Gun rights groups say,"We don't need new laws, just enforce the ones

[flamin lib]

we have." Only thing is, the system is rigged to prevent that.

Gun in Marysville school shooting was sold despite background check, court order

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/father-of-mphs-school-shooter-charged-with-illegal-gun-possesion/

A 2002 restraining order that should have prevented the father of Jaylen Fryberg from purchasing the handgun his son used to kill four schoolmates and himself at Marysville-Pilchuck High School apparently was never entered into a federal criminal background database, according to state and tribal officials.

However, that restraining order would not have shown up when Cabela’s contacted the FBI to conduct an instant background check when Raymond Fryberg purchased the weapon, because it was apparently never entered into the state or national databases on which those background checks rely, said Heather Anderson, the section chief of the Washington State Patrol’s Criminal Records Division.

Anderson said that, at the time, such reporting was “very encouraged” but not mandated and likely would have been done through the Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office.

"Very encouraged"? WTF? So what does the president of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms say? Does he think the system should be fixed so restraining orders must be reported?

“Penalizing all law-abiding gun owners because a system is flawed does not prevent crime from happening, nor does it keep the wrong people from getting their hands on guns,”

It's the same response every damn time.

Oh, but there's a federal law about restraining orders! Only thing is reporting of such things is relegated to the states, so there's 50 different reporting systems and they aren't even properly implemented because states do not have to enforce federal law. It's like a snake eating its own tail; NICS isn't updated so felon buys gun even with a background check and the gunners say that background checks don't work and criminals will get guns anyway and then they fight fixing the system because law abiding citizens and shit.

As I type this a dozen states are passing laws preventing state and local law enforcement from even attempting to enforce federal gun laws. Guns are so fucking special ya know. The way I've got it figured if a state doesn't enforce federal laws that state should get no federal contracts, matching funds, NO NOTHING.

[samsingh]

1. if laws aren't being enforced, why are they concerned that news ones

that will also likely be unenforced hit the books?

i smell big rats.

[flamin lib]

2. That is why state level legislation is so important.

SCOTUS ruled that states do not have to enforce federal law, so state laws have to be in place and enforceable. When a loophole appears it needs to be plugged.