Occasionally a blatant misogynist is shown the door...

[hlthe2b]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=126308&sub=trans

Not trying to start meta grave-dancing thread, but simply to note that Skinner appears to have "heard" from many in this particular instance and has responded accordingly..




edited for typo

[seabeyond]

1. a lot wrong with that poster. one point. to continually call two men "she, her" knowing full well

posters are men says a hell of a lot. regardless of him knowing, and being repeatedly told, he would call two posters.... she, or her.

who does that? that they think the ultimate insult is to call a man a woman. like the two posters he chose to do this give a shit. they are not misogynists. it does not bother them. the only thing it did was show an immaturity and clear evidence of misogyny that he thought that was such a grand insult to these men.

[NuclearDem]

2. The stink of misogyny was strong on that one.

[BainsBane]

9. and an Olympic-size persecution complex

evident on that Facebook page.

[ismnotwasm]

3. Good nt

[mopinko]

4. the stink of the troll is on that one.

and a very good troll he was, too. always looking for a place to shred the fabric here.
goooood fucking riddance.

[ismnotwasm]

5. Yeah truth to tell

He was OOT obnoxious but I just looked through his journal, and I would side with troll. Not that he was over fond of women.

[TDale313]

6. Not sorry to see that. N/T

[Nay]

7. Well, well! That person was especially irksome. Glad to see the TS.

[NV Whino]

8. 'Bout damn time for that one.

[BainsBane]

10. Someone has to work hard to get PPR'd for misogyny around here

and that member did.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

16. +1

[Squinch]

11. That is a grave I will happily dance upon...

I checked in and saw this, which was nice...

...but I am still waiting for a response to my "Ask the Administrators" post in which I ask for an answer to Pitbullgirl's question: so if someone is polite and posts anti-gay or racist comments, they should be allowed to stand on DU? And if not, why are anti-choice posts so readily tolerated? What is the difference?

I note many from this group are still waiting for replies to their "Ask the Administrators" posts. They don't seem to have any answers for us. Wonder why that is (she asks sarcastically.)

[hlthe2b]

12. Controversy-averse??? (and I guess we are all "controversial")

But, yes, I'd hoped for at least some kind of reply as well.

[MadrasT]

13. This has not gone unnoticed (by me). n/t

[DURHAM D]

14. In December of 2012 many asked for correction of the TOS re: sexism.

We never got a response.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12565203

wymen symen

[BainsBane]

15. Give that one up

If there isn't an answer in a day, there won't ever be. You can try reposting, but the old question won't be addressed.

[Rowdyboy]

17. As an added benefit, it opens a spot on my Jury Blacklist....

It was LONG past time for this one.

[gollygee]

18. You know

People can post that they are opposed to affirmative action or don't believe that white privilege exists politely, or sometimes not so politely, and stay here and not have their posts hidden. I see that as pretty parallel to being anti-choice and staying. So I don't really think there's a difference there.

There might very well be the same kind of thing happening with homophobic and transphobic posts. You can't say you're opposed to same-sex marriage, but I've seen posts saying that transwomen shouldn't be able to use women's rooms.

I don't think it's just sexism that's tolerated.

[Squinch]

19. Well...

First, homophobic posts shouldn't be tolerated on a site that calls itself progressive, any more than anti-choice posts. The tolerance of homophobic posts doesn't validate the tolerance for anti-choice posts. It just means DU is doubly wrong.

For your other analogies, when someone says that they are opposed to affirmative action or they don't believe white privilege exists, those are very different from saying "we need to outlaw abortion."

I have no problem with someone saying, "I don't believe in abortion" as long as they are speaking for themselves. I will disagree and discuss, as I will disagree and discuss with someone who is against affirmative action, or who denies white privilege.

A more accurate analogy to the statement "we need to end abortion rights" would be much more extreme than denial of white privilege or arguments against affirmative action. It would be more along the lines of someone saying, "we need to end the self-determination rights of minorities. We need to overturn Civil Rights legislation." That's very, very different.

But when someone on DU joins the strengthening ranks of people who say "we need to outlaw abortion," they are advocating taking away the self-determination, the basic civil rights, of half the population.

They are saying that the state should dictate how the bodies of half the population are used, against the will of those who inhabit those bodies.

They are consigning people to poverty, underemployment and astonishing mental anguish from a thousand different sources.

And right now, that basic civil right to self-determination is being assaulted from all sides, and the assaults are gaining strength at an alarming speed. A site that contributes to the voice and power of those assaults has no right to call itself progressive.

[gollygee]

20. I agree it shouldn't be tolerated here

I just don't think it's accurate to say that racist and homophobic posts aren't also tolerated here.

[seabeyond]

21. i hate to do the comparison thing. and anymore i try not. the thing is. on du.

racism will have more vocal yell against it and easier to be juried and easier to get the person kicked off. and yes, there are still racist comments left standing.

homophobia will be less than racism, but more so the person will be attack, by community stand, .... maybe... nah. but, i think administration takes it more seriously.

sexism/misogyny is so ingrained in both genders and literally the fun and play for men (unlike the other two ism) that i think there is almost a belief if really treated like the other two (and i think this is why homophobia is not gone after as much), then so many would be off the board. they are not about to do that. the misogyny has to be huge, and often and in your face.

so. i do not often do a comparison cause people that are seeing the racism rightfully get angry. i get that. i would too. and people that see more of the homophobia allowed to stand rightfully get angry, and i so so get that. but the reality is, .... women are in a different place than the other two. women participate in this also. it is much less defined. maybe what i am saying.

[gollygee]

22. Women are involved in it too - it is different in that way

I've just seen a lot of racism here at DU lately, well since the whole Zimmerman thing. Too much for me to feel comfortable with "if this were a black/white issue. . . " They aren't all getting hidden. I believe WE here in this group would hide them, but there are plenty of Zimmerman supporters, people upset about Oprah looking at an expensive purse she never bought, etc. There is a very vocal minority of really sexist posters at DU, but I think the group of racist posters is bigger. Maybe not as vocal, but there seem to be a lot more of them.

[gollygee]

23. Although

This rape-porn thread threw me for a loop. Making rape look sexy doesn't feed rape culture and make people more likely to rape? It's like advertising for it.

[seabeyond]

25. not only make rape sexy, but normalize it as a healthy form of porn to enjoy.

yes.

that was another point i wanted to make about oprah. a lot of those in the rape thread, or any other thread defending the sexism, they were in the oprah threads crying out about her extravagance.

[seabeyond]

24. " women participate in this also." yes. i made a huge clarification on this.

how many gays participate in their own homophobia. how many blacks participate in their own racism. i think that is a huge difference.

as far as oprah? yes racism, but i think the outrage was as much cause she is woman. when hearing male black athletes or entertainers spend money like that, crickets. it is the fact that a woman is doing so well, and something frivilous as a purse.

zimmerman. point. you are right. i think right on. thank you for bringing that point up. i agree.

[Squinch]

27. I think I draw the line where a poster is saying

"I believe X, so therefore you no longer have the right to decide what happens to your body."

Zimmerman supporters would certainly be on the wrong side of my line. And the fact that Zimmerman supporters were not booted makes DU triple-y wrong.

I hate the argument that Oprah shouldn't be allowed to look at the bag, and I fought those saying it in those threads, but I wouldn't automatically boot them. Likewise the people lately saying that abortion should be rare. I disagree strongly with putting that semantic limit on access, I hate the idea of it, but they are not saying, "you must do what I say with your body."

[BainsBane]

26. I agree there is far too much racism

and in typical fashion, people refuse to acknowledge that's what it is.