History of Feminism
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NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Girls. You think you know what we want, girls.
Pink and pretty it's girls.
Just like the 50's it's girls.
You like to buy us pink toys and everything else is for boys and you can always get us dolls and we'll grow up like them... false.
It's time to change. We deserve to see a range. 'Cause all our toys look just the same and we would like to use our brains. We are all more than princess maids.
Girls to build the spaceship, Girls to code the new app,
Girls to grow up knowing they can engineer that.
Girls. That's all we really need is Girls. To bring us up to speed it's Girls.
Our opportunity is Girls. Don't underestimate Girls.
http://www.goldieblox.com/
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am sending this to my niece and her little .... girl. lol
and the lyrics. thanks.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Stealing..
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Gothmog
(145,176 posts)Thanks for sharing
penultimate
(1,110 posts)Cool video.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)tech3149
(4,452 posts)I learned before I was 10 to NEVER underestimate girls. It's not only painful, it's a waste.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Welcome to my future sister engineers! From me BSEE 1976 and my sister BSCE(Paper) 1979
BTW, I HATE pink. Comes from living in a pink bedroom for 9 years....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and i hear ya.
llmart
(15,536 posts)They can stop with the princess crap. I'm so sick of it - parents buying their little girls clothes with "princess" on it. Yuck.
My daughter is 38 now but I got her a doll for Christmas one year when she was about 4 and it didn't get played with very much. However, she was outside all the time collecting acorns for the squirrels, filling the pockets of her jacket with dirt, and generally getting dirty, aka "having fun".
In the 1950's I was the biggest "tomboy" (not sure I like that term, but that's what I was called), always trying to keep up with my three brothers.
I worked at a law school where more than 50% of the graduates were women.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to the teacher. lol
and ya. outside.
my nieces. one out of four was a girly girl. the other three were outside playing with sons.
i wouldnt have it any other way
so damn tired of the conditioned roles to make us less.
sheshe2
(83,751 posts)Thanks, seabeyond~
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)progressoid
(49,988 posts)anywhere!
ancianita
(36,053 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)Her most favorite toy as a child was a set of Lincoln Logs.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)to be sure to type out on my fb page that i linked it to, all the reasons the niece likes the video. i cannot wait to hear what this 6 yr old says. she has grown so much since about three and me saying.... eeeeew, princess. lol
Girls! Reminds me of my great nephew at school one day on the playground. Boys were bragging on their grandma's. "Yeah but, my grandma is a _____." When it come great nephews turn, with a big confident grin from ear to ear... "Yeah, but my Grandma is a rocket scientist!" And it was the truth! Times, they-are-a-changing, girls.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)because it's true. Little sis is an aerospace engineer and is talented in so many other ways. I'm so proud of her.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)I never was good at calculating statistics either. But I have a great interest and appreciation in thier results!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Not to mention these girls did not do all that rube goldberg stuff by themselves.
I've got a better idea, if you're the parent of a girl. Turn off the girlie TV shows. Do not buy them magazines for girls. Buy them the regular building toys that are mostly bought for boys. Send them to summer camps that involve doing things of many different sorts, but are not just girlie things.
Read to them from books about science and nature when they are very young, and buy them more of the same as they get older. Don't ever suggest to them that they can't do math and science.
Of course, if your girl is a talented ballerina, do encourage her in what she's best at.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)But even more interesting is that anybody made this at all.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)supposedly these girls did a cool boy-type, engineering sort of thing. But it takes less than 10 seconds of thought to realize these girls would not have been able to do that by themselves. And it's the tool kit for girls that I actually find offensive.
I'd rather a video that shows some girl pushing aside her brother and playing with his construction set. Okay, so I shouldn't encourage the implicit bullying, but still.
I'm still annoyed that when I was a little girl in the 1950's I was not allowed to play with my brothers' Erector Set.
Ok.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)It really is a patronizing ad. Even if they had pretended the girls had done it themselves by not showing us the behind the scenes stuff, in the end there is a "separate but equal" aspect that really bothers me.
It is up to parents to ignore the princess bullshit and raise their girls to be people, not just princess girls. You simply don't have to buy any of that crap.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)hear.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I am right there on the same page. I don't know why we have to make stuff into something society perceives as "girly" to make it OK for girls to use it.
llmart
(15,536 posts)you and I would get along famously Every time I read your posts I think "Hmmm....if she lived closer I'd probably want to be her friend."
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)If you're ever going to be in Santa Fe, give me a holler.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)CEO is listed as having her Mechanical Engineering degree from Stanford. And the toys represent what she wishes she had when growing up.
I am biased in that the Erector set was my favorite. But I don't think there is only one way to ignite a child's interest in Engineering.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)She could have used the ones made for boys, or played with the Erector set and so on.
This just makes the ghetto that much more acceptable. "Oh, yes, girls can do these things. Let's give them their very own tool set!"
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Stuckinthebush
(10,845 posts)Sheila - you are correct with your critical look at this advertisement. Good eye.
It is a very good message that needs to be reiterated, however.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)A Rube Goldberg health care system. Single Payer NOW!
tblue
(16,350 posts)Those pink tea-set stereotypes don't fit. Girls here wouldn't even recognize them. The young women I know are not intimidated by anything or anybody. They are fiercely competitive scholars and they win regional and national academic honors. It's now a fact that more girls in the US go to college and get higher degrees. Generally, girls tend to exhibit the traits of an 'ideal student,' and that serves them well. (I teach, and there IS a gender difference.) So sometimes I worry about boys, especially when it's assumed they don't need attention and encouragement. A lot of boys, especially in poorer communities, really do, though they have a harder time seeking help, and there aren't many institutions making sure boys get what they need.
In my family we girls were pushed to go to college while my brother was not. It was assumed women needed the education to get a decent paying job, but a man could get by without it. It wasn't fair on my dad's part and it has made a glaring difference in all of our lives. This was typical of black families back in the day. I do think the needs of young men are recognized more these days, thank goodness. I'm all for helping girls succeed, but our young men need us too. One gender is not better or more important than another. Gender pride is great but you don't see boys doing videos saying how wonderful we boys are (implying you're not).
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Young men, for a variety of reasons are either not going or failing in college.
http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2013/03/27/college-graduation-gender-salaries/
For the black communities, it's even more complicated and a larger conversation--but still something that needs to be discussed and problem solved.
http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)my boys had in school.
at first i gently guided teaches to have a higher expectation of my boys. by fourth grade i was DEMANDING that they have a higher expectation with the explanation that if they had a higher expectation, they would meet it. or at least get closer to it than with excuses of .... boys will be boys.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)And men deserve to go through life without heterosexist masculinities to impede their success. Good job Mom!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and in this journey, THEY get to figure out what being a man is.
yup
boy will BE men
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)And the articles you reference are interesting indeed.
At this point, I can only speculate about the reasons that young men have so lost focus, but would wonder about some combination of video games, violent TV with images that change every one or two seconds, porn, overly intense expectations from parents (that can never be met) leading to burnout, poor socialisation, and a host of other things.
Lots more thought on this, but must run.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i jest. cause though i am demanding, i am also accepting. my oldest says i am the toughest of tough as a parent in some things and the easiest damn parent in others.
balance.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)in middle school and a little younger, until about junior in high school, there was such peer pressure to being stupid. my boys fought that regularly. not other kids, but that expectation and mentality.
ismnotwasm
(41,977 posts)Thanks for your input
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)antics, energy, and ingenuity.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)sugoii