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BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:23 PM Feb 2014

Why The Bachelor is the most offensively sexist show on television

I don't watch this show, but I understand the gist of it. (Okay, I confess to having watched in years ago, but not since). Anyway, the homophobic bachelor Juan Pablo also turns out to enjoy shaming women with whom he becomes intimate.

Watch the video here:

http://jezebel.com/everyone-hates-bachelor-juan-pablo-1515802741

Clare and Juan Pablo have a special connection or something, though by the looks of the preview for next week, that connection will soon be broken. The night of the group date, Juan Pablo decided that Clare was worthy of some bathing suit alone time, and they canoodled in the pool of his private suite, just like they had in a hot tub in a previous episode. "I took her to my suite. I just wanted to have a good time with her, make her feel special. Let her know that I feel comfortable with her," Juan Pablo said. This was one of many times he would use the word "comfortable" with regard to his actions with Clare; she's considered a bit uptight and needed to be brought out of her shell or something.

Clare, emboldened by the special attention he was giving her, took the bull by the horns and, like Courtney had in Ben Flajnik's season, invited Juan Pablo to go in the ocean with her in the middle of the night. ("I just wanted to come and say thank you" = classic line.) While there's much debate over whether or not the two actually had sex in the those warm, Vietnamese waters, things were apparently hot and heavy enough to prompt Juan Pablo to reconsider whether it had been the right thing to do. During the Rose ceremony, Juan Pablo decided to take Clare aside and tell her that he wasn't sure that what they did was "fair" to the other girls, and that he was worried about the example he was setting for his daughter.

"That was good," he said to Clare, who was still brimming with joy over the whole affair, during one of two talks about the incident they would have. "But at the same time it was kind of a little weird for me." Juan Pablo then proceeded to not explain himself at all and make Clare feel terrible. Even after backtracking and saying she shouldn't be upset, that he was just trying to explain how he felt to her, Clare clearly felt terrible, given that she had just made an emboldened toast at the Rose Ceremony about "finding love, being loved, and making love." (She may have also been remembering and cursing herself for the comment she made about being so excited she felt like a baby giraffe with wobbly legs? Unclear.

. . .

Harrison is also typically pretty measured in his criticisms of people on the show, but after the episode aired, he called out the "bizarreness of [Juan Pablo's] actions" in an interview with TV Guide:

When she showed up he was fully into it like this is awesome and sexy and she was as happy as can be and then he turns around and treats her like all of a sudden she did something wrong and broke the rules. It was not only confusing, but it was borderline rude. We even told him as much, but he didn't see it that way. Even though he apologized later I don't think he really understood how cheap he made her feel. In my deliberation I said, "You're not getting this, you really hurt her feelings, you need to fix it and apologize." But there are cultural differences with him and things do get lost in translation and how it's interpreted. It's his perspective; it's not right or wrong. So it made for interesting conversations and I had to learn to stand back a little bit and respect that.

"Cultural differences" aside, Harrison clearly doesn't think much of the dude. "You've seen [chinks] in his armor already, but I wonder what people will now think about how he treats everyone and goes about things," he added. "But this is who he is and what he says and you'll see it, warts and all."

Even the producers of the most sexist show on television are embarrassed at Juan Pablo's sexism. Imagine, a guy who goes to a house to choose between thirty plus women, dating them all at the same time, being sexist? Whoda thunk it?
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Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
3. hmmm .... goes beyond duh ...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=derp

the whole show is just so derp-y. the premise is so obviously sexist and Juan is a Jerk.

I don't mean that you pulled a derp so much that it is derp-y to even have to say it.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
4. Yeah. True.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:38 PM
Feb 2014

But I recently had a conversation with someone about Game of Thrones. In my view, the Bachelor is way more sexist. The Real Housewives shows too because they show stereotypical images of women always at one another's throats.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
5. I have not seen Game of Thrones and can not speak to it's content but, even the title
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 11:47 PM
Feb 2014

-The Real Housewives- is so sexist as to be derpified unless it was an ironic twist title and the show was really about REAL houswives who would not even call themselves housewives except in an ironic humorous vein.

All these reality shows are just too derp-y. ugh. hated the concept.

although I did kinda dig Ozzy's first season: SHAAA-Ron!!

taking out the trash and all. Ozzy at home. that was kinda surreal.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
12. Ozzy was a natural for reality TV. A mumbling, half-coherent, (at the time) drunken wreck.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:58 PM
Feb 2014

I know he's not an unintelligent guy, and that he genuinely loves his wife, but they really made a one-man freak show out of him.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
14. yes, it is the explotation of Human Life of all of these "reality" shows that give me pause.
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 12:21 PM
Feb 2014

Ozzy took it with grace and -fuzzy- aplomb.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
6. He sounds like a piece of work.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:09 AM
Feb 2014
Instead, she got the easy-woman edit and a scolding about sexual propriety from a guy proudly wearing multiple women's spit.



Double standards? What double standards?
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. any half way reasonable person will recognize the slutification of woman.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:33 AM
Feb 2014

those that need to propel their sexuality above another gender will continue to reinforce the slutification. it is merely the inadequacy of the person that needs to feel an illusionary dominance in sexuality. the person is to be pitied. unfortunately, the mentality is continually preached to us, conditioning us, to identify as masculinity. we all lose.

JustAnotherGen

(31,820 posts)
9. I've never watched the show
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

This overview makes me even less inclined to channel surf to it. That aside - I've never been able to accept/understand the premise. It doesn't make sense to me. I don't understand (other than for trying to launch a celebutante career) why a woman would go on a television program and beg someone to like her - let alone pick her for marriage. And from standing in line at the grocery story and seeing the tabloids - these guys are never really 'fairy tale' princes.

I just can't relate to this.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
10. The most ludicrous part
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 04:50 PM
Feb 2014

is that after dating dozens of women at the same time and the guy finally narrows it down to one, he is supposed to propose to her. Now they haven't even been dating exclusively for a single day, yet now they are supposed to be getting married. I believe they have had two actual weddings result from the show. One many years ago when they actually had a bachelorette choose from among men. That couple has been married about ten years now. Then they just had one on TV recently where a male bachelor married a woman he chose.

Believe me, the only thing you are missing is a stunning display of the degradation of American culture.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
13. It's a bullshit fairy-tale spectacle. Nothing "real" about it whatsoever.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 08:01 PM
Feb 2014

I hate it as much as you do, but in a way I almost feel like we deserve it, collectively, for our stupidity and backwardness as a culture. "The Bachelor" merely vomits it back at us.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
11. i don't watch the show either but i saw the BS about setting an example for his daughter
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 06:33 PM
Feb 2014

i think it was on some late night show i saw it. i didn't see the rest of it in how he made her feel like she did something wrong. they focused on how he claimed to want to set an example for his daughter by not doing something but then doing it.

he seems like a real piece of shit but i'm not surprised after the anti gay comments.

and i'm tired of the "culture" excuse when it comes to certain things. he isn't some total foreigner. he is on a tv show in america .

and we know things like sexism are part of the culture all around the world. none of it is ok.

i just read up on him and he was actually born in ny but left for venezuela when he was 2 and came back to the US for college.

this isn't some random guy they picked out in another country who has never been anywhere outside.

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