2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA message to Hillary supporters: Wall Street and corporations believe that Hillary has their backs
And Hillary supporters really can't handle that fact.
Wall Streeters believe that Hillary will protect their interests.
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But heres the strange thing: Down on Wall Street they dont believe it for a minute. While the finance industry does genuinely hate Warren, the big bankers love Clinton, and by and large they badly want her to be president. Many of the rich and powerful in the financial industryamong them, Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman, Tom Nides, a powerful vice chairman at Morgan Stanley, and the heads of JPMorganChase and Bank of Americaconsider Clinton a pragmatic problem-solver not prone to populist rhetoric. To them, shes someone who gets the idea that we all benefit if Wall Street and American business thrive. What about her forays into fiery rhetoric? They dismiss it quickly as political maneuvers. None of them think she really means her populism.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/why-wall-street-loves-hillary-112782#ixzz3wUIHc8mc
Scuba
(53,475 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)consider her a friend. And friends take care of friends in politics.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)for________ at the agreed upon price of $_________?
This is not rocket science...even for the Peasant Class. I refuse to call it the Middle Class because it does not exist. And I call the 1% Oligarchs...because if the shoe fits...etc. One cannot have one without the other.
I believe this is Gold Sacks CEO Lloyd Blankfein.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)what Sanders nonsene
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)then what you actually know or have been a witness: If you don't
have facts.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)but seems like a good place to post hillary's donor list
CLINTON TOP CAMPAIGN DONORS
Citigroup Inc----------$824,402
Goldman Sachs-------$760,740
DLA Piper ------------$700,530
JPMorgan Chase------$696,456
Morgan Stanley-------$636,564
EMILY's List----------- $609,684
Time Warner-----------$501,831
Skadden, Arps---------$469,290
University of CA-------$417,327
Sullivan & Cromwell---$369,150
Akin, Gump et al---- $364,478
Lehman Brothers---- $362,853
21st Century Fox---- $340,936
Cablevision Systems--$336,613
Kirkland & Ellis--------$329,141
Natnl Amusements---$328,312
Squire Patton Boggs--$328,306
Greenberg Traurig-----$327,890
Corning Inc------------$322,450
Credit Suisse Group---$318,120
Credit: Center for Responsive Politics
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lewebley3
(3,412 posts)would have tried it.
Just plain fucking WOW....
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Has no idea of much of anything that exists in the real world, maybe when he gets out of puberty he will wake up
mean time his circle of willis is pretty much packed with feces
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)that is what GOP people are limited to;
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)supports ending public schools and giving the cash to charter schools
takes millions from the big banks and wallstreet
cut
it
out
!!!!!!!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)They, run like Hillary does as a Dem, working out problems
together as team with the Dem party values.
Single issues divide the party and that is only way the Dem's
can lose is if they are divided.
Hillary has more than proved she is a loyal Dem: she
will sign anything the Dem's can get the votes for to
help improve American lives.
I practical politician is much nice than an ideologue: they
can get things done like Hillary: not just talk: Sanders has done
nothing but talk.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)lord knows there are many more like her support of the private for profit prison industry
or her support for insurance companies rather than supporting healthcare for all americans
but i do appreciate the bumps!!!
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)Thanks for the thread, cali.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I can understand Hillary supporters believe that she is a better candidate and more likely to win, or that she is better or at least equivalent on social issues. I find it very hard to believe that any of her supporters believe that she will do much of anything about Wall Street.
Bryant
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)protecting their own interests.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)live in the real world: Sanders people are the only Sainted people in
politics.
They forget Sanders has been protecting his interest by protecting
the gun lobby for years, because they were paying Sanders bills.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Sanders,supporters,are motivated by self interest. They believe his reforms will make their lives better..along with everyone else"s.....
(Maybe not the wealthy, but they'll continue to be fine too. They might have to learn to live on a mere $10 million a year instead of $15 million...Or a paltry $100 million instead of $200 million...Or in the case of the robber barons like the Waltons have to split $80 billion instead of $150 billion)
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)just Sanders people. You post is a moot point
eridani
(51,907 posts)lewebley3
(3,412 posts)that have been paying his bills: Just like
any other politician.
Sanders is not sainted when is comes to being
a politician: he just comes from a small state
were are fewer lobby interest: and given
that their only 600,000 people in the whole state
that makes sense.
He could have been elected in New York where
millions of interest come together across the
nation.
Hillary did a good job reping for most of New Yorkers
best interest.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)which backs up cali's op
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Obama because I thought HRC was the worse choice.
Obama wants to pass TPP.
How much worse could it be?
Vote for HRC and see.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Pretty pathetic there, I kept reading your BS for the amusement factor but has gotten beyond amusing and has become pathetic and asinine.... off to the ignore list with ya
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)I've never had any doubt whatsoever that Hillary would have been much much worse. I'm even more convinced of that now!
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)I see.
The 'No True Scotsman' fallacy is your fallback when all else fails.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)If you use Hill-ary as the base line then we may not be 'true" Dems based on their model, from my viewpoint the are actually using a Dino for the model, at best as far right as you can get and still pretend to be a dem.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)And it seems that in the last 5 or 6 years DU has attracted a lot of that ilk.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Well then, Sunny Boy Slim, this yellow dog Democrat, who has never pulled the lever for a Republican isn't a "Real Democrat" to you.
Interesting.
Or are you only here to stir things up?
You're not really contributing much otherwise except for calling anyone who doesn't agree with you 'not a real Democrat'.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Response to lewebley3 (Reply #58)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)What's next, a loyalty oath?
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Something none Dem would understand
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)to help Dem's work for the American people's interest, then you know the
real party people work hard for their country during all
elections, they don't sit out election ever.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)These programs are much farther right than Dem.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)self centered:
Iggo
(47,552 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)The attorney was Hillary Clinton. She made the statement to journalists during her husbands first campaign for president. Her legal representation of a shady savings and loan bank while working at a top corporate law firm in Arkansas (and her firms relations with then-governor Bill Clinton) had erupted briefly into a campaign controversy.
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/hillarys-candid-motto-democratic-party-represent-banks
Response to cali (Original post)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)on crime: You just speculate things you know nothing about.
In-fact Its the Sander people complaining about to much jailing of
criminals by The Clinton Administration.
The Clinton's were law and order people to the best of
their ability.
That is matter of record with the justice Dept
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)not so much with the 1%
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)The Clinton's did put people in jail, with Reagan's help over 2000)
they created enemies in Arkansas that created the
false political White water attacks on the Clinton's.
You need to do some homework: Clinton's career didn't
start the day Sanders announced for President.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)Black earned a J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School and a Ph.D. from the University of California, Irvine. Black is currently an Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City in the Department of Economics and the School of Law. He was the Executive Director of the Institute for Fraud Prevention from 2005-2007 and previously taught at the LBJ School of Public Affairs at the University of Texas, and at Santa Clara University.[2]
Black was litigation director for the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB) from 1984 to 1986, deputy director of the Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation (FSLIC) in 1987, and Senior VP and the General Counsel of the Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco from 1987 to 1989, which regulated some of the largest thrift banks in the U.S.[3][4]
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also i found this interview interesting
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2011/02/15/interview-with-bill-black
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)The Koch began to real enemies to the Clinton's: because
the Koch's believed that Clinton's has turned on the 1%
like FDR did.
You just don't know history
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Irony is dead
lewebley3
(3,412 posts)Response to lewebley3 (Reply #23)
Corruption Inc This message was self-deleted by its author.
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)That's the choice in a nutshell.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)tecelote
(5,122 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)Or minimally - look away.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)And they reward her handsomely for her loyalty and effort:
CLINTON TOP CAMPAIGN DONORS
Citigroup Inc----------$824,402
Goldman Sachs-------$760,740
DLA Piper ------------$700,530
JPMorgan Chase------$696,456
Morgan Stanley-------$636,564
EMILY's List----------- $609,684
Time Warner-----------$501,831
Skadden, Arps---------$469,290
University of CA-------$417,327
Sullivan & Cromwell---$369,150
Akin, Gump et al---- $364,478
Lehman Brothers---- $362,853
21st Century Fox---- $340,936
Cablevision Systems--$336,613
Kirkland & Ellis--------$329,141
Natnl Amusements---$328,312
Squire Patton Boggs--$328,306
Greenberg Traurig-----$327,890
Corning Inc------------$322,450
Credit Suisse Group---$318,120
Credit: Center for Responsive Politics
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Says a lot about our "front-runner"!
ejbr
(5,856 posts)and Bernie CAN agree on something: Hillary has their back. He hasn't been as explicit as they, but we got the message.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)her supporters are also helping Wall Street win.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)There is one thing to be successful and profitable...but these blood sucking fuckers want to drain every person dry, so that they can line their own personal pockets with the loot.
Fuck them...we need Bernie to begin the break ups and reign in these filthy fuckers.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)of years and think they are a great company to work for. Salary, benefits, profit sharing, diversity, opportunities were all awesome. I work for a small company now and they suck.
I would hope that no presidential candidate is looking to destroy AmEx. I bet a lot of employees who work for large companies are pretty happy with the same type of salary, benefits, opportunities I received. Not sure how onboard I am with people's livelihoods being destroyed.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)The folks from Camp Weathervane simply cannot respond effectively to this sort of criticism, as to do so would expose either their ignorance or their lack of humane ethics.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)money to beat the GOP, and prepares legislation that will actually restrict them. I guess she could wave her arms around, and rant about beating up wall street, but I like actually doing something about their excesses.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Wallstreet sees these minor little reforms as both nonthreatening or minor and easily dodged.
This isn't financial reform it is sophistry.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)according to the liberal economist Paul Krugman, in his article in October, 2015.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/democrats-republicans-and-wall-street-tycoons.html
For what its worth, Mrs. Clinton had the better case. Mr. Sanders has been focused on restoring Glass-Steagall, the rule that separated deposit-taking banks from riskier wheeling and dealing. And repealing Glass-Steagall was indeed a mistake. But its not what caused the financial crisis, which arose instead from shadow banks like Lehman Brothers, which dont take deposits but can nonetheless wreak havoc when they fail. Mrs. Clinton has laid out a plan to rein in shadow banks; so far, Mr. Sanders hasnt.
SNIP
While this is good news for taxpayers and the economy, financiers bitterly resent any constraints on their ability to gamble with other peoples money, and they are voting with their checkbooks. Financial tycoons loom large among the tiny group of wealthy families that is dominating campaign finance this election cycle a group that overwhelmingly supports Republicans. Hedge funds used to give the majority of their contributions to Democrats, but since 2010 they have flipped almost totally to the G.O.P.
As I said, this lopsided giving is an indication that Wall Street insiders take Democratic pledges to crack down on bankers excesses seriously. And it also means that a victorious Democrat wouldnt owe much to the financial industry.
If a Democrat does win, does it matter much which one it is? Probably not. Any Democrat is likely to retain the financial reforms of 2010, and seek to stiffen them where possible. But major new reforms will be blocked until and unless Democrats regain control of both houses of Congress, which isnt likely to happen for a long time.
In other words, while there are some differences in financial policy between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, as a practical matter theyre trivial compared with the yawning gulf with Republicans.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)she remains A Goldwater Girl
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Blue_In_AK
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WillyT
(72,631 posts)From Alert above..
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Which translates as: the north will refuse her. They are lowering expectations every day, just so the disappointment won't create a reverse snowball effect for her numbers elsewhere.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Though I'm sure that there are many who would rather see it sink.