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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:40 PM Jan 2016

Podesta Warns Sanders On Clinton Sex Scandals: 'I Hope He's Not Going There'

By NICK GASS 01/11/16 03:00 PM EST Updated 01/11/16 04:36 PM EST

Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman on Monday said he hopes Bernie Sanders doesn't go after the former secretary of state over her husband's sexual infidelities. The issue has reemerged with Donald Trump's stepped-up attacks on the matter over the course of the past month.

"Well, I hope he's not — I hope he's not going there. He said that he was going to run a positive campaign, that he wasn't going to go in for personal attacks, and I take him at his word on that," John Podesta told MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

Mitchell had referenced Sanders' remarks from last Friday in which he called the former president's past personal conduct "totally, totally disgraceful and unacceptable" but hastened to add that he was running against Hillary Clinton, not her husband. Sanders, Mitchell remarked, had not exactly dismissed Trump's comments about the former president as he had done with swirling questions about her "damn emails" in the October Democratic debate.

Bill Clinton "remains an asset for us," Podesta said, adding that the former president would continue to campaign on behalf of his wife.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/john-podesta-bernie-sanders-clinton-sex-scandals-217580#ixzz3wyxcVbvX

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Podesta Warns Sanders On Clinton Sex Scandals: 'I Hope He's Not Going There' (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2016 OP
Political fixer says what on the day the Jane Sanders attack pieces start? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #1
Exactly. peacebird Jan 2016 #2
Yep. tecelote Jan 2016 #4
Great analogy!!! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #6
I salute you. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #9
No shit. Major Hogwash Jan 2016 #15
Right? So many Clinton Scandals...so little time. AzDar Jan 2016 #16
This makes me wonder if their own polling shows worse numbers snagglepuss Jan 2016 #19
She Actually Said On HardBall Tonight That "She Was Coming Up W/ EVERYTHING" CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #52
The Third Wayers are out in full force CoffeeCat Jan 2016 #29
They should think very carefully before opening these multiple cans of worms. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #31
My Thoughts AND Feelings EXACTLY!! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #40
yes. I'm googling "Energizer". 840high Jan 2016 #46
It IS Sooo "Hilaryious" as... CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #51
He doesn't do that but the Republicans will. Sienna86 Jan 2016 #3
I saw that interview...I think they want Bernie to keep defending them. It's their fight, not his. Punkingal Jan 2016 #5
our worthless media will ask Sanders over and over and over rurallib Jan 2016 #7
Okay, this will be the meme for tomorrow sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #8
Or what? nt haikugal Jan 2016 #10
Cats been out of the bag for some time. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #11
Ooooh, he "warns" him tularetom Jan 2016 #12
Podesta, shut your yap. You wouldn't know a class act like Bernie if he bit you on your .... highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #13
This is ripe, "Bill nor Hillary dismissed Trump's comments about the former President" either. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #14
Oh, FFS, there's absolutely no reason to think Sanders is "going there". winter is coming Jan 2016 #17
"Made-up bullshit" is pretty much all they have at this point n/t arcane1 Jan 2016 #26
Yes- Sanders did NOT raise the subject. Some dumbass reporter or other similar moran did. kath Jan 2016 #45
Clinton's Campaign Must Have Realized That Bill Was Going To Be A Liability For Them..... global1 Jan 2016 #18
If Bill Clinton is as toxic as George Walker Bush DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #20
Barack Wasn't Married To Bill... global1 Jan 2016 #21
So Bill is an effective surrogate for Barack but not for Hill ? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #23
Please, do not put Obama into the same category as sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #25
I will re-post what I posted and DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #27
Sorry, if I offended you with my post. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #33
I wasn't comparing their character. The current president has a stellar one. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #36
Obama was not married to BC and women's rights and empowerment were not his signature karynnj Jan 2016 #30
It seems she is being punished twice. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #32
Completely agree - especially if she never played a role in dismissing the allegations karynnj Jan 2016 #34
An oft missed point in when a woman has an affair with a married man she is disrespecting the wife. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #37
I never miss that nor the other fact that it is a betrayal and disrespecting of the spouse karynnj Jan 2016 #38
To his eternal shame. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #41
It's not a big deal to me personally but someone saying Jarqui Jan 2016 #24
"Cut it out, you guys!" 99Forever Jan 2016 #22
Podesta is a sleazy campaigner in his own right. Remember the 2008 North Carolina black vote? JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #35
See My Analogy Below... It's The Houdini Affect! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #44
Hey Bernie don't do that thing you aren't doing, really now cut it out. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #28
His lobbying firm EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #39
We may not see it on 840high Jan 2016 #47
Need To PUMP THIS SHIT BIGTIME... Just One More Scandal On Da Books For Clinton Inc.! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #53
When did Bernie go there? This is Clintonian tactics 101 ram2008 Jan 2016 #42
Oh, I See What They're Doing... ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #43
actually trying to win by putting Flowers et al front and center sounds exactly MisterP Jan 2016 #48
The Corporate Media was all over Bernie to defend Clinton after Trump went after him. Skwmom Jan 2016 #49
Tough shit. Bill campaigns for Hillary his past can and will be brought up Autumn Jan 2016 #50
I wasn't the screwing around, it wasn't even the lying about it tularetom Jan 2016 #54
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
1. Political fixer says what on the day the Jane Sanders attack pieces start?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jan 2016

Sorry, John, no time today. I'm dusting off a TON of Clinton scandals. They went for the throat. We can do that.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
4. Yep.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jan 2016

The guy that tries to sucker punch you and misses... then says "Hey, don't hit me. I'm wearing glasses".

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
19. This makes me wonder if their own polling shows worse numbers
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jan 2016

for Hillary then what is public because the attacks today truly seem desperate - throw anything and everything at Bernie to see if anything sticks.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
52. She Actually Said On HardBall Tonight That "She Was Coming Up W/ EVERYTHING"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016

Unless Clinton Inc. cheats like crazy bringing in ringers from outside... she is toast!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
29. The Third Wayers are out in full force
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jan 2016

They will be hitting on thousands of different fronts. You know they all had some big four-alarm meeting where they all decided that Bernie threatens not just Hillary, but the entire future of these corporatist Dems that have tried to hijack our party and drive it into a Republican lite sewer.

I've been a Democrat my entire life, and I will be pleased when this nefarious, corporate-centric faction of our party is nuked from orbit by the voters and by President Bernie Sanders.

Then, we can return to being the party of FDR and not some mutant strain of Democrat that wants wars, corporate corruption, dirty money in politics and our jobs shipped to China due to horrible trade agreements.

No more!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
31. They should think very carefully before opening these multiple cans of worms.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jan 2016

Every lie, every scandal, every struggling person screwed over so Bill could out-GOP the GOP, all of these and more will come home to roost. I saw them go for my candidate's throat today. Do they want to come out and play? By all means, come out and play.

Sienna86

(2,149 posts)
3. He doesn't do that but the Republicans will.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jan 2016

It'll be the 90's all over again. Former President Clinton has some questionable issues with women.

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
5. I saw that interview...I think they want Bernie to keep defending them. It's their fight, not his.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jan 2016

Didn't they KNOW Bill's past would come up?

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
7. our worthless media will ask Sanders over and over and over
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

what's he supposed to do? He gave his opinion and tried to move on. He said it has nothing to do with this race.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
8. Okay, this will be the meme for tomorrow
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jan 2016

Yesterday: Iowa's voters are sexist and racist,

Today: Bernie stole HRC's data,

Tomorrow: Bernie made derogatory remarks about
a former great president

All this to explain her flailing campaign.

What will it be on Wednesday?????

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
12. Ooooh, he "warns" him
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jan 2016

Of course Senator Sanders is too much of a gentleman to go for the jugular but the Clinton campaign pushed Bill Clinton to the forefront and they have to expect that all of his many fuckups, sexual as well as political, are going to be fair game in this primary. But if she survives the primaries, she'd better be prepared to be hammered about Bill around the clock. And not in a nice polite Bernie Sanders way either.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
13. Podesta, shut your yap. You wouldn't know a class act like Bernie if he bit you on your ....
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:57 PM
Jan 2016

Bill Clinton is only a very questionable asset, thank goodness.

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
14. This is ripe, "Bill nor Hillary dismissed Trump's comments about the former President" either.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016


Mitchell had referenced Sanders' remarks from last Friday in which he called the former president's past personal conduct "totally, totally disgraceful and unacceptable" but hastened to add that he was running against Hillary Clinton, not her husband. Sanders, Mitchell remarked, had not exactly dismissed Trump's comments about the former president as he had done with swirling questions about her "damn emails" in the October Democratic debate.




That was the first criticism from Trump that Hillary nor Bill could or did reply to, now why is that?

Trump's criticism muted Hillary's criticism of him being a sexist or misogynist, despite the fact that he is.

The same thing will happen in the General Election should Hillary be the nominee.

Bernie has already gone the extra mile defending Hillary whether it was corporate media infatuation with her e-mails during the first debate or Trump's ridiculous criticism of her going to the bathroom during the last one, many lesser candidates would've just stayed quite on both occasions.

Has Hillary defended Bernie against Republican Criticism, if she has I missed it.

Thanks for the thread, Purveyor.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. Oh, FFS, there's absolutely no reason to think Sanders is "going there".
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:02 PM
Jan 2016

He answered ONE question, in a way that made it clear he's not interested in dwelling on Bill's misadventures, and suddenly the parrots are acting like he's talking about it at every press opportunity.

global1

(25,242 posts)
18. Clinton's Campaign Must Have Realized That Bill Was Going To Be A Liability For Them.....
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

They are using Bill at their peril. If they didn't realize Bill as a liability - then they are really, really bad at directing a campaign.

I actually believe Bill is as toxic to Hillary as Dubya would be to Jeb!. I don't know why they didn't realize that.

As far as Bernie going negative - I don't think he has. He just was stating a point that what Bill did was reprehensible. I believe he went on to say that "He's running against Hillary - not Bill" and went on expounding on his platform.

I think Podesta is just saying this 'negative' stuff - to put the thought out there/cast a doubt in people's minds. I think the Clinton campaign is getting desperate and their internal polls must be really bad.

Bernie has been developing momentum as we are seeing in the polls and we are finally hearing on MSM.

If Podesta is worried about 'negative comments on Bill' - he ain't seen nothing yet if Bill keeps campaigning for Hillary. The Repugs will use Bill against Hillary and in a much more damaging way - then Bernie just saying that what Bill did was reprehensible (which most people think anyway).

If Hillary's campaign managers are smart - they would pull Bill ASAP. Send him on a long trip until the primaries are over. And if Hillary should emerge as the Dem nominee - make sure he extends that trip til after the General Election.






DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
20. If Bill Clinton is as toxic as George Walker Bush
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:22 PM
Jan 2016
I actually believe Bill is as toxic to Hillary as Dubya would be to Jeb!. I don't know why they didn't realize that.


If Bill Clinton is as toxic as George Walker Bush why did Barack Obama ask him to make the nomination address at the 2012 Democratic Convention:




and why was Bill Clinton the first person he called after he was re-elected to thank?

Thank you in advance.


Respectfully,
DSB

global1

(25,242 posts)
21. Barack Wasn't Married To Bill...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

And he was probably rewarding Bill for sabotaging Hillary's campaign back then and allowing him to go on to win the Presidency.

Just my humble opinion.

Sorry

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
23. So Bill is an effective surrogate for Barack but not for Hill ?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

And the thank you was for his work during the 2012 campaign.


Respectfully,
DSB


sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
25. Please, do not put Obama into the same category as
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jan 2016

Bill Clinton. I may have some serious differences with our
POTUS, but I respect him and his family.

I agree with Bernie that BC' s affairs , but more so his total
lies about it was disgraceful. That this is coming up now
because of the Dumpster, had to be expected, considering
how that vile demagogue operates.

So no Obama has in these matters the cleanest bill of health,
and I resent any comparison.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
27. I will re-post what I posted and
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

I will re-post what I posted, verbatim, and can you please point out where i was wrong instead of lecturing me as if I am your charge:


I actually believe Bill is as toxic to Hillary as Dubya would be to Jeb!. I don't know why they didn't realize that.

-global 1



If Bill Clinton is as toxic as George Walker Bush why did Barack Obama ask him to make the nomination address at the 2012 Democratic Convention:




and why was Bill Clinton the first person he called after he was re-elected to thank?

Thank you in advance.


Respectfully,
DSB

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
33. Sorry, if I offended you with my post.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jan 2016

Not my intention at all. I just detest comparison between
those two. Both are politically excellent, but one is a gentleman
while the other is not,imo.

I think for a while Clinton was very popular and that was good
for Obama's support. I also believe that the between the two
of them they discussed HRC's future plans and a run for the WH.

By now BC may not be as popular due to several of his policies
as well as the Dumster's attack on him. I don't believe that in
the case of a Bernie win BC would be asked to make such a
a speech. I could be wrong, of course, but we will see.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
36. I wasn't comparing their character. The current president has a stellar one.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jan 2016

As to Clinton's character I believe he is a decent guy but a recovering philanderer. When Lady Bird Johnson was reminded of her husband's philandering she casually said "Lyndon loved everybody."


All I said was that PBO asked WJC to make his nomination speech and he was the first person PBO called to thank after he was re-elected.


karynnj

(59,503 posts)
30. Obama was not married to BC and women's rights and empowerment were not his signature
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

issue. She has decades of serious work on those issues - a genuinely strong record. As long as Trump is throwing this out there and Bill is out there, it cuts against HRC.

Whether or not she did anything wrong, the story out there is that she was an enabler and, to protect Bill, tried to silence the women. If this story is false - she needs to find a strong way to deny it. Consider her very strong comments that women's allegations need to listened to -- pitch perfect - unless there is some merit in the obnoxious Trump accusation. Part of the problem is that these accusations are mostly inferred - something the odious Trump does well - making it really hard to fight.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
32. It seems she is being punished twice.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jan 2016

First when her husband stepped out and then again when her nemeses try to make political hay out of it. I believe she will emerge from this victorious. That's my opinion. I have every right to hold it, and as long as I am vertical I am not going to alter it.

Thank you in advance.


Respectfully,
DSB

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
34. Completely agree - especially if she never played a role in dismissing the allegations
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jan 2016

The ONLY negative for Hillary Clinton is if she attempted to smear the women in general or specific.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
37. An oft missed point in when a woman has an affair with a married man she is disrespecting the wife.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jan 2016

Just as when a man has an affair with a married woman he is disrespecting the husband.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
38. I never miss that nor the other fact that it is a betrayal and disrespecting of the spouse
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jan 2016

In terms of Hillary, Bill Clinton betrayed her and disrespected her repeatedly.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
24. It's not a big deal to me personally but someone saying
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jan 2016

"how is Hillary going to control Bill from keeping his hands off the White House interns?"

I suspect from the Clinton campaign perspective that they feel it's now going to be a problem for some voters.

You know the GOP are going to stoke those thoughts and for the (often sexually hypocritical) religious right, they'll be hand-wringing at the pulpit, prayin' to their Lord to keep the sex heathen out of the White House!.

So sad. But it's like a wedge issue. Or like Benghazi. Scrape a few more points off Hillary.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
22. "Cut it out, you guys!"
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jan 2016

Bwahahahahahahahaha....

... from the mouth of the chairman of one of the sleaziest campaigners in modern history.


Yeah, yeah Johnny boy, we'll be sure to give a fuck what you say. In fact, a whole bunch of them.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
44. See My Analogy Below... It's The Houdini Affect!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jan 2016

Or speaking out of both side of your mouth, or find the pea under the walnut game by switching the objects around and you're supposed to "guess" where the pea is.

Obfuscating and trying to make it look like something else. Same playbook, no matter who the run against.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
39. His lobbying firm
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jan 2016

Podesta's lobbying firm (Clinton has a lobbyist as campaign manager remember) represents all sorts of lovely people like arms manufacturers and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Podesta is currently helping SA stay out of the US press while they - with help from the UK and US - bomb civilians and starve 2,000,000 kids in Yemen.

By helping SA bomb Yemen - and selling them billions of dollars in weapons - the US is helping ISIS and Al Qaeda in Yemen.

And Podesta is helping to make sure you don't see it on your news.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
42. When did Bernie go there? This is Clintonian tactics 101
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jan 2016

They want Bernie to go there so Hillary can play the victim and try to make it look like he's the one that's attacking. Not gonna happen.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
43. Oh, I See What They're Doing...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie DIDN'T attack her or Bill, so now they take his comment and turn it into something it's not. By doing this they can kinda/sorta SAY Bernie "implied" statements, while not actually accusing him.

They're trying to bait him into responding by insinuating this. Hoping he'll say that's NOT what he said or implied. Regardless, they're also making it "seem" as though this is what he actually meant but didn't say.

THEY KEEP THE ISSUE FRONT & CENTER and make sure her supporters can manipulate the issue as they want! Trying too hard too hard to be too clever! Remember when you wear a silk gown, you can see right through it!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
48. actually trying to win by putting Flowers et al front and center sounds exactly
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jan 2016

like the dumb-smart thing they usually do

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
49. The Corporate Media was all over Bernie to defend Clinton after Trump went after him.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jan 2016

The Sunday shows were a circus.

Let Hillary defend Bill.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
50. Tough shit. Bill campaigns for Hillary his past can and will be brought up
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jan 2016
All's fair in love and war, and this is fucking war.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
54. I wasn't the screwing around, it wasn't even the lying about it
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jan 2016

It was that the entire steaming pile of white trash drama kept a lot of us defending somebody we actually despised because the republicans were so over the top in their pursuit of him. While we were so busy sticking up for Clinton he was selling the country out to the corporations and the 1% and we were too distracted by all his scandals to pay attention.

Is that his fault? No, but fool me once shame on.., fool me..., won't get fooled again, as Clinton's "brother from another mother"Bush Jr. once said.

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