i am so fuckin mad with this "legitimate rape" crap from atkin

[seabeyond]

Last edited Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:32 AM - Edit history (1)

the more time that goes by, the more mad i become.

whoopi, it is not rape rape. atkins "legitimate rape" . forceful rape. Ron Paul's quote about "honest rape."

"We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting." -- Warren Farrell

we all know what these fuckers are saying. per a discussion on du. there was a study where 39% of college girls had at one time said no, when really they meant yes. so of course the conversation devolves to.... see, some girls, what do you expect from us guys.

Raven has a thread...

Unless you have one, shut the fuck up!

i will not listen to another single man tell me what i need to do. whether on my side or not on my side.

Unless you have one, shut the fuck up!

*i just saw a commercial on tv of a young woman squirming on her seat, for vagina wipes.* WTF???? go to the fuckin doctor. really? i have had it.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. damn right on.

[roguevalley]

11. men get raped. it sucks majestically for anyone. but if more men had to face

what women face every single day of their lives, they would be singing a different tune. I can't remember when it wasn't on my mind to be careful and I'm old. Fuck conservatives, republican bowsers and the women that enable them.

[enough]

2. Don't forget Ron Paul's quote about "honest rape."

At least Dr. Paul agreed that the woman should have some recourse to treatment in the case of "honest rape." He would give her a shot of estrogen immediately.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/ron-paul-if-its-honest-rape-woman-should-g

[seabeyond]

3. thank you. i added. also one from mra leader that date rape is no fun now the guys can go to jail.

or some such rot. couldnt find that one.

[MadrasT]

4. Righteous rant, sea.

I have about had it with penis bearers trying to make rules about what is and what is not OK for women.

Just fucking stop it right now.

It's crazy making.

I have no patience anymore with men who whine about how bad they have it now. Sit down and shut the fuck up.

Nobody's making laws about your fucking bodies.

If you can't be in control of YOUR OWN PERSON/BODY, everything else pales by comparison. EVERY. FUCK. THING.

[seabeyond]

8. i am still pissed off. i dont think i have made a nice post all night.

and i have had to delete a lot before hitting post.

[Downwinder]

5. Is the corollary to this; Women don't get pregnant

unless they want to? That is the reason we don't need birth control.

Boy, do we need some sex education classes.

[Blue_Tires]

21. +1000

[ismnotwasm]

6. Creepy, isn't it?

I googled that POV, and found some anti-choice websites that slip that in, with all the reasons women who get raped rarely get pregnant. It was like swimming in a sewer. I don't care how pastel they make the background on those sites, they're still shit.

[seabeyond]

7. ya... been wondering about all the POV bullshit of late. i am seeing a lot of dots being connected

and it doesnt have a hell of a lot ot do with the left or the right.

[ChazII]

9. "legitimate rape"

Of all the stupid remarks every uttered by a politician this has to be the most stupid.

[seabeyond]

10. i mean, think about some creepy pig deciding a "legitimate" rape of a woman.

what kind of person would even think to utter such a disgusting phrase. not to mention the stupid that a woman shuts off a valve to not get preg. that is so fuckin stupid, it gets a laugh. but the legitimate garbage.

scream.....

we are hearing to much of this talk from men.

[redqueen]

12. Well you can't put all the blame on rapists, sea.

I mean... 39%!

What exactly which percentage of however many women were involved in that ONE study actually said is immaterial.

What matters is some of those those poor rapists were only trying to fulfill those silly women's fantasies! They were trying to make these women's dreams come true!

[seabeyond]

13. i was looking for the mra author when writing this OP about his rape comment. saw mra'rs up to 75%

of rape claims are false.

nah... nothing going on here.

i could not remember the mans name. do you?

[redqueen]

14. I remembered his first name is warren so I just searched for "warren date rape".

First result - Warren Farrell.


About that study...

They asked 610 women, and 239 for whatever reason said no when they'd rather have said yes.

Therefore, "date" rapists are blameless. I think that's how the logic works, anyway. It really makes no sense at all to me, seeing as how my opinion is "yes means yes" and if that's too complicated for you then you really should do other people a favor and just stay away from them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=7415

[seabeyond]

15. thanks.

"We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting." -- Warren Farrell

this is the one i wanted.

[Jeneral2885]

16. In the midst of debt and war

US politicians care to talk about reproduction and unwanted births as if the are Gods.

Sorry to know that.

[wildflower]

17. It especially stands out for me right now

Because of all the discussion I've been hearing about Julian Assange and whether the charges are "real."

It seems like it's time for a discussion in this country about what rape and coercion are. I think a lot of young women who have been growing up with mixed messages on this are afraid to report because they're not sure it's a legitimate assault.

[seabeyond]

18. absolutely. i have been pretty much keeping my mouth shut with that. but yes. fucker

narcissistic asshole. lol. right there with the defense of dsk and polenski

[MadrasT]

19. There are still WAY TOO MANY people.

Who think that it isn't actually rape unless you have a black eye to go with it.

[seabeyond]

20. honestly, i think there is a mad push promoting this. we had a couple decades it went in the other

direction. but i really feel the last half a decade and yes, the popularity of rape porn and rape on every mother fuckin show, rape as entertainment is taking us back.

[LiberalLoner]

22. Me too. I was in a class once decades ago in Georgia

College class, for adults who worked days, trying to get my degree.

Good old boys in the classroom, making comments when the film played showing a woman whose childhood was a nightmare of molestation by her father, including forced pregnancy by him.\

Good old boys giggled the whole film through, making comments...."She probably loved it" "Score!" (to the father for having gotten the daughter pregnant), "that's what little girls are for anyway."

Snicker snicker snicker.

I sat there without emotion. Certainly wasn't going to reveal my history to any of them. Felt shell-shocked by the comments. Felt like I was being raped all over again.

Went home that night and took a razor to myself. Still have white lines, scars, decorating my body from that night.

Same feeling listening to this crap from the Repuke Good Old Boys.

But today I took a bright red pastel chalk and drew with it. That was all. Just drew with it. No more carving on myself. But the feelings are the same.

This is hard on all of us who have ever been victims of rape. Hard on anyone who has any empathy for rape victims too probably.

The good old boys are still snickering and smug in their superiority and safety, aren't they?

Sometimes I pretend that I believe in Hell and I imagine what tortures might await those good old boys and I imagine that I get to watch.

[redqueen]

23. It still turns my stomach...

I rarely imagine their suffering anymore though.

I do want to stress it's not all good old boys. Child molesters (rapists) are not on just one side of the political aisle, not just adherents of one religion, or from any culture... they could be anyone. All you know for sure is it's overwhelmingly likely to be a man doing it.

[LiberalLoner]

24. True, I've seen apologists for incestual rape here on DU too. It upset me pretty badly.

Imagining (in great detail) their suffering is the only thing that gets me through some days.

[redqueen]

25. I hear you.

[seabeyond]

26. yes... hey,

i like how you have found alternatives dealing with your issues. huge ass thumbs up to that than the cutting.

as always, love you woman and so supportive of you.

last night a purposely offensive thread in GD. purposely. with the couple days of high emotion of all this was about as far as i could go. it was disturbing. lack of respect and sensitivity. agree with redq, it is not a party issue.

[LiberalLoner]

27. Love you back! :) I just have to hold out hope that things will get better, some day.