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RandySF

(59,375 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:02 AM Jan 2016

Jane Sanders Withheld Information From Burlington College Donors While Overstating Their Pledges.

Former Burlington College president Jane Sanders overstated donation amounts in a bank application for a $6.7 million loan that was used by the college to purchase a prime 33-acre property on Lake Champlain in 2010.

Sanders told People’s United Bank that the college had $2.6 million in pledged donations to support the purchase of the former Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington property on North Avenue. The college, however, received only $676,000 in actual donations from 2010 through 2014, according to figures provided by Burlington College.

That’s far less than the $5 million Sanders listed as likely pledges in the loan agreement, and less than a third of the $2.14 million Sanders had promised People’s Bank the college would collect in cash during the four-year period.

Two people whose pledges are listed as confirmed in the loan agreement told VTDigger that their personal financial records show their pledges were overstated. Neither were aware that the pledges were used to secure the loan.

Burlington College also cited a $1 million bequest as a pledged donation that would be paid out over six years, even though the money would only be available after the donor’s death.

http://vtdigger.org/2015/09/13/jane-sanders-overstated-donation-amounts-in-loan-application-for-burlington-college/

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Jane Sanders Withheld Information From Burlington College Donors While Overstating Their Pledges. (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2016 OP
You are saying that with the financial collapse some promised donations failed to materialize? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #1
No, Jane outright overstated what the college had available to pay back the loan. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #2
This is all you've got? tecelote Jan 2016 #24
Not only that leftofcool Jan 2016 #29
The OP was brought to you by Desperation inc. Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #3
Sort of like the ones bernie people keep using to trash Hillary? leftofcool Jan 2016 #12
It didn't violate human rights (LGBT inequality), Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #68
Please, do you really want safeinOhio Jan 2016 #4
:thumbsup: elleng Jan 2016 #5
Really? After all the shit that has been said about Bill right here on DU? leftofcool Jan 2016 #10
What "shit" has been said bvf Jan 2016 #13
You may want to remove the blinders you have on Blue_Adept Jan 2016 #16
No blinders here. Any of it untrue? bvf Jan 2016 #21
Neither is Jane Sanders' crooked dealings leftofcool Jan 2016 #25
Tell us more about "Burlington's own newspaper." bvf Jan 2016 #27
Bernie has made statements about Bill Clinton Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #34
Were the statements untrue? bvf Jan 2016 #36
This thread is giving the truth. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #39
I'm still waiting for "shit" said bvf Jan 2016 #43
If it is true then it gets a pass. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #48
So, three posters so far in this thread bvf Jan 2016 #59
I am not denying what Bill Clinton has done, if the truth is given then Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #60
Fail. So sorry. bvf Jan 2016 #61
you can mix the words around all you 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #6
And yet it from Burlington's own newspaper leftofcool Jan 2016 #11
It's a pissant "online news site" NOT a newspaper. Divernan Jan 2016 #14
Is the Burlington Free Press a "pissant" too? How about 7 Days? MADem Jan 2016 #58
The people quoted above MrChuck Jan 2016 #62
I think Jane is one of Sanders' biggest problems in his campaign. MADem Jan 2016 #67
Burlington, VT has three newspapers bvf Jan 2016 #17
"Burlington's own newspaper"? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #19
Some people should not even try. n/t bvf Jan 2016 #22
Hillary's supporters threw Vermont under the bus the day Bernie announced. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #23
I'm glad I picked up your edit. bvf Jan 2016 #26
The 'yachts in the background' comment was priceless. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #28
Yeah... bvf Jan 2016 #30
The yacht thing was particularly funny to me Kalidurga Jan 2016 #33
The irony is staggering. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #45
Hint: Time to bring back this line.. snoringvoter Jan 2016 #63
Why are you so obsessed with this? Ken Burch Jan 2016 #7
are you really saying hill2016 Jan 2016 #31
Why are you attacking Jane Sanders? She's not running for office. PADemD Jan 2016 #32
Why has Bill Clinton's history been brought up, as soon as Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #35
Bill Clinton is a very public figure and campaigns for his wife as a former President. PADemD Jan 2016 #50
I am wondering about Sanders being against golden parachutes Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #56
Shall we talk about Bill Clinton's propensity for bimbos? JDPriestly Jan 2016 #8
JDPriestly 6; alert stalker 1. Ha-ha-ha! Divernan Jan 2016 #15
That was a silly alert and an easy vote. (nt) Orrex Jan 2016 #41
I got alerted on for "bimbo trail". Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #51
So trying to gloss over the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church didn't go so well did it? Kalidurga Jan 2016 #9
What's the Clinton Family Foundation doing for victims of pedophile priests? Divernan Jan 2016 #18
^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #20
careful, you could get a hide for that. Warren Stupidity Jan 2016 #52
No kidding, I got a hide for repeating what someone else posted. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #53
Even if the worst allegations against Jane and Bernie were true, they're still ... Scuba Jan 2016 #37
This isn't even small potatoes Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #42
DUDS AND SPUDS! Every time I see this smear I'm going to use that! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #54
rotfl! jury note....love it! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #65
As stated before, the truth is not an attack. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #38
Was Bill Clinton's involvement with bvf Jan 2016 #44
Another poster is discussing.... NCTraveler Jan 2016 #40
as hillary's dreams of absolute power become become less likely to materialize bowens43 Jan 2016 #46
If we're going to go after spouses, think stones and glass houses. Vinca Jan 2016 #47
If Bernie were the target of the GOP, this is what you might see...just saying... Sancho Jan 2016 #49
As a Clinton supporter (who also loves Bernie) rjsquirrel Jan 2016 #55
I still like her... Mike Nelson Jan 2016 #57
K&R! stonecutter357 Jan 2016 #64
Sponsored By Desperation Inc. Katashi_itto Jan 2016 #66
hmmm! Her Sister Apr 2016 #69

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
1. You are saying that with the financial collapse some promised donations failed to materialize?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:09 AM
Jan 2016

I am shocked.

Obviously, Bernie is unfit to serve.

I am not sure what to make of the "Neither were aware that the pledges were used to secure the loan" -- doesn't seem to matter whether they were aware of it or not. Is there a law against doing so?

As for:


Two people whose pledges are listed as confirmed in the loan agreement told VTDigger that their personal financial records show their pledges were overstated.


We have no idea if their personal financial records match what they promised the college.

SunSeeker

(51,740 posts)
2. No, Jane outright overstated what the college had available to pay back the loan.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jan 2016

For example, she claimed a pledge would be available to pay back the loan over the next 4 years when in fact it would not materialize by the terms of the donation until the donor died. As a result the college took on way more debt than it could afford to pay back.

Considering what a central role Jane Sanders plays in Bernie's campaign, this problematic financial management history does not reflect well on Bernie.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
24. This is all you've got?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:11 AM
Jan 2016

Looks like Bernie stands tall and righteous when compared to every other politician on both sides of the aisle.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
3. The OP was brought to you by Desperation inc.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jan 2016

Proud sponsor of rehashed smears. If the ssmear doesn't stick the first time, try and try again.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
12. Sort of like the ones bernie people keep using to trash Hillary?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:20 AM
Jan 2016

Burlington College nearly went bankrupt over this. But I guess as long as it is Jane Sanders, it okay to lie and cheat.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
68. It didn't violate human rights (LGBT inequality),
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jan 2016

it didn't prolong racial inequality (sponsorship from the prison industry),
it didn't almost bankrupt the country or eradicate the middle class (Wall Street pals),
it didn't amount to massive loss of life (OK-ing the Iraq War),

so no: it isn't at all like Hillary's checkered past.

And don't even get me started on her husband: DADT, DOMA, repeal of Glass-Steagall, introduction of extraordinary rendition, ...

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
10. Really? After all the shit that has been said about Bill right here on DU?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:15 AM
Jan 2016

The woman ripped off donors and investors by lying. She then got a golden parachute to leave.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
16. You may want to remove the blinders you have on
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:56 AM
Jan 2016

There have been many threads that have gone on about it the last few weeks, particularly as he began to really join the campaign trial.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
27. Tell us more about "Burlington's own newspaper."
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:23 AM
Jan 2016

That's an instant classic if ever there was one.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
43. I'm still waiting for "shit" said
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:15 AM
Jan 2016

about Bill Clinton on DU that isn't true.

I still haven't seen any.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
59. So, three posters so far in this thread
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jan 2016

have been unable to answer the simple question:

What "shit" about Bill Clinton has been said on DU that isnt true?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
60. I am not denying what Bill Clinton has done, if the truth is given then
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jan 2016

It is what it is. The truth is given about Jane Sanders. What is the problem?

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
6. you can mix the words around all you
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:00 AM
Jan 2016

Want but it's really the same post over and over. I know it's all you got so like I said before, I'll just buy some udder cream for the rash as you keep trying to get milk from this non story.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
11. And yet it from Burlington's own newspaper
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:17 AM
Jan 2016

The facts speak for themselves. She lied, people lost money. It's simple really.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
58. Is the Burlington Free Press a "pissant" too? How about 7 Days?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jan 2016
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/education/2014/08/15/financial-questions-dog-burlington-college/14117505/

Martin A. Hoak, finance officer for the diocese, did not return phone calls from a reporter.

• $500,000 in the form of a "bridge loan" from real estate magnate and philanthropist Tony Pomerleau. This was money for basic work on the diocese building to allow the college to move in and begin using it.

Pomerleau said last week that he made the loan in support of both the college and its then-president, Jane Sanders, who orchestrated the purchase.

"It wouldn't have happened without Jane," Pomerleau said. "In my mind, she did a tremendous job."

Pomerleau is also an old friend of Sanders' husband. He supported Bernie Sanders after he was elected mayor of Burlington. When Bernie Sanders won election, Pomerleau recalled proudly, "I was the first one to congratulate him."



Sanders forms unlikely alliance with wealthy developer

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2015/12/23/sanders-unlikely-alliance-wealthy-developer/77425498/


http://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/jane-says-sanders-secret-weapon-or-a-political-liability/Content?oid=2670992


That worries some Burlingtonians who have crossed paths with O'Meara Sanders in her other professional roles — particularly the seven years she spent as president of Burlington College.

"As much as I want Bernie to win, the idea of her in the White House or of having any power at all is deeply disturbing," says former faculty member Genese Grill, who was fired by O'Meara Sanders and who calls her style "extremely dictatorial."

Other critics question whether she was responsible for the school's near-demise last year, when the cash-strapped college found itself struggling to meet payroll. They say she over-leveraged the institution by borrowing $10 million to finance a risky campus expansion, assuming she could make payments by increasing enrollment and donations during an economic downturn.....So why was she ousted in the fall of 2011?

At the time, she and board members publicly maintained that her departure was entirely voluntary, though they privately admitted relations had soured in the preceding months. Things came to a head in late September, when the board added "Removal of the President" to a meeting agenda......



MrChuck

(279 posts)
62. The people quoted above
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jan 2016

have great things to say about Bernie and Jane.
The one person who was fired says she has concerns.
Big surprise.
Remember, the Catholic Diocese was eager to make this deal in order to hide some cash that would have had to have been paid out in settlements to sex abuse victims.
Let's get real here and stop trying to disqualify someone because their spouse has some lingering questions about their past.
I think you catch my drift.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
67. I think Jane is one of Sanders' biggest problems in his campaign.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
Jan 2016

And if he makes it to the general, her problems are going to--like it or not--become Front and Center issues.

This isn't about Catholics, either--and if it were, why is it a "good thing" that Jane was helping those Catholics hide their sex money? That whole arc of justification makes no sense.

Jane Sanders created a major at that school, before she was fired, in woodworking....and then put her daughter --who runs a woodworking school--in charge of it. She's a nepotist in a big way, and that's where her problems begin. It's not about the AMOUNTS, either--it's about taking money that isn't hers--be it from a college, or a political campaign--and funneling it to her kids. It's icky stuff. Sex is one thing, misappropriating money for pure selfishness and greed is another thing entirely

And it's not "asked and answered" stuff, either--if you catch MY drift.

The closer one gets to the head of the pack, the more people scrutinize. Get used to it. It has only just begun.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. Hillary's supporters threw Vermont under the bus the day Bernie announced.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jan 2016

WHITE CROWD!!!

YACHTS IN THE BACKGROUND!!!

PEOPLE OWN GUNS THERE!!!

ZOMGWTFBBQ???


And I'm supposed to believe they know anything about my home state?

Some people never get tired of embarrassing themselves.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
26. I'm glad I picked up your edit.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:20 AM
Jan 2016

I would have missed "ZOMGWTFBBQ???"



Yes indeed, and they're just getting started. Should be an interesting next few weeks.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. The 'yachts in the background' comment was priceless.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:23 AM
Jan 2016

Supporters of a 1%er who rents a mansion in the Hamptons for $50,000/week implying Vermonters are elitists because ... boats.


 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
30. Yeah...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jan 2016

After "Attack your opponent on your weaknesses," Rove should have added, "but try not to look like a fucking idiot."

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
33. The yacht thing was particularly funny to me
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:56 AM
Jan 2016

I saw yachts in the background and I was like go Bernie go he is taking the fight right to the playgrounds of the 1%.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
45. The irony is staggering.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jan 2016

Clinton supporters are accusing Bernie of cronyism because he hired his family to work on his campaign, accusing his wife of corruption, questioning the source of his "wealth" (see the 'funded by Israel' conspiracy) and most hilarious of all: accusing him of being a neocon war monger who's in the pocket of the MIC and is also responsible for Iraq.

Seriously?


 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. Why are you so obsessed with this?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:06 AM
Jan 2016

Even if everything you say about Jane were true, it would not discredit Bernie.

Only the rich benefit from what you are doing here. It can't be progressive to be on this kind of vendetta against the only progressive candidate.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
31. are you really saying
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jan 2016

that we should not be attacking Bernie while we are fine to attack Hillary in this Primary forum?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
35. Why has Bill Clinton's history been brought up, as soon as
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jan 2016

Bill Clinton start on the campaign trail even Sanders has made statements about Bill Clinton, Bill is not running, why the double standard?

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
50. Bill Clinton is a very public figure and campaigns for his wife as a former President.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jan 2016

Jane Sanders is just a supportive spouse who has not, to my knowledge, held public office.

This attack on Jane Sanders reminds me of the Jane Muskie attack during the 1972 presidential campaign.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
56. I am wondering about Sanders being against golden parachutes
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:09 AM
Jan 2016

And not much has been said about the golden parachute his wife received. Again a double standard. Bill Clinton is also a supportive spouse, why does he lose the privilege of being a supportive spouse because he has been elected to an office. This isn't the first time a couple has held offices, supporting the spouse is what spouses do. This is nit the first time a spouse has had their conduct brought to light.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Shall we talk about Bill Clinton's propensity for bimbos?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:14 AM
Jan 2016

Or maybe look into the Clinton Foundation donations and their curious relationship in some cases with the timing of permits for the purchase of weaponry?

Then there is always Benghazi, Benghazi.

Always the same "scandal" about the valuation of donations and of property and all right in 2008 when the economy fell apart.

This is just silly.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. JDPriestly 6; alert stalker 1. Ha-ha-ha!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:52 AM
Jan 2016

Mail Message
On Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:32 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Shall we talk about Bill Clinton's propensity for bimbos?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=993602

REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS
"Bimbo Eruptions" r/w attack

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:42 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing to do but alert stalk? For cryin' out loud.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I believe that the poster is making a point about the ridiculousness of scouring the past for any trivial issue and blowing it up into a major, manufactured scandal. The poster is riffing on the "r/w attack" to show how silly it is.
Leave it.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is hardly over the top for GD-P. When Democrats attack Democrats it gets ugly. That is what GD-P is for.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: First of all, the alerted on post referred to "bimbos", not "bimbo eruptions"; secondly, the term "bimbo eruptions" was coined by then Governor Bill Clinton's chief of staff:Betsey Ross Wright is an American lobbyist, activist, and political consultant who worked more than a decade for Bill Clinton in Arkansas. She served as chief of staff to Governor Clinton for seven years. As deputy chair of the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign, Wright established the rapid response system that was responsible for defending Clinton's record in Arkansas and promptly answering all personal attacks on the candidate. During the 1992 campaign, Wright coined the term "bimbo eruptions" to describe rumors alleging extramarital affairs by Clinton. Hey, alerter! Wikipedia is your friend.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Jd priestly was clearly trying to make a point about ridiculous attacks, and l suspect the alerter knows that. Please stop wasting everyone's time with these strident alerts.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Not helpful.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
51. I got alerted on for "bimbo trail".
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jan 2016

I guess the theory over at camp weathervane is that the best they can do is to try to suppress any mention of Bill's sordid history via word policing. Sort of sad. Juries ain't buying it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
9. So trying to gloss over the sexual abuse in the Catholic Church didn't go so well did it?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:38 AM
Jan 2016

So hey try another thread maybe it will get some traction. If not at least you have the high fives of your buddies to keep ya warm. I just hope they know how little you care about victims of sexual abuse if you can get some digs on a candidate you don't like.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
18. What's the Clinton Family Foundation doing for victims of pedophile priests?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jan 2016

Answer: nothing - because corporate "donors" don't give a shit about child victims. The only children corporate "donors" are interested in are the ones who need de minimis health care and education programs so they can handle working in 3rd world sweatshops for the aforementioned corporate "donors".

What's the Clinton Family Foundation doing for post-war victims of cluster bombs?

Same answer as above, with the added factor that there are MIC profits to be made from cluster bombs.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
53. No kidding, I got a hide for repeating what someone else posted.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jan 2016

They're trying to silence Bernie supporters but it just makes us more determined to stand up to the smears.

Watch your back my friend.


 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
37. Even if the worst allegations against Jane and Bernie were true, they're still ...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:02 AM
Jan 2016

... head and shoulders more ethical than Hillary and Bill.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
54. DUDS AND SPUDS! Every time I see this smear I'm going to use that!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jan 2016









Note to jury: no DUers were harmed by this post. Thank you for serving.
 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
46. as hillary's dreams of absolute power become become less likely to materialize
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:20 AM
Jan 2016

the attacks on the only candidate who can save our party become more and more ridiculous......

Vinca

(50,314 posts)
47. If we're going to go after spouses, think stones and glass houses.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:23 AM
Jan 2016

In Jane's defense, college presidents wouldn't be the ones filling out financial statements. They might sign something without reading it line by line - not a good thing - but they wouldn't be filling in the boxes on loan applications. Now . . . shall we talk about Bill?

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
55. As a Clinton supporter (who also loves Bernie)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:02 AM
Jan 2016

I say this is pure bullshit. And reaching.

Colleges do this all the time. It's normal business practice. It's a tiny school. And she's his wife not the candidate, same as Bill is Hillary's husband,!not the candidate.

Shit like this is stupid and doesn't change anyone's mind one way or the other.

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