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Fri Dec 10, 2021, 04:38 PM Dec 2021

There are no statistics for gun violence attributed to non criminals . . .

I have wondered if all the gun violence increases (20-30% every year since 2014) is attributable to 'criminals' or perhaps to legal gun owners. I always hear from gunners that they must have a gun to protect themselves from criminals and if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns but I've wondered if the unfettered access to guns (15,000,000 new ones a year) might have something to do with it.

I can't find any stats on law abiding citizens adding to the gun violence epidemic. Then it occurred to me DUH! once ya' pull that shiny new protection out and shoot somebody wrongly, YOU'RE A CRIMINAL!

The folks over at 538 did some research and it seems the FBI is reporting a 'time to crime' decrease in crime guns. Time to Crime is the time between the NICS background check on a gun buy and when it shows up at a crime scene. They keep records on that stuff. It turns out that the 'time to crime' for guns less than a year old has increased 60% in 2021. The assumption is that guns that are less than 7 months old are still in the hands of the original buyer; the one that passed a background check proving they are not a criminal. The 3 month 'time to crime' has also increased dramatically.

This means that a big portion of the increase in gun violence isn't attributable to 'criminals' but to 'law abiding citizens' who became criminals with their new gun.

Who would have thought? The more law abiding citizens with guns the more law abiding citizens become criminals when they shoot someone.

Will someone protect me from the law abiding citizens?? Please??


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There are no statistics for gun violence attributed to non criminals . . . (Original Post) AndyS Dec 2021 OP
Thanks for posting this Ferryboat Dec 2021 #1


(951 posts)
1. Thanks for posting this
Fri Dec 10, 2021, 05:02 PM
Dec 2021

Will use this when advocating for sensible gun control.

Most responsible gun owners want more speed bumps in the process of purchasing firearms.

Couple of years ago some kid legally purchased a AR 15, went to a party sat in the driveway reading the instructions.

Then went inside.
Mukilteo, Wa.

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