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Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:15 PM

 

Ready For Someone Else!™

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Random synaptic misfire: What if we started a movement called Ready For Someone Else™, and started collecting money for whoever we support when Hillary announces she'll continue to not run through the 2016 elections (or she decides to run and needs to be primaried by an FDR Democrat)?

I think it would be fun.

UPDATE: just acquired readyforsomeoneelse.org. Get this thread up to 100 recs and I'll *do* something with it.

SECOND UPDATE: please, no more recs! Three more and I'm hosed.

THIRD UPDATE: you people suck.

FOURTH UPDATE: uh, uh...

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MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 OP
L0oniX Feb 2015 #1
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #5
sgmcenroe Feb 2015 #18
zipplewrath Feb 2015 #52
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #75
zipplewrath Feb 2015 #80
nikto Feb 2015 #93
pangaia Feb 2015 #86
zipplewrath Feb 2015 #99
Hoppy Feb 2015 #19
whathehell Feb 2015 #68
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #2
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #7
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #8
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #13
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #14
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #22
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #27
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #29
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #30
sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #55
peacebird Feb 2015 #77
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #3
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #16
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #17
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #78
fadedrose Feb 2015 #113
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #117
fadedrose Feb 2015 #112
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #116
whereisjustice Feb 2015 #4
F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #6
Jim Lane Feb 2015 #9
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #10
Jim Lane Feb 2015 #11
LineLineLineLineReply .
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #12
F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #49
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #79
druidity33 Feb 2015 #83
Jim Lane Feb 2015 #85
pangaia Feb 2015 #87
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #76
JEB Feb 2015 #15
zeemike Feb 2015 #20
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #21
mwooldri Feb 2015 #23
moonbeam23 Feb 2015 #24
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #25
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #26
onyourleft Feb 2015 #28
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #31
McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #32
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #33
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #82
RufusTFirefly Feb 2015 #34
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #48
Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #35
sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #36
merrily Feb 2015 #37
AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #38
grahamhgreen Feb 2015 #39
Enthusiast Feb 2015 #40
sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #46
Enthusiast Feb 2015 #41
RiverLover Feb 2015 #42
sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #47
Fairgo Feb 2015 #43
ReasonableToo Feb 2015 #44
djean111 Feb 2015 #45
WillyT Feb 2015 #51
malokvale77 Feb 2015 #53
azmom Feb 2015 #54
Autumn Feb 2015 #56
mimi85 Feb 2015 #57
yellowwoodII Feb 2015 #59
hay rick Feb 2015 #58
Voice for Peace Feb 2015 #60
alberg Feb 2015 #61
mak3cats Feb 2015 #62
MustBeTheBooz Feb 2015 #63
NorthCarolina Feb 2015 #64
MissDeeds Feb 2015 #69
Dragonfli Feb 2015 #65
freebrew Feb 2015 #66
leveymg Feb 2015 #67
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #71
MissDeeds Feb 2015 #70
Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #72
n2doc Feb 2015 #73
blondie58 Feb 2015 #74
NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #81
Jim Lane Feb 2015 #84
WillyT Feb 2015 #88
chknltl Feb 2015 #89
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #90
chknltl Feb 2015 #98
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #102
chknltl Feb 2015 #107
pangaia Feb 2015 #91
Fearless Feb 2015 #92
navarth Feb 2015 #94
Alkene Feb 2015 #95
Jack Rabbit Feb 2015 #96
merrily Feb 2015 #97
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #100
olddots Feb 2015 #101
TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #103
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #104
RiverLover Feb 2015 #105
sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #106
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #110
Dems to Win Feb 2015 #108
antiquie Feb 2015 #109
fadedrose Feb 2015 #115
jeepers Feb 2015 #111
fadedrose Feb 2015 #114
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #118
MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #119
NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #120
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #121

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:24 PM

1. Been watching FDR again on PBS ...what a great person he was in spite of a few flaws.

 

FDR ...one of the top 3 presidents this country has ever had.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:13 AM

5. Agreed

 

Who would you count as the other two?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:28 AM

18. The other two would be

George Washington, cause he could of been king but didn't.
Abraham Lincoln, cause the country would be a whole lot different without him.

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Response to sgmcenroe (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:47 PM

52. Watch out about Lincoln

Lincoln's reputation extends predominately from his treatment after being assassinated as anything he actually accomplished as president. He got off to a VERY slow start, and the end result was a very long and drawn out war.

TR probably has as much claim to our modern situation as Lincoln.

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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #52)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:39 PM

75. Teddy Roosevelt had good and bad also. He was keen on killing animals and fighting against the

Spanish, but he was a great reformer.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:05 PM

80. War undermined many

FDR, JBJ, Lincoln, they all had major mistakes associated with war.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:20 PM

93. TR learned the bitter lesson of war when his son Quentin was killed in WWI.

 

It was said he was deeply shaken and never the same after his son's death.

Weird to think that up until then, he seems he must have felt, to some degree, some strange kind of invulnerability regarding war.
His feeling towards war was clearly shaped by his swimmingly successful engagements in Cuba.



Quentin's death changed all that, albeit late in TR's life.


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Response to zipplewrath (Reply #52)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:15 PM

86. Humm,, just interesting to me..

" He got off to a VERY slow start, and the end result was a very long and drawn out war.' Could sort of be said for FDR, also.

But,, really a non-sequitor, I know...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #86)

Thu Feb 12, 2015, 08:54 PM

99. Not quite as bad

FDR was "in" the war before it was declared. I'm not sure anyone particularly claims that FDR did anything to lengthen the war. Some will suggest he was partially responsible for Japan attacking us. That's a bit complicated, but I'm not sure that particularly "lengthened" anything.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:28 AM

19. Lincoln, T.R.,

 

Washington, the most important thing he did was to retire after two terms. That stopped the impetus for an imperial presidency. I also respect that he gave form to our government, using the words of the Constitution. He created a government where none existed.

Carter, for his non-aggression.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:49 PM

68. In 2009, historians rated FDR as Third best, after Washington and Lincoln,

but some considered him 2nd, after Washington.

He was a GREAT president, absolutely, and if you're a Boomer or older, you were

raised with the legacy of his "New Deal" programs, the ones the Repukes are now trying to dismantle.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:38 PM

2. Fun yes, but more importantly the poor and working classes need protection from those

that would bleed the last ounce of blood from them to feed the already engorged super rich vampires that are expecting it from Hillary on a silver platter.

She would have no problems in helping with the bleeding or with acting as their server.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:22 AM

7. Think we should do it? nt

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:29 AM

8. Without question or hesitation

I'm in.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:03 AM

13. Well... Let's get 100 recs

 

And we'll start the thing.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:10 AM

14. Perhaps an Xpost in GD of some sort would help to whip the Rec goal? /nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:43 AM

22. Perhaps... but The Swarm might cover it

 

with poop while scream-yipping like chihuahuas on an ether binge.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:09 AM

27. OT but something about what you said made me think of a scene from

Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas, the lizards in the bar specifically.

Edited to add:

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:19 AM

29. *That* would be General Discussion. nt

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:20 AM

30. I think I'll stay in here, I don't have my golf shoes today /nt

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:11 PM

50. It's a lot nicer in here. You can actually discuss issues without the derailing of

good threads that are becoming standard procedure in GD.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #50)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:41 PM

55. I agree, in fact it is largely due to this group that I decided to become more active again

Every time I end up in GD I have to answer moronic nonsense (most recently from a pundint that argues like a child - you always hate my friends - you never say anything nice)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:52 PM

77. I'm in, Manny! What can I do?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:48 PM

3. But I heard that HRC was "electable" which is much more important than integrity or having

 

Democratic principles. After all, if we are going to get screwed by the Oligarchy, it might as well be by someone we elect.

*electable is code for "the Oligarchs will let her win"

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:13 AM

16. Electable is also code for a giant quid pro quo war chest, but I suppose that is redundant.

It is after all the Oligarchs that let them win via supplying the large war chest used to purchase their candidates.

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Response to Dragonfli (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:28 AM

17. Yes money is one tool of the Oligarchs. They have many more. Control of voting machines

 

helps make people "electable". Ask Karl Rove.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:54 PM

78. I remember when Hillary fans claimed Obama wasn't "electable".

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #78)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:48 AM

113. It worked on Howard Dean in Iowa nt

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #113)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 01:22 PM

117. They kept saying that about Kucinich too.

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:47 AM

112. Electable - this is the term that pushed Howard Dean

out of the winning spot in the Iowa primary, which basically ended his run. It was the HC visit and work by her (DLC) supporters that convinced the Iowans not to vote for him - This could be seen so clearly when the debate was televised - and every other Dem candidate (there were many) except for Barbara Lee picked on Dean instead of giving their own views.

I hate that word "electable," because it effectively discards integrity as being important.

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #112)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:53 PM

116. "I hate that word "electable," because it effectively discards integrity as being important. "

 

Very well said.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Feb 9, 2015, 11:52 PM

4. lololol - Clinton vs. Bush: as comfortable as an old pair of shoes....

that have stepped in some giant piles of shit. They just want an opportunity to clean them off on our carpet.

I'm mean you CAN'T expect them to clean the shit off their own shoes...


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:16 AM

6. K&R

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:30 AM

9. The trouble is that we're already running out of time.

 

The sad reality of American campaigns is that they start earlier and earlier. There's not much time left for a "someone else" to come forward and set up the organization, recruit the staffers and early donors (especially, alas, big donors), etc.

My current highly subjective take on our options:
1. Warren won't run despite "draft" efforts. (If she does run, I'll throw myself into helping her campaign. I'd quit my job... if I had one.)
2. Sanders will run and will run as an FDR Democrat. For several reasons, though, it's hard to see him being nominated or elected. Supporting him might nevertheless have value in pulling the party to the left. I'll certainly vote for him over Clinton if, by the time of my primary, he's her leading opponent.
3. Other people who are likely to mount credible campaigns are Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb. One possibility at this point is for one of them to emerge as a more-or-less-FDRish Democrat and get our support. I think that's unlikely in Webb's case but O'Malley might make the grade.
4. In the next tier, in terms of likelihood of running, is Brian Schweitzer. He seems to be a mix of populist and Western conservative Democrat. I evaluate him as both less likely to run and less FDR-ish than O'Malley.
5. There are plenty of us who are ready for someone else but that fact has not enticed the likes of Sherrod Brown, Russ Feingold, Alan Grayson, or Sheldon Whitehouse into the race. Here's where the time factor comes in. If one of those four or some other progressive were thinking about running, we'd already be hearing about the meetings with donors and strategists, even if not yet the formal exploratory committee. The door hasn't completely closed but I have to rate it as highly unlikely that one of them will run.

Sorry if I sound pessimistic. I am pessimistic. I think Clinton will run and will win the nomination. If she doesn't run, I think Andrew Cuomo will jump in and be an immediate front-runner, and I'd actually rather see us nominate Clinton.

My ideal candidate is something along the lines of O'Malley's bio (executive experience, most electable age group, no S-word on his rap sheet) combined with Sanders's ideology. I expect to be disappointed.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:43 AM

10. "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"

 

Hunter S. Thompson said that.

We're in weird times now, so I expect the unexpected.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:46 AM

11. Expect the unexpected -- ticket of Clooney/Krugman?

 

Works for me.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:49 AM

12. .

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:53 PM

49. ...

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:57 PM

79. Clooney would probably win the single female vote without lifting a finger.

Maybe he would be willing to run with Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. They could hire Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury.

If Clooney asked, Warren would probably say yes. What woman could resist him?

I'm a woman, 71, but still a woman. I think I can speak for a lot of women (although maybe not all -- well -- maybe all).

Clooney could win the all categories of women vote -- and maybe a few men too.

But who would need the male vote if Clooney ran. He would insure a Democratic victory.

What he would do in the White House is a big question? But any and every woman would vote for him, and WE ARE IN THE MAJORITY.


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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:40 PM

83. Warren/Stewart is my hope....

you think Jon Stewart could do it?



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Response to druidity33 (Reply #83)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:08 PM

85. Then Bill O'Reilly takes over The Daily Show to make fun of Vice President Stewart.

 

As for your question, I'm sure Jon Stewart could do it. The issue is whether he would. He's probably happier having his own TV show than breaking ties in the Senate.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #83)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:28 PM

87. Stewart/Colbert !!!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:48 PM

76. I'm with you. Teddy Roosevelt was nominated as the vice president because he was making

life miserable for the corrupt Republicans in his party. At least there is a strong argument for that assertion. Teddy Roosevelt was a problem. The vice presidency was a nothing job.

Teddy Roosevelt ended up being the president and turning the country around. He was stubborn, extremely intelligent and well educated and a fighter.

We need someone like Teddy Roosevelt right now.

And finding him may be a matter of serendipity. Being a runner up in the 2016 race could be a good thing.

Anything can happen now. Scandals are afoot. The world, including the political world is in a state of flux. A number of issues and facts could bring unexpected results.

So I am staying open to the possibility that we could get a Bernie Sanders or an Elizabeth Warren no matter how plump and pretty Hillary's war chest is.

These are strange times. And in strange times, anything can happen.

The middle class is discontent and for good reason.

Jim Webb, Schweitzer -- no way. They just don't cut it. And it is time for a woman.

Elizabeth Warren does not think like a Barack Obama or a Jim Webb. She doesn't really think she could be elected. She could. She probably will no matter how reluctant she is to run now.

Our government is so corrupt, and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are two rare politicians who are not part of the corruption.

So, anything can happen.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:13 AM

15. Kick.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:34 AM

20. I'm in.

Not that it will mean anything because I have no money and money is what it is all about.
And ordinary people cannot raise as much as the oligarchs can spend on an election.

Our only hope is a populist that can turn out the people who are fed up with the parties and the control of big money over politics...and that is why they want Clinton v Bush...a choice between two insiders.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:35 AM

21. It can't be about money

 

If it is, then only the oligarchs can win.

We need to find plan B.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:53 AM

23. I'd even host it :)

Vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party! You know it makes sense!

Though setting up a political action fund defining who the "Someone Else" should be and when that "Someone Else" turns up - yup shoot out some money in their general direction for their political campaign.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:58 AM

24. Love the domain name!

If i can't have Warren i want Grayson...(does this count as a rec?)

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Response to moonbeam23 (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:01 AM

25. Gotta hit the rec button to rec

 

And I don't see you in the rec list yet...

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Response to moonbeam23 (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:02 AM

26. That certainly is support for the goal, but Manny was also refering to clicking the rec button on

the bottom left of the Original post of this thread.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:15 AM

28. Kick.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:20 AM

31. One-third of the way towards our goal!

 

Exciting!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:22 AM

32. You mean "Ready for a primary challenger punching bag?"

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:23 AM

33. No. nt

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:06 PM

82. Anyone who challenges Hillary will get a boost from the media.

Because challenging Hillary will be a great story. And Hillary had better realize that before she steps into the race.

Even a Republican challenging Hillary will get a boost simply because he is brave enough to defy the Clinton machine.

But I am telling you that I think that the winning slogan in the 2016 election will be: It's the scandals, stupid.

The corruption in our country has reached such a level that, like an overheated volcano, it has to explode.

Bernie Sanders says he does not and never has run a negative ad. But he won't need to if he runs. The two parties will rush out there to reveal all the corruption. It is very obvious to the insiders. And they will use it against each other this time around.

Mark my words: It's the scandals, stupid.

Hillary has a past. So does Jeb Bush. It's just a matter of when those pasts are brought into the light.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:32 AM

34. Briefly coming out of temporary retirement, specifically for a Manny rec



Hail and farewell!

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:25 PM

48. Just a shnorrer, then?

 

There's work to be done. We could use your help.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:46 AM

35. 40th rec

Sixty more to go.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:55 AM

36. Great idea! Bernie Sanders talked about how much money might be collected for 'someone else'

in a speech he made recently.

At Brookings, as he'd done at primary state speeches, Sanders talked openly about a 2016 presidential bid and what it would cost. "If you had 2 million people putting in $100, that's $200 million," he suggested. "Is that enough? I don't know. Maybe the game is over."


I think if he or Elizabeth Warren were running, that would be more than possible. Would it be enough? I don't know, but if not, then we could double it.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:19 AM

37. Great idea.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:17 AM

38. alright

 

alright, alright

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:48 AM

39. Kick!

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:47 AM

40. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

Seriously.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:43 AM

46. If it were in GD it would. But for a group 58 recs so far is pretty good.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:53 AM

41. I regret that I have but one Rec to give my country.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:03 AM

42. Maybe readyforsomeoneelse.org could snag some of these "rogue donors"

Really interesting article~

Rogue donors not ready for Hillary?

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:02 PM

47. That's a great link! I had not heard of this. I wondered if there were any wealthy

liberals who actually WERE on the right side of issues, like 'getting the money out of politics'. I knew about Ben and Jerry, but compared to the Right, including Third Way, who seem to have endless Corporate donors, the Left seems to have few who themselves are on the Left.

Sagner is a former board member of the influential Democracy Alliance club of wealthy liberals. Its membership — which skews anti-war, anti-money in politics and economically populist — largely turned away from Clinton and toward Obama in 2008. Sources say the club’s current donor pool again includes an ardent anybody-but-Hillary wing. This time around, its underdog rival of choice is Warren, who demurred when she was urged to run after speaking to the club’s annual winter meeting late last year.

Warren’s lawyer has even gone so far as to disavow Ready for Warren. But it’s proceeding anyway, with the two-pronged goal of demonstrating to Warren that there would be sufficient financial support for her campaign and also building political infrastructure around the country that could be tapped by any such campaign. It’s a model similar to — but on a much smaller scale — than the one that Ready for Hillary pioneered early last year.


Manny should click that link because once we get to 100 recs and we're more than halfway there now, we might want to get in touch with them!


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:43 AM

43. We need the churn

Cracking the rusted canard of inevitability...requires options and a contrary mind to consider the possibilities. Even if nothing worthwhile roils to the surface, at least we will have reckoned the depth of our empty rhetoric. I'm in.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:24 AM

44. And kick. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:04 AM

45. Count me in.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:26 PM

51. I'm In...

 

& Rec !!!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:12 PM

53. Logged on to rec (nt)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:59 PM

54. My daughter attends an all womens college

So I asked her if her school was excited about Hillary running, and her response was "nobody wants Hillary, we want Warren" Smart women!!!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:05 PM

56. 83 and a kick. Count me in Manny

I am past Ready For Someone Else!™

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:10 PM

57. Sorry.

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Response to mimi85 (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:53 PM

59. First mistake

"Taking "her" for granted was your first mistake." If it's Hillary, Count Me Out.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:51 PM

58. Ready for someTHING else.

Lesser evil Third Way Democrats is a prescription for continuing decline.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:03 PM

60. rec 93... almost there

 

ready for honesty.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:07 PM

61. yes.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:07 PM

62. K & another R... (n/t)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:08 PM

63. Gladly K&R!!! n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:12 PM

64. I for one am MORE THAN READY for Bernie Sanders.

 

At this point in time Bernie is the only acceptable candidate to have publicly stated an inclination to run. I love EW, but I love Bernie too, and if he runs, he has my support and my vote.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #64)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:52 PM

69. Same here, NC

 

Bernie has my full support!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:17 PM

65. Only three more to go, when I get back in the early AM I hope to see

The discussion about how we will move forward.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:35 PM

66. I'm in... K & R

Hoser!

Is there anyone that can fill those shoes?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:48 PM

67. 102 - are you ready to be hosed, Manny?

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Response to leveymg (Reply #67)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:00 PM

71. I'm assuming the position as I write this. nt

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:54 PM

70. K&R

 

You nailed it, Manny!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:13 PM

72. +1

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:21 PM

73. It was…..Inevitable n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 07:31 PM

74. Sorry, Manny!

I clicked the like too fast.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:06 PM

81. deliciously amusing.

therefore i cannot not support it. kick!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:52 PM

84. The first thing to do with the new site is to set up a jury system for comment moderation. (n/t)

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:39 PM

88. Kick !!!

 


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:47 PM

89. Here is an odd thought:

Ask the Koch bros for finacial contributions.

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Response to chknltl (Reply #89)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:50 PM

90. Like the DLC did?

 

Nah. Big nasty strings probably attached.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #90)

Thu Feb 12, 2015, 04:10 PM

98. I agree about those big nasty strings.

I was sitting in my shrinks office while reading your OP. As he came out to usher me in for my appointment I hit the 'post' button for that post. My doctor wanted to know what was so amusing so i showed him. (He is a Democrat btw, likely a very Progressive one). I have never heard him laugh harder! I figured that you would get a kick out of it too.

Sadly, and it hurts my head to think such thoughts, I had to ask myself if the Koch's would actually invest in Progressives who want to field candidates willing to go up against corporate Dems. The divide and conquer concept would not be lost on them while the cash for a cash starved grass roots movement would not be lost on the 'movers'. What interesting times we live in huh!

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Response to chknltl (Reply #98)

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:31 PM

102. Wait... the Kochs might actually cough up cash?

 

I'll need to rethink my position, then. I'm sure that there's a pragmatic solution.

Fortunately, I expect the site to go nowhere, so no moral dilemmas will be faced. But let's give it a shot. These people have been running the Democratic Party for 20+ years, and it's not gone well for us.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #102)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 03:27 PM

107. Hey Manny, sorry for the delay here and a thought.

I check in at DU infrequently and randomly so my apologies for not getting back to you sooner.
Here is my thought: (On second thought maybe it is best I post this thought to your inbox.)




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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:02 PM

91. I was 154, or maybe 156, I forget.

I have almost no skills in this field, terrible at advertising. All I can do is play music, and a little more.
But, I will do what I can.
What about a FB page at some point?
I would certainly support it and post on my own timeline...

Oppss. humm, Would DUers then know who I REALLY am?







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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:11 PM

92. I hear Jon Stewart needs a new day job...

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:32 PM

94. enthusiastic kick for manny. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:04 PM

95. KnR n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 12:10 AM

96. Yanis Varoufakis for President

I'm ready for Yanis.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Feb 11, 2015, 07:49 AM

97. Now you've done it, Goldstein. What did Third Way Manny say about this?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:27 AM

100. I rec'd by accident, before I saw you were the author. Bytheway there is another push pole

 

out there that has HRC running a close "Third" behind ReadyforSomeOneElse and AnyOneButHRC.

Here's a link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1277&pid=3788

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 12:17 PM

101. " I'm Ready For Lunch "

 

this can replace "Who Wants Soup ? "

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:30 PM

103. I'm ready for better than "better than JEB". I flush better than JEB every morning.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #103)

Fri Feb 13, 2015, 07:38 PM

104. Thead Win!

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 08:01 PM

105. Hey Manny

Merrily suggested you may want to link some relevant sites on your fabulous new readyforsomeoneelse.org site once its all put together & ready to go~

This one just might be Manny-approved ~

http://dearelizabethwarren.com/home.html

^^^on the new interactive site to Draft Liz:

(new video)












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Response to RiverLover (Reply #105)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 01:56 PM

106. That's a good suggestion. There are several Populist groups who are active in trying to get

populist candidates elected from the local to the national level also. They had some success also in the mid terms.

We might want to follow the progress of the new Greek Populist Government, the first in Europe to officially reject the Third Way/Neo Liberal/Austerity policies that have devastated the working class across the globe where they have managed to implement them.

They are already under attack from the usual suspects and are going to need a lot of support world wide.

But for now, they have demonstrated that populism can rise above even the most determined and brutal efforts by the Austerity crowd and take back their country.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #106)

Thu Feb 19, 2015, 01:19 AM

110. It wouldn't surprise me at all that the Party Powers told Sen Warren

 

to back off. I wouldn't hold it against her. Sen Sanders said a lot when he said that asking someone progressive to run for president would subject them and their family to untold attacks. The Powers That Be are very powerful and have more money than Dog.

But in spite of their threats, the populist movement will continue.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 04:28 PM

108. Ready for Barbara Lee!

 

Can't beat somebody with nobody. I'll sign on if Warren steps up, but it seems unlikely. I'm on board with Bernie if he runs, but I fear his history of not being part of the Democratic party will hurt him in the primary.

I say we need a "Draft Barbara Lee" movement. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have drained this country of blood and treasure and there is no end in sight. Let us turn to the one brave woman, the lone prophetic voice in our Congress who stood against these travesties and whose warnings have sadly come true.

I'm Ready for Barbara Lee -- the only member of Congress wise enough to vote NO on the AUMFs of 2001 and 2002.

Demand the BEST for our beloved country! Draft Barbara Lee!

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Response to Dems to Win (Reply #108)

Tue Feb 17, 2015, 05:22 PM

109. Second!

 

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Response to Dems to Win (Reply #108)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 11:04 AM

115. ++ I really like her nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 10:55 AM

114. "Collecting money"

Has this started yet?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Sat Feb 21, 2015, 07:36 PM

118. Hey Manny, what's the status of this boondoggle? Er, I mean well meaning boondoggle.

 

Oops, still not right.

What's the status of this fine enterprise?

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #118)

Sun Feb 22, 2015, 02:59 AM

119. under construction

 

Should have something in a few days.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #118)

Wed Feb 25, 2015, 11:41 PM

120. http://readyforsomeoneelse.org/ is up:

 

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #120)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:07 AM

121. Thanks. nm

 

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