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Bernin4U

(812 posts)
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 04:38 PM Jan 2016

"Bernie can't do everything he promises" = big, fat Straw Man!

In 1988, the impossible happened: Wayne Gretzky was traded to the LA Kings. (For reference, just know this was big enough that leadership in the Canadian Parliament considered trying to block it.) For me personally, it couldn't have been better. We had decided to take the plunge and order season tickets, only days before The Trade was announced. A true gift from the hockey gods!

What did it mean? Nobody really knew. Before then, the Kings had some great players, but could never quite pull it together. They had the dubious distinction of being able to score 3, 4, 5 goals in a game and still manage to lose! On a regular basis. Certainly Gretzky, known almost as much for his leadership as his playing ability, would greatly help to pull the team together. And he certainly did.

What's the point? That even when you manage to hire someone widely regarded as the most dominant player in the history of all team sports, THERE IS NO PROMISE that adding him will convert your losing-record team into the league champion. To claim otherwise is entirely disingenuous.

So what happened? After 5 years as an LA King, Gretzky took them to the Finals. They didn't win (didn't make a very good showing, really), but the three series before that were absolutely mind-blowing. Worth every penny. As was just being able to be there to see the Cup on your home ice.

But that's only part of it. Much more important was that Gretzky made hockey a big deal. Not just in So Cal, but throughout the west and south. Six new teams were added to the NHL because of it.

Bernie is in the same situation. He's not going to deliver a championship overnight. But he's not promising that either. The only thing he's promising is to fight for us as best as he can. He can't deliver everything. Nobody can. It's absurd to think otherwise. What he can do is pave the way. Create a movement, and keep it going.

And anyway, politics is a journey. Tying to turn it into a destination is a surefire means of failure.

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"Bernie can't do everything he promises" = big, fat Straw Man! (Original Post) Bernin4U Jan 2016 OP
Thanks for the neat sports analogy! nt retrowire Jan 2016 #1
I am waiting for (if she wins) the agreement with congress, they will let her go to war in Iran if LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #2
i doubt the ACA is going away. draa Jan 2016 #3
The secret is still making the medicare for all be phrased someway where the corporations LiberalArkie Jan 2016 #4

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
2. I am waiting for (if she wins) the agreement with congress, they will let her go to war in Iran if
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

she signs the bill removing the Affordable Care Act. What will her decision be?

draa

(975 posts)
3. i doubt the ACA is going away.
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jan 2016

$900B to those vultures through the ACA isn't going away. If any thing she might add more to it but at this point, unless we elect Bernie, Obamacare is it.

My problem is in the 5 years since it was passed the Democrats haven't attempted to improve it. Never mind that improvements would be difficult with a Republican congress, the assholes in our party won't even try. And yet they want us to believe that Clinton will do it when elected. Personally, I'm not falling for that shit again.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. The secret is still making the medicare for all be phrased someway where the corporations
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

will benefit big time verses them being able to deduct what they spend now for healthcare. If the big boys see that they will benefit from it, they will be jumping through hoops to get it.

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