Seems gunners are old white guys too.

[upaloopa]

I'm a 68 yr old white guy. Maybe I have another 20 years maybe not. My guess is that most of the people making it hard on the middle class and the young are like me on the way out. That goes for those making the new gun laws that remove all restrictions on guns.
If so, some here might take heart in knowing that between now and another 20 years a new generation will be in charge. I think that will end the hold us old white guys have. You can make some sensible gun laws.
The NRA is trying to recruit a new generation of gunners but I doubt they will be like the current crowd because of the social networks they develop.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. The NRA starts early.

All sorts of videos out there of kids from 4 to tweenhood being taught to shoot. Maybe we need a national minimum age law to own or operate a firearm, not just a minimum age to buy one. You can shoot legally even if you can't vote, drink, or drive a car? That seems a bit perverse.

[pansypoo53219]

2. there is always a new crop of old white guys + they are getting more fuxian + dittoed.

unless we move to the middle on the rite, we will get nowhere.+ that starts w/ the new enemy. jerbalism(journalism).

[jimmy the one]

3. the best & worst

If so, some here might take heart in knowing that between now and another 20 years a new generation will be in charge. I think that will end the hold us old white guys have.

Hate to be pessimistic, but that's what we were saying in the 80's. I thought the gun lobby could never get past the 1939 miller decision by the supreme court, & how it was interpreted as militia based rkba, & stare decisis (existing interpretation), but but but, bush/cheney sneaking into the white house is what ultimately changed the usa as we know it.

In this 21st century, the worst thing that has happened, generally & politically, has been the bush/cheney administration.
In this 21st century, the best thing that's happened, generally & politically, has been the obama/biden administration.

[CTyankee]

4. We don't have to argue really. Demographic change IS here whether anybody likes it or not.

It is here and it is pretty much unstoppable. If as a people we are less culturally appreciative of guns in our own lives and indeed feel that guns are pretty much a net minus to their well-being in a more urban, less rural, setting, you don't have to go out preaching to them.

Mike Bloomberg is funding one such effort with a tub of his own money: mothers (in somewhat the model of MADD). I am not sure his approach will work, but his money will certainly buy a lot of air time and other publicity.

As I said, what WILL make the difference is the change in the way people live their lives in our society. If it doesn't make sense to tote a gun, or support people who do (and those are people you don't know or live around), your support is going to dwindle. The relevance of the gun in more and more people's lives will be a negative for the NRA simply because that relevance will be in the form a more violence, more death, more suffering. Who wants that?

[billh58]

5. K&R n/t