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Related: About this forumMen’s Rights Redditor explains the mate choice process of the human female
Im pretty sure that feminists arent the ones expecting men to pay for dates, so Im not sure why feminists should be held to account for something theyre not doing, but in any case, the Mens Rightsers dont seem much interested in hearing explanations from feminists. No, theyre rather offer their own theories.
Enter a new convert to Mens Rightsism called MrKocha, who enlists the aid of SCIENCE to offer his own explanation of this terrible date injustice:
"I see a lot of problems with every day inequality between the sexes in mate interaction in various areas."
Attention, human female. Initiating mate interaction protocol.
"First being, the average female has vastly different motivations in her mate selection. How much is nature vs nurture is up for debate, but I tend towards believing millions of years of evolution probably have left a significant mark there."
Huh. What are the odds that these millions of years of evolution just happen to line up with whatever regressive assertions about women sorry, females this dude is about to make?
"Anyway her mate choice process often involves looking for signs of genetic fitness in male (attractive appearance, displayed dominance socially or physically, risk taking, higher social status), and weighing this against his ability to invest in her long term future: such as pay her dinner/bills). Paying for dinner displays two things: one a willingness to self sacrifice for women, and two the financial resources to continue to do so."
Lets see. Human beings for the majority of their existence on this planet were hunters and gatherers. Even if we assume that men mainly did the hunting and women mainly did the gathering, the gathered food made up the bulk of the diet. So really, men on dates should expect women to bring them large salads in return for the carcass of a small mammal.
http://manboobz.com/2013/11/25/mens-rights-redditor-explains-the-mate-choice-process-of-the-human-female-and-also-why-she-wont-pay-for-dinner/
Cleita
(75,480 posts)because young girls usually didn't have jobs or poor paying ones so if a young man wanted to go to a movie or out to dinner, with his girl friend, he had to pay because she couldn't. Previous to that marriages were pretty much arranged and any courtship was conducted in parlors, or at social events, where no money exchange was involved.
As an elderly widow, the few times I have dated, I offered to pay my way, dutch treat style. The gentlemen I dated have accepted the offer because they are also on Social Security like me. Seems to me that dutch treat should be the future of dating or if a person wants to do something that is too expensive for one of the pair, then they should pay but I don't think gender should be an issue.
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Men shouldn't be expected to pay, in fact it's problematic. I get individual circumstances, not gender related but income related.
I found the Reddtters explanation here amusing, as it ignores anthropology.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)It's not the hard to figure out.
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Fascinating, although I'm loving seeing so many men repelled by the ad. The apologists haven't show up yet--if they even do
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4113651
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)The rest will turn up soon. They always do. One has been going all over the site arguing that a woman whose rapist was acquitted should pay for the "false accusation."
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Ick
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)It's a lost cause. There are too many people who think the Nixon and Reagan administrations were too radical in regard to women's rights.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)yes, indeed.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)It works well yeah we get looks but who cares
ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)"Ohhh those women love big doods with muscles and stuff, and he has to have a lot of money and a nice car! Also, he's a major asshole! Too bad I'm just too nice and perfect!" Rinse and repeat. Blah blah
Notice that these dorks always refer to women like they're a lab specimen or something? It's weird.