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I love our sister Ashley and I also think her new tv series is awesome. Her show is in danger of being canceled.
My question is, can we feminists find away to help her keep her show by showing support? How would we go about that if we wanted to do that? Could we find other feminist groups to join us? Can we stick together in support of this great actress/feminist?
Anybody have any idea's on how to help her keep her show on the air? Or am I just dreaming?
She needs us lobbying ABC for her and her show. Can we do that and find others to join us? How would we go about this if enough of us agree that Ashley deserves our help?
Or am I just a bleeding heart? Or should we feminists bond together to in order to help another feminist?
Time is of the essence.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)really interesting. Good story.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)how her character is operating in a man's world. Her character is former CIA, where she has as many if not more skills that the men. She is good at what she does, she has a strong constitution and her brains and brawn equal that of the men CIA agents if not more so. Yet she is a loving mother who will do anything to protect her son.
Her character shows a women who can be both a wife & mother while still excelling in the traditional mans world of the CIA and excel at both.
I find the show good for showing that women can become much more than just being a wife, mother and home maker. We all can do much more than what society thinks our role is.
I know it's just a tv show but it is Ashley one that is giving women a chance to not just play some silly, second fiddle role like many other shows.
My main thought though, was that Ashley needs us to stand up for her so she can keep her show on the air. She is a outspoken advocate for feminism. She deserves this show, which is a good one and maybe if we lobbied ABC to keep the show it would stay on ABC's line up.
She speaks up for us. Shouldn't we have her back. She certainly deserves to have her show renewed, imho.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)We watched the first episode and then just lost track of it. I think neither of us was totally taken with it, for whatever reasons. I figured I'd just getthe co-vivant to download it for summer watching. (Most of what we watch these days is downloaded BBC stuff.)
So I checked it out at imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828246/board/nest/197832964
viewer comment:
I haven't read replies in the thread because it's a pain in the ass to read them one by one, but you might want to read more there:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828246/
Here's another viewer comment:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1828246/board/nest/198051079
I was a loyal watcher of "Missing" and had seen all episodes or watched via Tivo.
The Funny or Die skit's anti-Catholic/pro-abortionist rant put a terrible taste in my mouth and I'm not even Catholic. Any actor who put's down a religions core beliefs is not worthy of my entertainment time. I guess Ashley Judd is so rich now that she doesn't care about her audience, network that she represents, or her fans anymore. Ashley Judd is a delegate for her state, so I guess politics trumps her acting career. It's a shame, but true.
Why do the Hollywood Elites ruin the entertainment value for the audience by putting their politics first? I watch TV and movies for fun, suspense, escape, not politics.
I don't know what they're talking about there, but I wonder whether there is any backlash involved.
Is it this?
To your question, I dunno ... write the network, write the advertisers ...
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Thanks for posting it!
Little Star
(17,055 posts)One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Apparently they discovered their advertisements don't cause us older folks to run right out and buy the latest widget. At-least not like the 30something crowd.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)that we are a huge market block. They need to hear us roar!
iverglas
(38,549 posts)I think that's more the problem -- that the audience skews to the old.
Get the younger women watching it, and it would have the advertisers' holy grail. With a continuing story, though, it's too late to get them on board. And as a late-season entry, it isn't likely going to be in summer reruns.
What do 30-something feminists watch on television? :headscratch:
In my day ... we had Murphy Brown and Designing Women. Before that, Mary Tyler Moore and Maude. This year it's that B**** in apt. 23. (I love that one, along with GCB, simply for the fact that they blow the whole stupid argument about how "bitch" is mainstream-media sanctified out of the water. - edit - but I hasten to add that that's the only thing I love about them. )
Little Star
(17,055 posts)http://abc.go.com/site/contact-us
This is what I said:
As a feminist I am asking that ABC consider giving Ashley Judd's TV series "Missing" a second season.
Ashley is a feminist and many of us feel that this show is an important one.
I will be reaching out to feminist groups asking them to lobby you for a second season of "Missing" It is good for our movement and it is also a very good show that will just get better if given the time to develop.
Please consider renewing Missing for a second season.
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Do any of you know other feminist sites that might join us in helping our own feminist Ashley Judd keep her job?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am going to get on this later today, maybe in the morning. i will get back to you on this. i am not good about sites, but there are many. i will see what i can find.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)I like this show because ...
... because I am an intelligent grown-up woman, and TV programs that want me in their audience are getting fewer and farther between. Missing is one that does.
I don't want to see sexually abused dead women. I don't want to see women playing helpmeet/sidekick to male leads. I want to see women who are the stars of their own lives, with responsibilities and brains. Missing epitomizes this.
I also make and spend a lot of money of my own. Lose me, and advertisers lose too.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Supporting positive media is important if we want to see more of it.
Are you on facebook? This deserves to be posted on their page a few times.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)It's not so easy to spread the word by posting in comments.
Do you Twitter? I wonder if there's a hashtag or two about her since her critique of the media.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Anyone, please, please, please.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)Like that's gonna happen!!!!!!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)for christmas. so son will be in his room and i am talking on seri. son, did you talk to your councilor today, question mark. he will yell to me.... mom, i am in my room, i can hear you. no, didnt go to councilor today.
i tell him.... i cant hear you
i am so very irritating for all the kids and nieces (actually youngest isnt allowed a phone yet. not until 16). i have more fun irritating them than actually using. then i forget to carry around. they will text me and i see it the next day. yes, i am awake, what do you want, lol. too late they say. well hell, should have phoned, huh.
silly hubby, buying me that thing.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)iverglas
(38,549 posts)Okay, great art it ain't. But it stars an excellent actor who happens to be an older woman, and it continues the Boston Legal drama-as-polemic tradition from David E. Kelley (along with his fixation on young skinny cosmetically perfect women, of course): pretty much every episode features an issue and a soapbox speech about it giving voice to the progressive left.
Last night it was ... oops, I think it airs on Sunday in the US, so I won't go into detail, but it involves the ban on gay men donating blood in the US.
If you watch on Sunday, look out for Harry's line (approximately): "Sometimes I long for the days when I was 18 to 49 years old."
The writers knew they were for the high jump -- the series has now been cancelled, and that's why: the demographics were wrong, same as for Missing.
http://ca.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/new_hope_community_no_hope_ashley_judds/301767
On one hand, the new thriller was a marked upgrade over Wipeout in the 8 p.m. hour.
Its 10 milion viewers represented broadcast TV's second-largest overall audience of the night; only American Idol scored more.
On the other hand, its 2.0 demo rating was weak. The number made the Judd series look like Harry's Law, a show capable of drawing eyeballs, just not the demographically desirable kind.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)I loved Harry's Law. Their bastids for canceling it!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i assumed there was nothing on anyway, lol. i saw an OP yesterday on harrys law and another show being canceled.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)since DVR came into my life which allows me to watch shows in "my time", I watch quite a bit. My hubby was a tv addict and I guess it rubbed off.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)on reading again. so my tv is off..... hubby will turn it on for stewart and colbert at night. that is about it.
we all find ways to fill in time. if i wasnt reading, i would be using tv. just a different form of entertainment.
iverglas
(38,549 posts)We are perfectly happy to sit and watch TV for 3 hours after I knock off work in the evening. Most of what we're watching these days is downloaded BBC stuff -- from medical soaps along the line of ER (not to mention Coronation Street, and EastEnders for me - he can't understand the dialogue) to historical drama mini-series to whatever's new in cop/courtroom drama. We both read all day and are perfectly happy to be entertained by well-written video at night, be it frivolous or deep.
Aha, the big Man U / Man City shootout seems to have ended. I'm guessing City prevailed over QPR and United thrashed Sunderland, which means City takes the prize on the season point score. Yes, it's Sunday soccer in this household.
Soccer provides an interesting exercise in male-female communication for me. You know how girls going on dates are always told to show an interest in the boy, ask him about himself, blah blah blah? And of course not talk about themselves. Well, I never dated, and all that stuff just sailed over my head anyway. When I was with a man I just talked about the stuff I talked about with anybody, politics, generally, and whatever else interested us both that was the whole damned reason I was bothering with him in the first place, which included the work both of us did. I'm a bit of an amusing-story-teller, and that's a significant portion of my conversation.
So we watch soccer. I ask questions. City lost a man to a red card today. Can they decide what player they will be down? No, it's the guy who got sent off who has to stay off. No, I understand that part of course, but if a striker is sent off, can they put another striker on? Oh yes, they can shuffle the players as they like. Paul Scholes is referred to as having returned. When did he come back? In January; he had retired last year, and then in December he went to Alex Ferguson and said he regretted retiring, and the team had had a lot of injuries, so they took him back. Ah, I was just curious because I hadn't heard his name a lot this year. Yeah, they don't play him every game, he's 37 and he can't do that these days.
So ... I know all about Premier League football. Who came up this year, who's being relegated ... well, not all. But enough that I can carry on a conversation about soccer if I happen to find myself having to do that. And the co-vivant gets quite animated when I query him or make some relatively informed-sounding comment about a game. So everybody's happy.
Except that ... it isn't reciprocal. He doesn't ask me about anything. If I start telling a story about some event of my day or expounding on some issue of interest to me (the equivalent of soccer would be genealogy, and my exploits in my families' histories really are absolutely fascinating), I can pretty much see the eyes glazing over and the mental watch being checked.
Some of this sort of thing is personal -- I'm curious as hell, and I developed an interview-style way of talking to people long ago. It puts people at ease and makes them happy to be asked about things that interest them, and I actually learn things, even if it's only about soccer. (I'm not meaning that I try to pry into personal stuff.) I guess that's why girls are told to do that on dates: it makes people like you. I find that most people don't have either the genuine curiosity or the genuine interest in other people, or just stuff in general that other people might like to talk about, to make the effort to interact that way. And I do find that men are more likely to fit that pattern.
This subject might have been more suited to the "mansplain" thread, but I just got going here.
Gotta go ask which team came out on top.