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Omaha Steve

(99,630 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:59 PM Jan 2016

Did Hillary's EMAIL sink her in Iowa instead of the data breech as has been suggested? (now a poll)


I was asked to make this a poll.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/did-hillary-clinton-diss-iowa-caucuses-private-email-n472251

Did Hillary Clinton Diss the Iowa Caucuses in Private Email?

by MARK MURRAY

The latest State Department release of Hillary Clinton emails contained this message from Clinton to friend Sidney Blumenthal: "If Mittens [Mitt Romney] can't beat Grinch [Gingrich] in Florida, there will be pressure on state Republican parties to reopen or liberalize ballot access especially in the caucuses, which as we know are creatures of the parties' extremes."

Clinton's remark shouldn't be too surprising given that she lost caucuses contests - including Iowa's - to Barack Obama in 2008.

But if Clinton's caucuses-tilt-to-the-extremes comment sounds familiar, it's pretty much what helped sink Howard Dean before the 2004 Iowa caucuses - exclusive video that NBC News unearthed during that election cycle.
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Did Hillary's EMAIL sink her in Iowa instead of the data breech as has been suggested? (now a poll) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2016 OP
To suggest the data breech yielded anything that would change the course of the race is ridiculous. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #1
True! nt artislife Jan 2016 #4
Yes that was one stupid thread here at DU which is getting a lot of ridicule. emulatorloo Jan 2016 #5
The laugh-line is growing by the minute on that thread Segami Jan 2016 #9
Yep! emulatorloo Jan 2016 #11
When all looks hopeless it's time to resort to the shotgun approach. NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #6
Or the cigarette lighter. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #12
I would add "dishonest" to that description. arcane1 Jan 2016 #8
+1, the data breach was focused on SC. joshcryer Jan 2016 #24
Iowa Democrats disrespect the Iowa Republican Causus all the time emulatorloo Jan 2016 #2
Well, she did use the plural possessive form of "party", Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #17
It's more likely related to the biggest thing in her wordcloud: Untrustworthy. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #3
Nope, it was the data... data breached and now Sanders is closer... :-) uponit7771 Jan 2016 #7
Spoken like it's a fact, and with great authority, signifying NOTHING. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #13
I think you missed the smile at the end of that post. kath Jan 2016 #16
I did miss it. I'm left wondering what's meant, if not the obvious. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #19
It was the data theft. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #10
And tomorrows meme to blame sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #14
In keeping with the Daily Mail STYLE headline... anigbrowl Jan 2016 #15
No I think she is sinking because she does what she always does Kalidurga Jan 2016 #18
It's just Clinton fatigue. Besides, I don't think Iowa likes her. Punkingal Jan 2016 #20
I think the good people of Iowa simply like Senator Sanders' message. It is pro-Sanders Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #21
No, Bernie's message and Hillary's history are the things sinking her campaign. Scuba Jan 2016 #22
Sanders has an impressive phone banking game in IA. joshcryer Jan 2016 #23
What sunk her was Hillary Clinton, her ties to the elites, Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #25
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
6. When all looks hopeless it's time to resort to the shotgun approach.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

Issue lots of claims, accusations and hope that at least one sticks.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. I would add "dishonest" to that description.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jan 2016

They know they're talking shit, but will say Whatever It Takes.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
24. +1, the data breach was focused on SC.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:06 AM
Jan 2016

And they got caught and fired before they could do anything with it.

emulatorloo

(44,123 posts)
2. Iowa Democrats disrespect the Iowa Republican Causus all the time
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

Because the Republican caucus always goes for the crazy Christian.

That comment does not hurt her w Democrats, but probably makes Republicans mad, lol.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. Well, she did use the plural possessive form of "party",
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jan 2016

which means she thinks both Democratic and Republican caucuses are "creatures of the parties' extremes."

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
13. Spoken like it's a fact, and with great authority, signifying NOTHING.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

Come on back if you get something actionable.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
14. And tomorrows meme to blame
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

Bernie for catching up with her in Iowa to

claim that he made derogatory remarks about
a former great president? What idiotic excuse
will you find for Wednesday.

Oh, I am sure you will find new ones.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
15. In keeping with the Daily Mail STYLE headline...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jan 2016

Betteridge's law of headlines advises that any headline ending with a question mark can be safely answered with 'No.'

The reason why journalists use that style of headline is that they know the story is probably bullshit, and don’t actually have the sources and facts to back it up, but still want to run it.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
18. No I think she is sinking because she does what she always does
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:46 PM
Jan 2016

She gets all attacky and starts looking desperate. Then she sticks her foot in her mouth and starts asking about birth certificates and things like that.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
21. I think the good people of Iowa simply like Senator Sanders' message. It is pro-Sanders
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jan 2016

not anti-Hillary that is the main force at work behind the Sanders surge

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
25. What sunk her was Hillary Clinton, her ties to the elites,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jan 2016

and still increasing name recognition of her two competitors.

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