2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVox: "Bernie Sanders has an 11-point advantage over Hillary Clinton among voters under 35"
A new poll of 18- to 35-year-olds from Rock the Vote and USA Today finds that they prefer Sanders to Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, 46 percent to 35 percent...
The poll didn't ask about socialism specifically. But in December, the Harvard Institute of Politics released its own poll of 18- to 29-year-olds, and found that Sanders held a similar advantage over Clinton: 41 percent to 35 percent. Only 9 percent said Sanders's socialism made them less likely to vote for him.
Full article: http://www.vox.com/2016/1/11/10750326/clinton-sanders-poll?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=voxdotcom&utm_content=monday
onehandle
(51,122 posts)snoringvoter
(178 posts)Thank you for offending them and giving them NO reason to vote for Clinton, but go all out on Bernie.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I have a couple of grandkids that LOVE to be told they can't do something!
zentrum
(9,865 posts)It is offensiveas far as they're concerned it seems to be okay to just write off the whole future of the party.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)YAY!!!
zentrum
(9,865 posts)The millennials in my family can't wait. All female.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)- who else are you going to vote for?
- you are complacent (DWS)
- you are f*cking retarded (Rahm)
- We don't need your vote (Clinton's campaign)
- You just want a pony
- Now is not the right time for that (Obama's administration on gay rights, single payer, and a few more things in 2009)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Green Forest
(232 posts)Nice the way that turned out!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Obama lost voters over 40 in 2012. Obama lost or tied voters over 40 in 2008.
Those "kids who don't vote" elected Obama twice.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)'Kids' saw a slight uptick for him.
The MSM made it seem like they elected him.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)2012:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
Women and men basically canceled each other out. 18-24 and 25-29 were utterly dominated by Obama voters, while Romney barely won among 40+
2008:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics
Both genders voted for Obama. 40-65 were tied, 65+ went McCain. Again, 18-29 dominated by Obama.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Women. Elected. Obama.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)what happens? It effectively cancels out the plurality. In 2012, Men voted for Romney as much as Women voted for Obama.
Now, go take a look at the plurality of under 39 voters, versus the slim majority among over 40 voters. Older voters did not go for Romney as much as younger voters went for Obama.
Your claim requires 60% to be smaller than 55%. You claim also requires not looking at the next entry in the table, where married women voted for Romney by 7 points.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Instead, you're claiming 55 is bigger than 60, and that men voting for Romney had no effect on the election. You're also not providing any reason why the most women who voted (more married women voted than unmarried) voted for Romney yet women were responsible for Obama's victory.
randys1
(16,286 posts)they vote for.
If ALL any of us really cared about was that, electing any non repub, we could really accomplish something.
Working GOTV is hard work.
madokie
(51,076 posts)My bet is they will and my bet is the person who they vote for will win this hands down. How's them apples?
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)I've been spending a few nights a week showing the hipsters at the brewpub how to cast their Primary vote on Reddit.
Despite their otherwise sullen nature, they've been surprisingly appreciative.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)But I did make liberal use of emojis.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)It's their century. We're just guests who have stayed a bit past check-out time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)jalan48
(13,863 posts)They like Bernie because according to them, "He's more real". Hillary is perceived as a career politician who's out for herself.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)The kids are very perceptive.!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Krytan11c
(271 posts)More voters is good, you know?