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Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:31 PM

colorado house takes up two more gun bills

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DENVER - Proposals to change how people get concealed carry gun permits in Colorado and new restrictions on gun ownership for domestic-violence offenders will be up for consideration in the House.

The proposals scheduled for committee votes Thursday have already cleared the Senate.

Senate Bill 195 would require people seeking concealed carry permits to take gun training courses in person. People can currently take online courses.

Senate Bill 197 would require courts to order anyone subject to a domestic violence protection order or convicted of domestic violence to relinquish their guns within 24 hours. A judge could extend that to 72 hours. That bill also goes to the state House.


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i think it is entirely appropriate that people with domestic violence convictions relinquish their guns. i swore it was like that here already, but it appears i was wrong. abusers have no business with guns.

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Reply colorado house takes up two more gun bills (Original post)
fizzgig Mar 2013 OP
NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #1
bluedigger Mar 2013 #2
upaloopa Mar 2013 #3
JimDandy Mar 2013 #6
premium Mar 2013 #4
JimDandy Mar 2013 #5
rdharma Mar 2013 #8
fizzgig Mar 2013 #10
rdharma Mar 2013 #11
premium Mar 2013 #9
rdharma Mar 2013 #12
premium Mar 2013 #13
rdharma Mar 2013 #17
JimDandy Mar 2013 #18
rdharma Mar 2013 #7
Robb Mar 2013 #15
JimDandy Mar 2013 #19
freshwest Mar 2013 #14
guardian Mar 2013 #16

Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:37 PM

1. Both look like good sensible pieces of legislation. (nt)

 

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:43 PM

2. I support both.

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:48 PM

3. If there is no gun registry how do courts know they have all

the guns that a domestic violence perp owns?

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:59 PM

6. Exactly.

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Which is part of the reason I'm all for background checks, registration and licensing of guns as a package deal.

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:52 PM

4. Both appropriate,

 

and sensible. If you want a CCW, then you should have to take the course in person given by a state certified instructor.

It's a no brainer to have someone with a order of protection against them or convicted of DA to have to relinquish their firearms.

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:56 PM

5. Glad to see a few more good bills

coming to help with the gun violence problem here in Colorado.

Strawman purchases are another problem in need of a law that makes the strawman criminally, civilly and financially responsible for the devastation wrought on families by the wrongful death of a family member murdered by a gun in a strawman purchase.

It just came out last night that Evan Ebel, who murdered the pizza delivery employee and then the CO state prisons director, did so using a gun via a strawman purchase. The man they identified as the purchaser of the gun used to kill them imo is just as culpable as Ebel for their deaths.

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Response to JimDandy (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:18 PM

8. Some system of tracking and universal background checks needed! nt

 

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Response to rdharma (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:36 PM

10. universal background checks were signed into law last week

but, yes, i think there some be some system of tracking.

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Response to fizzgig (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:47 PM

11. Universal Checks

 

Signed into law in CO. But it has to be in every state in the union to be effective.

With NO exceptions.

CO put in an amendment that background checks were not required for the transfer of inherited weapons.



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Response to JimDandy (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:27 PM

9. Just a point of correction here,

 

it was a woman that did the straw purchase, that being said, CO. should charge her with being an accessory to murder as she knew he was barred from legally having a firearm.
If found guilty, throw her ass in prison for a long long time.

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Response to premium (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:52 PM

12. Her only defense is that she "didn't know"......

 

......... of the murderer's prison record.

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Response to rdharma (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:57 PM

13. Yeah, let's see how well that's going to over in a court of law.

 

I don't believe that she didn't know.

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Response to premium (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:45 PM

17. I don't believe that she didn't know.

 

I don't either. But the burden of proof is on the prosecution.

The murderer was in a neo-Nazi prison gang. I imagine they'll be pretty tight lipped and will encourage any possible witnesses to do likewise........ if you know what I mean.

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Response to premium (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:09 AM

18. I just assumed the gender since the person's name was Stevie.

Thanks for the correction. Charges as an accessory for her seem appropriate indeed.

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:16 PM

7. Concealed carry by online correspondence course?

 

Man! It's about time they stopped that farce!

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Response to rdharma (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:12 PM

15. It's worse than you think.

You can be from out-of-state and apply online for a CO CCW permit. And get it.

Yeah, that one needed stopping.

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Response to Robb (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 29, 2013, 12:18 AM

19. Online? How utterly ridiculous. Agreed--fix that immediately! n/t

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 03:56 PM

14. Glad to see Colorado taking this on.

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Response to fizzgig (Original post)

Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:54 PM

16. I also support this legislation. nt

 

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