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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:42 AM May 2015

No S#!t Shirlock!" -‘Extreme’ Exposure to Secondhand Cannabis Smoke Causes Mild Intoxication

Really, they needed a study to confirm this

Release Date: May 13, 2015
Secondhand exposure to cannabis smoke under “extreme conditions,” such as an unventilated room or enclosed vehicle, can cause nonsmokers to feel the effects of the drug, have minor problems with memory and coordination, and in some cases test positive for the drug in a urinalysis. Those are the findings of a Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine study, reported online this month in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence.

Cannabis is the most widely used illicit drug in the world. “Many people are exposed to secondhand cannabis smoke,” says lead author Evan S. Herrmann, Ph.D., a postdoctoral fellow in psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Johns Hopkins. “The scenario we looked at was almost a worst-case scenario. It could happen in the real world, but it couldn’t happen to someone without him or her being aware of it.”

“We found positive drug effects in the first few hours, a mild sense of intoxication and mild impairment on measures of cognitive performance,” says senior author Ryan Vandrey, Ph.D., an associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Johns Hopkins. “These were relatively slight effects, but even so, some participants did not pass the equivalent of a workplace drug test.”

The new research is the most comprehensive study of secondhand cannabis smoke and its effects since the 1980s, when researchers found the drug’s active ingredient, tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, and other cannabis byproducts could turn up in nonsmokers’ bodies after an hour or more spent in extreme conditions with heavy smokers in an enclosed space. That finding needed updating, since the average potency of street cannabis has tripled since the 1980s, the Johns Hopkins researchers wrote. Additionally, many earlier studies did not look at whether the nonsmokers reported feeling the drug’s effects, or whether their behavior and thinking were affected by secondhand smoke, as the new study did.

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http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/extreme_exposure_to_secondhand_cannabis_smoke_causes_mild_intoxication

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No S#!t Shirlock!" -‘Extreme’ Exposure to Secondhand Cannabis Smoke Causes Mild Intoxication (Original Post) n2doc May 2015 OP
Enclosed fredamae May 2015 #1
California took action to stop the transplant nonsense. antiquie May 2015 #4
If you're "not aware" that you're sitting in a freaking hotbox with masssive amounts of smoke... tridim May 2015 #2
i had a co worker who tested positive after playing poker B Calm May 2015 #3
6 smokers were each given SamKnause May 2015 #5
hotbox..duh Jesus Malverde May 2015 #6
You mean like this - funny packman May 2015 #7
lol Go Vols May 2015 #8
Number one rule for smokers and/or vapers eridani May 2015 #9
i wonder what the trial groups were like for this study 0rganism May 2015 #10
Frank's preference ... nikto Jun 2015 #11

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
1. Enclosed
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:55 AM
May 2015

with no fresh air....in a sealed closet.

A friend of mine was on the organ transplant list. If you ever, even once and even a little bit...in spite of your dr recommending cannabis to help relieve pain etc while you wait...you Will be Kicked OFF the list....No Organ for YOU.

Anyway, he worked with medcannabis patients...he was in a clinic...around multiple users, making topicals and other products like food etc.
The hospital UA'd him Constantly...he never Once tested positive for cannabis...however his wife smokes tobacco, he's never smoked a cig in his life.......at one point his nicotine levels went way up and they advised him that IF his elevated nicotine levels did NOT go Down Immediately-He'd be kicked off the donor list.
While this is not a controlled test ...it Is an indicator of the "REEFER MADNESS" nonsense they write.

It may be possible to rise THC levels in "Extreme" situations (saturations) for some..but in this case...and I suspect most cases..the answer is no.

What we need is Unbiased research.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
2. If you're "not aware" that you're sitting in a freaking hotbox with masssive amounts of smoke...
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:04 AM
May 2015

and you're not participating, there is probably something seriously wrong with you, and has nothing to do with Cannabis.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
3. i had a co worker who tested positive after playing poker
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:34 AM
May 2015

with a group of friends where who were smoking. He swears he didn't smoke any, but the employer fired him anyways.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
5. 6 smokers were each given
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:52 AM
May 2015

(10 high-potency cannabis cigarettes) to smoke in a one hour session.

60 high-potency cannabis cigarettes were smoked in an enclosed area in one hour.

I don't know, or have never known anyone who smokes 10 high-potency

cannabis cigarettes in one hour.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
10. i wonder what the trial groups were like for this study
Thu May 28, 2015, 03:29 AM
May 2015

"today we'll be testing 4 indica strains. alright, go stand in the room over there, by the funny looking vent."

best research grant EVARRRRR

would watch that as a documentary

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