Must have been four "men" on the jury

[Tuesday Afternoon]

reckon

[redqueen]

1. It's interesting to me that men can call women sluts in posts and juries won't hide it...

but comics which depict no misandry at all are somehow hidden.

This place is a riot, all right.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

2. hilarious stuff goes on around here. can't understand who or why it was even alerted.

another "man" perhaps ...

[seabeyond]

4. i was having the same problem trying to find the issue with post. misandry?

posting a mans words that are offensive to men cause the man sounds so fuckin' stupid, is now misandry?

nothing in that post.

the hide was not about a post. or misandry. the alert was on a duer. a long time duer. the alert was on shutting redq up. the alert focused on redq. and redq was the reason the post was hidden. she dared to speak. she dared to get recommends that ended up on home page? i am clueless what that is about.

the alerter alerted on redq. he should be banned from alerting.

the jurors hid the post because it was redq. they should be banned from being on jury.

at the very least, skinner should not be telling us if we get a hide, we should take it seriously cause the community is saying something. or if we have people ignoring us, then it is our fault. because he is basically telling women to know their place. feminist have always been a small minority with a very loud voice. they have never been the "popular" kids but the kids that get shit done. we will NEVER have the majority on our side and fuckin bullshit if anyone expects me to apologize for that.

that was a fucked up hide and every one on du should be ashamed that a hide is the result of the poster, not a post.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

5. I just can not believe this shit ... all the fucking blonde jokes left alone ... which is not

only sexist but, racist as all hell. fuck me rolling. this place ... sometimes ...

[redqueen]

6. It was targeted at HoF, too.

One of the juror's mentioned something about an "auto hide" for any HoF threads.

You reminded me of this:

[seabeyond]

10. the difference between the cowards and the courageous. be the small minority that dare to speakout

against the masses. not easy to do.

[boston bean]

3. being a feminist and just making comparisons

to how it might be for men if they faced the same thing is misandry... doncha know??

[Tuesday Afternoon]

8. such two faced bullshit. they can dish it out but, they can't take it. well, then QUIT dishing it

out muthafuckas because we are here to stay and can throw it right back. this place just burns my hide sometimes.

[redqueen]

9. Heh, and you reminded me of this...

http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4557

[seabeyond]

13. so fuckin true. so so true. i hear it in the voices all the fuckin time. RL, too.

[MadrasT]

19. Spot on. n/t

[seabeyond]

22. they are picking on me. i got privilege and everything. and they wont play the game like they are

suppose to.

i am entitled, i am.

[seabeyond]

7. here is the jury. alerters reasoning, redq. she dared to come back to du after a break. disgusting

At Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:27 PM, an alert was sent on the following post:

Feminist funnies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125526252

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

What is misandrist crap such as this doing on the Home page where any visitor can click on it. Redqueen is well known for her anti-male screeds and belittling of the male gender. OP's like this on the Home page makes DU look bad to any visitor that may click on her posts, should they make it to the Home page. I can imagine the uproar if someone posted an equivalent anti-woman OP equivalent to this. Redqueen would be front and center screaming misogyny.
The Redqueen was gone for over a month and DU settled down to something resembling civilized. Well, she is back to her old tricks of shit stirring for stirrings sake.
Yeah, I know I can Trash this thread, but what about visitors that are not members? What are they to think?

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:33 PM, and voted 4-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: HoF on the main page. Auto-hide. *yikes*
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Over the top, though I understand the pov to an extent. This just seems divisive.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

[Tuesday Afternoon]

12. #4 lacks the courage of their convictions.

[redqueen]

14. "anti-male screeds and belittling of the male gender"

And there was no misandry in it... seriously whoever sent that is... special.

I wish they'd have had the courage of their convictions and pointed out for us where the misandry was. That would've been amusing.

[seabeyond]

18. maybe... maybe one could construe a tad in the oh... that would be a father. though. the reality

is, now getting preg yet being yoru baby would be the father.

the only one that could kinda sorta maybe a little bit be construed in taht direction if one worked really really hard at it.

[boston bean]

23. Just the use of "male gender" makes me want to hurl.

The privilege in just using that terminology is fucking blasting through!

They are of the "male" "gender" how the fuck dare anyone for pointing out feminist issues!

[boston bean]

15. I had someone say something similar to me here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3673290

[redqueen]

20. Wow. nt

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opiate69 (8,182 posts)

70. Oh, I don't know about all that....

Seems to me we had plenty of decent discussions during the two blissfully quiet months (give or take) that your resident loudmouths took their sabbatical. Unlike your little echo-chamber, which - if memory serves - was as quiet as a graveyard during that period. But hey, they're back now, so you guys can all go back to your usual M. O. of haranguing and brow-beating the rest of DU (and the Men's Group in particular) in order to try to get your pound of outrage-flesh.

[seabeyond]

21. disgusting. nothing like a whole lot of CS and TOS rules broken in that insulting little post. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

26. I would have ended up with a hidden post if that had been said to me.

[Squinch]

36. Imagine if the hidden OP was as nasty as that post!

[MadrasT]

17. Again with the false equivalencies.

I can imagine the uproar if someone posted an equivalent anti-woman OP equivalent to this.

THERE IS NO EQUIVALENCY UNTIL WOMEN HAVE FULL EQUALITY AND ARE NOT TREATED AS "LESS THAN".

And again with the "misandrist" as if it's a real thing.

[seabeyond]

24. oppressions of groups... that one is just too subtle and nuanced to expect some.... SOME men

to get.

we see it repeatedly when talking white privilege too. that always amazes me listening to the conversation why it is so hard for the men.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. "...Any visitor can click on it"! "What are they to think?"!

May the eyes of the innocents remain protected
from the feminist funnies and the terrifying HoF.

[MadrasT]

11. Hard to fathom why that was hidden.

I couldn't find anything objectionable (unless perhaps if a person who is guilty of some of the behaviors described took offense to hearing the truth, in which case a mirror would be a better tool than the "hide it" vote).

I rec'd it after it was hidden just because. I love that we can do that.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. I Rec'd it, too. It is obvious, to me, that Redqueen is being alert stalked and jury shopped.

[seabeyond]

25. ya. i want to rec it a couple more times. nt

[Tuesday Afternoon]

27. Rec it to the cows come home

[seabeyond]

28. at last, we only get ONE vote. you, lol. nt

[Benton D Struckcheon]

29. New here, relatively speaking, didn't know you could rec something

after it was hidden. Just did it. Read that last night, didn't find a thing wrong with it (yes, I'm a man, that name isn't my real one of course...). I was amazed when I clicked on the link and found that you guys were talking about that one.
Extraordinary. I'm actually shocked this can go on here. I'm even more surprised a majority of jurors agreed with the POS who alerted it.

[seabeyond]

30. "I'm actually shocked this can go on here." i am too. i really should not be. but, i am. adm worked

so so so hard at being fair on du2. i totally respected that desire to be fair, even though they did not always get it right, they got it right enough to let us know how damn hard they worked at that. it made du beyond special, compared to a net of misogyny.

so yes, i too am shocked what is allowed, and after two years, and a clear message from adm, i should not be. but, i am.

and welcome to du.

[historylovr]

31. Wow, really? I didn't see the thread, but wow.

My husband would have laughed at those funnies.

[DURHAM D]

32. I don't think anyone banned from a protected group

should be allowed to Alert on an OP in said group. Perhaps someone should make an inquiry to the owners.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

34. I totally agree with that. The system could use a slight tweaking here and there ...

[intaglio]

33. What a load of scared mice there were on that jury

and what sort of petulant brat made the alert.

Your post was fine - especially compared to certain Mens Group threads. Just glad that they've banned me from there.

[Texasgal]

37. It's only because Red and Sea are back

the alerter cannot stand that. I guess the men's group has fallen to the wayside?

[Squinch]

38. I just discovered that you can still rec an OP after it is hidden. So I rec'd it.

If you haven't rec'd it yet, go on back and do so. Let's see if we can get the hidden thread onto the greatest list.

[niyad]

45. I just discovered that little fact about being able to rec a hidden post. what fun!!

[ismnotwasm]

39. What the HELL is going on?

I've been gone for a couple of days. Ugh.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

40. Hey,

link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125526252


the really sad thing is: I think a woman alerted ... could be wrong.

[ismnotwasm]

42. Oh FFS

Misandry? That's what they got out of that? Lord lord.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

43. ikr. ain't it a hoot? but, my big thing is this:

why is it that all kinds of tasteless obviously misogynistic jokes/posts can be made on here and nothing is done but, let there be a shadow of misandry (really? that post was misandry? really?) and BOOM down comes the ban hammer and I would love to see the gender divide on the votes and the alerter. No names even.

[seabeyond]

41. ya. well. it has been an odd couple days. really, lol. nt

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

44. If so...

...one wasn't me.