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Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:33 PM

Interesting articles on Hillary.

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/4/13/debate_hillary_clinton_sounds_populist_tone

Remember Obama's Populist rhetoric followed up by "I'm a new Democrat" in his acceptance speech"? They will say what needs to be said until they get into office.

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Reply Interesting articles on Hillary. (Original post)
Phlem Apr 2015 OP
djean111 Apr 2015 #1
Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #5
djean111 Apr 2015 #6
FiveGoodMen Apr 2015 #2
L0oniX Apr 2015 #3
Dragonfli Apr 2015 #4
KoKo Apr 2015 #7
RiverLover Apr 2015 #8

Response to Phlem (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:07 PM

1. That is an absolute given.

 

Crap I have noticed today - social issues are waaay more important than economics issues. Gee, wonder why that is being floated.
People who do not support Hillary are either Haters or Griefers. Like being in junior high, really.
I put the word Hillary in my trash filter for a while. How peaceful!
Here's a thought - ramming her inevitability down our throats, gloating about the money she has raised - OK, then - no need to contribute or vote!

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Response to djean111 (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:56 PM

5. That first one is ongoing though.

so many of the centrists push that 'social trumps economic' meme and have for years across the blogosphere. And they have to, because so many of their preferred candidates are far more like actual Democrats on social issues, and far more RW on how they approach economic issues.

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Response to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:39 PM

6. That's The Third Way Way. Social issues don't cost them anything, and keep

 

the voters distracted while they are hung upside down in order to get any remaining change out of their pockets.

And isn't it a comfort to know, for example, that men and women will be equally out of jobs because of ever-increasing H-1B visas? Equal opportunity, baby!

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:08 PM

2. Yup.

But a LOT of people HERE have already fallen for it.

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:01 PM

3. I have my place under the bus fixed up real nice and comfortable.

 

Been there since Obama 2008 the day after his election.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:07 PM

4. I know the feeling, it took many here several more years to see his New Democratic ways

I was among the few early on that could easily see by his appointments where his fiscal priorities were. Some still can't see it.

I have a condo under that bus LOL

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:20 PM

7. Thanks!

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Response to Phlem (Original post)

Tue Apr 14, 2015, 08:41 PM

8. I read that transcript this morning. Thanks for posting.

It sounds like us talking here!

Ie,
KSHAMA SAWANT: Well, as Joe was saying, you know, she is now trying to use a veneer of a populist image. But look, this is a person who has hired 200 advisers to tell her how she can look populist without angering her wealthy donors. And ultimately the question is absolutely about her record as a warmongering secretary of state who used her position to emphasize the drone attacks, to be a vocal proponent of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and to use her position to promote the interests of multinational corporations at the expense of the interests of working people. And ultimately, you know, this candidate, if she is backed by the Democratic Party establishment apparatus, is going to be the Wall Street candidate. And fundamentally, we have to ask ourselves the question: Is the Democratic Party establishment ever, despite the populist imagery or rhetoric they may use, going to be—ever going to be a genuine vehicle in any way to promote the interests of working families?

And she’s been missing in action on the $15 demand. The $15 demand is taking over nationally, and she, like other people in the Democratic Party establishment, have been completely silent. She was on the board of Wal-Mart. Alice Walton has donated the maximum to her super PAC, to Ready for Hillary super PAC. And Wal-Mart is a corporation that has a a notorious union-busting record. And the $25,000 that Alice Walton donated to her is well more than the hourly employees at Wal-Mart make in a year, two-thirds of whom are women. And so I think we have to be very clear that she is going to represent the continuation of what we’ve seen in the last several decades, including Obama’s presidency, that this is going to be a Wall Street-controlled White House, and we need an alternative.

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