History of Feminism
Related: About this forumYoung Girls Say That Sexism Is Part Of Their Daily Lives
The organisations Equality For Girls report surveyed more than 1,200 girls and young women aged 7 to 21, and have called their findings a wake-up call and a disturbing insight into the state of equality for girls in the UK.
The survey revealed that 87% of the 11 to 21-year-olds surveyed said they thought women were judged based on their appearance, and not their abilities.
And 60% of the 16 to 21-year-olds said theyve felt patronised or made to feel stupid because theyre female.
Disturbingly, most of the 13-year-olds questioned said they had experienced sexual harassment.
Of the entire 13 to 21 age bracket, 28% had experienced unwanted touching and sexual attention, with 26% experiencing unwanted attention and stalking. A further 51% revealed theyd been objected to sexual jokes and taunts, and more than three-quarters said they found this behaviour threatening if they were by themselves.
Young girls are also already worrying about how sexism with affect the career path:
Girls believe that motherhood still disadvantages women in the workplace, and almost half of those aged 11 to 21 worry that having children will negatively affect their career (46%). A similar number think that employers at least to some extent prefer to employ men over women (43%). Half worry about the pay gap between men and women (50%), rising to 60% among 16- to 21-year-olds.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesevilla/young-girls-say-that-sexism-is-a-part-of-their-daily-lives
chervilant
(8,267 posts)research shows four of five girls under age 18 agree that a boyfriend 'has the right to slap them if they've done something wrong.'
Also, soft porn -- aka, romance novels, typically featuring a 'diamond in the rough' guy who just needs the gentle touch of his true love to shine -- remains the most popular genre among women.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)Any substantive change in girls' attitudes requires close monitoring of the measurers and the media that convey them. Otherwise, talk about it isn't really worth much but scaremongering, which, along with so much else, women put up with enough already.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)But, if you'd like a list of suggested reading, I'll be happy to assist.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)basic standard of claims. Of course, I can do my own research. But since you're the one to claim it, the burden of backing it up is on you. That makes you credible and me more willing to repeat your claim and numbers.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)at a certain point we realize it is a derailing technique. and why waste our time. but, i did waste my time. yet.... it is ignored. go figure.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)links provided for you
perfect example.
now, ... go away
ancianita
(36,190 posts)research, is all.
Go away? Okay, then.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)but I've done advocacy for survivors of relationship violence for over 35 years. The statistic I shared is from a peer-reviewed, journal article I used for my thesis, and it is packed in a box with hundreds of other journal articles. I regret that I am not inclined to dig it out for you.
ancianita
(36,190 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)I hope that you are interested in this research because you plan to help promote equality and fight the systemic oppression that is patriarchy...
ancianita
(36,190 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)but the last time i went looking for it, it disappeared from the nets. i do not know how that works, but i find that consistent. let me see if i can find it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Only Psychos Think Rape is OK...Right?
Societal Attitudes Supporting Rape
- A survey of 6,159 college students enrolled at 32 institutions in the U.S. found the following: (ref 4)
· 54% of the women surveyed had been the victims of some form of sexual abuse; more than one in four college-aged women had been the victim of rape or attempted rape;
· 57% of the assaults occurred on dates;
· 73% of the assailants and 55% of the victims had used alcohol or other drugs prior to the assault;
· 25% of the men surveyed admitted some degree of sexually aggressive behavior;
· 42% of the victims told no one.
- In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances. (ref 5)
- A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found ref 5)
· 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, "spent a lot of money" on the girl;
· 31% of the boys and 32% of the girls said it was acceptable for a man to rape a woman with past sexual experience;
· 87% of boys and 79% of girls said sexual assault was acceptable if the man and the woman were married;
· 65% of the boys and 47% of the girls said it was acceptable for a boy to rape a girl if they had been dating for more than six months.
- In a survey of male college students:
· 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it (ref 6,7).
· One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.(ref 6,7)
- In another survey of college males: (ref 8)
· 43% of college-aged men admitted to using coercive behavior to have sex, including ignoring a woman's protest, using physical aggression, and forcing intercourse.
· 15% acknowledged they had committed acquaintance rape; 11% acknowledged using physical restraints to force a woman to have sex.
- Women with a history of rape or attempted rape during adolescence were almost twice as likely to experience a sexual assault during college, and were three times as likely to be victimized by a husband. (ref 9)
- Sexual assault is reported by 33% to 46% of women who are being physically assaulted by their husbands.(ref 10)
http://www.uic.edu/depts/owa/sa_rape_support.html
Chalco
(1,311 posts)she told me that the days of women's lib were over, that everything had been resolved and men and women
were equal and that I needed to stop talking about the disparity.
Then, she goes to college and during the first semester she and others in her major are given a tour of the various companies in the city that is the number 2 spot for people in her major to be employed. After the tour, she called me...devastated.
She said "Mom, you were right. You were right."
"About what?" I asked.
"About the need to keep fighting for women."
"Why?" I asked.
"On the tour, I saw that almost all of the bosses and employees were men, at least 95%. I am so depressed."
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)other hand always acknowledge the sexism and misogyny.
your post was interesting. thanks for sharing your experience with your daughter
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)just walking into their sexuality, vulnerable and inexperienced. the cowards know likely as the girl ages, she will turn the table on him and wont be nearly as fun in the intimidation and humiliation of the harassment
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)here on du might actually consideration this study instead of dismissing so they can stand with da men. there really is much more to this than protecting their porn. like so fuckin much more.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)I know I shouldn't say that, as they are victims of the patriarchy as much as anyone else. But too bad, I still think they're pathetic. I hope they enjoy the little pats on the head they receive from the guys - they give up a lot to get them.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)that would be the point. thank you. i was reading a post talking about a woman who voted whatever her father and husband told her to. *gasp* the outrage, condemnation. i see this no different but the flip side.
i bet she would argue she too is a feminist choosing to do as she does for her reasons.
xulamaude
(847 posts)If a woman makes the 'choice' to be employed in porn or quit her paid work to focus on raising the children she has borne (but certainly not if she's a single mother who 'chose' to have them without being financially secure!) then that's just dandy but if she makes the 'choice' to do as her men expect her to do then that choice is completely invalid because 'her' men are right wingers. Or something.
Because feminism is all about a woman's choice now right? She has the equal rights now to choose what she wants to do right? But no - it's just a different set of men expecting her to 'choose' what they expect her to do.
And it's patently obvious for anyone who cares to see.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i can acknowledge and know darn well that what i created in this home for all of us to live, in manys ways was anti feminism. i acknowledge and recognize. it is not painful. it was my choice. i recognized then and recognize now that the choice was counter to what i fight. in recognizing, i addressed things in raising the boys, things that one who does not recognize/acknowledge, that i hope will leave an imprint on the boys. and because of my choice will have to live with repercussions. i get that.
it doesnt make what feminism is saying to be wrong.
xulamaude
(847 posts)your choice
I wouldn't say that your choice to make your family home and raise your kids and invest in your partnership with your SO (and all the stresses that come along with that!) is counter to what you fight at all.
And just like you don't have to be a porn star or a president or a CEO or what have you to be a feminist it doesn't make the rest of us fighting for the rights of women to be free individuals any less feminist.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)stay at home, the issues that arise that can cause a stay at home problems, is very real. so, though i made these choices, what feminist say about stay at home is correct to. and taking that into account, just having the knowledge has allowed me to protect myself.
the point. choose porn. but, what feminist say about working in porn, and how it effects society can also be true.
i am not dissing me.
i am not dissing someone who works in porn.
talk about bringing emotion into the conversation. so often, as women, we are said to be "hysterical" or emotional. (ya, the guys still like to innocently use that). but, the way i see the issue is very compartmentalized and lack in the emotional element. and it is those i am discussing the issues with, that allow the emotion to get in the way. or even judgment.
judgment of a mere word. that they are so emotional over the issue, that the definition of a mere word, and judging the word as bad.
i find it so fuckin funny.
xulamaude
(847 posts)That word gets me to thinking that it's been a long, long time since I've heard it used and just the way you have: a separation of emotion from everything else.
Back in the day men used it (compartmentalization) as... the reason.... they could use pornography without thinking about their moms, sisters, wives or daughters. LOL
And again, they would have it every which way: that women are emotional and they're not, they really have empathy for women and women don't because they won't allow them to make their choices. Or something
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)...could be paraphrased so appropriately to fit those sentiments: "If ye love...the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
...and: "For in the end, freedom is a personal and lonely battle; and one faces down fears of today so that those of tomorrow might be engaged." - Alice Walker < http://jameslogancourier.org/?itemid=1503 >
ismnotwasm
(42,022 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)think it would fit on my sig line. lol. i like it even better having read it a second time
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)glad to hear it
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)And so appropriate.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,483 posts)The more I read of what others have said, the more I believe that someone has said something much more eloquently than I could ever hope to. I am occasionally pleased when I notice a situation and remember a fitting quote.
Sam Adams and Alice Walker... that would be a great pair with which to have lunch.
BTW, love your sig.
There's two other quotes I like: "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." and "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)My 29 year old daughter, 3 months pregnant, said that recently to her 32 year old husband of 4 years. Wow, good for you, my daughter. It is your body, and you life.
It doesn't end with unmarried 16-21 year olds. Hell, I am 65, married 40 years, and said to my husband recently, "You cannot force ME to die the way YOU want to". It doesn't end. The more things change; the more things stay the same.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i am always so patient with husband, but finally said the other day. you have trusted me to drive your children for two decades. i drove for two decades, without your help prior to meeting you. YET, when you get in my car, you are just sure i cannot navigate my way out of a paper bag.
what gives....
life is a trip. hockey. kiss on your daughters forehead for saying.... stop. lol
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)when they have medical professionals, women, mothers, telling them otherwise? My SIL's own mother herself told him to chill out and take the advice of his wife's OB/GYN, and what she, and me, have said. Why do men think they know everything there is to know about females reproduction, pregnancy, and birth?
Even worse when these males are legislators and think they know it all too.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)father knows best, women are emotions, not critical thinkers and on and on and on.
privilege and entitlement.