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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:40 PM Jul 2015

time to go...

I wonder what makes anyone want to write something critical about conservative politics - is it to offer a previously unrepresented point of view, suppressed as politically incorrect? Maybe we want to advocate for those who don't have the means to challenge a corporate sponsored point of view? Or is it just a metaphysical itch that needs to be scratched?

I'm sure it can be fun for some, but for me, it isn't. Presenting unpopular, difficult points of view missing from our national dialog often requires sharp criticism. Just the mere mention of these issues is enough to cause discomfort, especially among large political organizations concentrating power when they should be solving problems.

While there are no absolutes in this world, there is an asymptotic trajectory the Democratic Party is traveling along that leads to zero citizen participation and an over-reliance on a minority of wealthy decision makers. It's about as absolute as it can get.

A technocrat will argue that this is OK because every message can be analytically controlled for perfect pitch. The end-product resonates perfectly among "independent voters" drawing them in. This is the way, they argue, the Democratic Party is best served. We simply send money and leave it up to the professionals, the experts at managing perceptions.

The processed image, of course, is Photoshop perfect. Too perfect. Like the beautiful, happy people popping pills in a TV drug ad. Like the people in the video announcing Hillary as a presidential candidate. Like profit sharing and corporate tax breaks as a means to solve Black unemployment. Images of medicated bliss are so powerful, we simply ignore the side effects, such as brain hemorrhage, liver cancer, unemployment, poverty and prison.

But let's not dwell on the negative. Who doesn't love profit sharing? There you go, unemployed men and women of America - we are giving you PROFIT SHARING (*). When you get a job, you can share the profit. See, we're helping the Black community, unlike the other candidates.

So, why should I write about it? Why not leave it up to the professionals? I guess because even they don't always get it right. Or perhaps they have their own interests and narrow point of view leaving a large gap of understanding. Or maybe the editor just doesn't give a shit about jobs to Asia or tax breaks for the rich.

Whatever it is, I believe the more unique and critical voices the better. And that's the problem for me. In an increasingly technocratic world, we have the false notion that everything can be controlled. Every opinion is becoming is carefully sculpted to an ideal beauty, i.e. the lowest common denominator of electoral sensitivity. Naturally, some things just cannot be said.

It's a standard of American beauty I can't meet. For example, I think it is important to point out, given worldwide hacking, the irresponsibility of a Sec. of State keeping a secret email server managed by who-knows. It was horrible judgement. I don't care who the fuck did it before her. She has 1000s of people in her organization working for her and her foundation. Someone should have told her. Were they afraid?

And it IS fucked up to accept cash for her foundation from foreign countries at the same time State Dept. negotiations with the same country are on-going.

If we don't call this shit out for what it is "fucked up" then just how bad does someone have to behave before we hold them accountable? What next? It's the same logic that let the banks get away with conspiracy and fraud - they should have been brought up on RICO.

That's what I think. It makes me imperfect. A dissonance within a Democratic Party that demands perfect resonance.

Democratic Party leadership has dropped anchor in trickle-down harbor. They intend to drill deep and they don't give a fuck. Why not protest? The technocrats who see everything as some sort of multi-variate calculus of political advantage will always dominate this place. Absolutely safe, they say. And that's sort of what's happening to American life on a larger scale, carefully managed image of exceptionalism propping up a severely broken political process. We focus on the process, not the product. And, of course, we fall farther and farther behind.

Those who have the skills, time and courage to voice a strong, critical, dissenting view within their own political party, you have my total respect. This is something that gets harder and harder each passing year as our political elite intersect around self-serving economic policies supporting rich over the non-rich. Few people have the time to fight it. We are too busy trying to put food on the table.

Before PETA complains about the horse I am beating - best wishes to everyone in the progressive group. I've enjoyed sharing thoughts with kindred spirits.

(*) holy mother of fucking god, she really did offer this as a credible economic plan. It is THE most cynical thing I've seen any (mainstream) candidate propose during a crisis of disparity since Reagan. PROFIT SHARING of what - Walmart, Burger King, Uber drivers? We are moving to the gig economy (think poverty stricken China and India) and Clinton rolls out corporate tax breaks and profit sharing. It's fucked up and needs to be called out as a shitty economic proposal during a crisis of inequality.

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democrank

(11,092 posts)
1. I`m sitting here in the woods of Vermont feeling a giant disconnect.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:26 PM
Jul 2015

Our candidate raised $45,000,000. Oh yeah, well our candidate raised $150,000,000 and when the next report comes out, he`ll have raised $43,772,894,623, 941. Beat that!.

Haul in the most cash, hire handlers and image-makers and focus group your words to death. Next step? Move left with this group, move right with that group, jump to the center with the next group. What is that crap? Can`t our candidates just stand for what they stand for? Oh, wait. When they do, they`re "fringe" because they aren`t Corporate-Headquarter-Approved. They`re dangerous. Never know what they might do....like shame some money out of the Cayman Islands and reroute it to Owsley County, Kentucky or Aroostook County, Maine.

And this profit sharing thing. What kind of nonsense answer is that for some 57-year old keeping warm over a city grate? Or for the New Hampshire kid walking past the closed-down paper mill in his hand-me-down shoes he can`t afford to buy shoelaces for? There are children out there who literally have no food. There are people out there who literally have no hope.

These times and these problems demand a brand new vision, not more of the same.



Warpy

(111,226 posts)
2. Thank you, and the more an alternative vision seems to be getting through
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jul 2015

the more rabid her supporters are becoming. I don't get it, i must be immune to cults of personality, especially hers. I just can't see how the message of "business as usual" is such a selling point, even to conservatives who hate change of any kind. Even they get to a point where the unchanging has become untenable. Even they reach a point where stability at any cost finally costs them just a little too much.

I was hoping GD-P would contain them but I've seen them out there, trying to turn every sort of thread into a "poor Hillary" thread.

Clinton won't be defeated by her enemies. Like in 2008, she'll be defeated by her friends.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
3. I am so outraged that I am actually afraid to post.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jul 2015

I could easily go into a rant and say something that would come back and slap me in the face. I'm old and can probably hang on for what's left of my life, but I fear for those who are young and starting out. We have sunk so low that a long track record and honesty mean nothing. Dirty tricks and dishonesty are now mainstream and heaven help anyone who doesn't embrace that sickness.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. What an excellent OP. I wish you wouldn't leave, but to be honest
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jul 2015

I understand. Partisan forums are not the place to discuss ISSUES if the Party's chosen candidates look bad when we do so.

It's the reason why other kinds of political forums are on the rise now, while partisan forums are shrinking in membership.

It's sad because we SHOULD be able to discuss issues within our own party without being attacked etc especially when those issues are the ones our Party CLAIMS to support.

But it's a big world outside DU or other party supporting forums and people ARE discussing issues just about everywhere else.

People are not going to be silenced so maybe the politicos should wake up and start listening rather than silencing, or wake up in the not too distant future and wonder how they got it all so wrong.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. What a beautiful OP! I wish you would not leave. You are so appreciated in this group and by me
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 07:33 AM
Jul 2015

personally. Like sabrina 1, though, I understand if you insist. It gets uglier and move vicious all the time.

Please check your inbox every few weeks, starting a few weeks from now.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
6. btw, it's funny (but not funny ha ha) that you mention photoshop.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:52 AM
Jul 2015

For about a month now, I have been thinking of Hillary's 2016 campaign as the photoshopped campaign, but have not yet posted that, lest it be taken as a reference to her appearance, one of a number of topics we've been told is off limits as to Hillary, but no other candidate. It isn't a reference to her appearance--whatever that might be these days. I have no idea as every photo of her and many videos look so different from the rest. It is as you said, a reference to an overly technocratic campaign.

See? You inspired me finally to post something I had never posted before. Even though you've left.

I wish you would consider returning to at least post in this group. I really could benefit from more of your insights, focus and beautiful writing. If not, I wish you all the best.

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