech at all? I can't!
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Bernie should be taking advantage of social media in unprecedented ways if he wants to win. Of course though, he's no social media genius, but he should have one. In fact, Bernie should have at least a few geniuses on his side if he wants to win. You don't even begin to play chess with the oligarchs unless you have strategic geniuses that can outsmart them. If he has any, I haven't seen any signs of it yet.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)If so you're not paying attention.
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)I.e. NEVER have been done before. I'm talking like Silicon Valley genius level.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I give you post number 5 by uberanalyst DSB
"It will get plenty of play on the all important social media./nt"
fredamae
(4,458 posts)for HRC who Also Promised she'll reform? They Won't put up big money against HRC? Why is that?
Bernie won't have to face this onslaught alone. Neither should HRC. We are the ones the 1% hates. No POTUS/Senator etc can go it alone. Hillary herself has not proved that either, imo. If I'm wrong-please link me to a credible source that shows it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You also invoke the names of others as often as possible. He is probably hoping to get a simple mention from others here and there. Do you remember his game changing speech on socialism. Yeah, neither does anyone else.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I'm sure he'll take it under advisement
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Response to firebrand80 (Original post)
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Armstead
(47,803 posts)Either they're scheduled or unscheduled.
And if he delivers on a slow news day, the networks will still concentrate on the latest Trump Clinton dustup.
The Sanders campaign has already worked a miracle, just getting this far against the monolithic power of the Media Industrial Political Complex.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)But this is something that was very easily avoidable
Armstead
(47,803 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)and that would be the case no matter when the speech was given.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)When this venue was booked VS The announcement of date/time for Obamas speech?
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)He could have either canceled this event or shown up and given his standard stump speech. It happens all the time.
I'm sure he has plenty of upcoming speaking engagements scheduled that could have been used to give this speech.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)anyway.
madokie
(51,076 posts)you can't make this shit up, too funny
Jeeze
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)from anyone who imagines that Third Way is "fresh thinking".
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)gives a damn what I think
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Saturday nights? Pre Holiday weeks? Sports events?
Maybe you should offer them your sage advice.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)and I'm not offering advice to anybody, unless they pay for it.
Which they won't.
senz
(11,945 posts)Bernie never expected the MSM to air this major speech.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)And if he just wanted to throw is speech into the online echo chamber, that's a pretty bad strategy
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)He didn't know...