Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumHillary supporters recent tactics...
1. Attack the poster (ad-hominem)... belittling seems to be their go to..
2. Attack the Op's source...
3. Alert if at all possible/necessary....
The facts and history are on our side...
Let's be diligent and work hard till the convention..
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Bill Clinton said that and made it his practice. I think it works well but you have to leave most emotion out of your response. Just present more "facts and history" and maybe briefly call out the logical fallacies (ad homs) but don't go personal back at them.
It has gotten so bad that it is hard to do a parody of it all but I still love this piece which lays waste to every BS meme of the last two weeks: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/02/bernie-sanders-is-the-worst-presidential-candidate.html
ejbr
(5,856 posts)article!!! Thanks for posting! And even with the plethora of nuggets within it, my favorite was the description of Cruz
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)over 800 and u just joined in this month ? yikes! busy bee!
I tend to think some of the people creating division and in-fighting are just trolls and paid disrupters...
its been proven that it happens on other sites...
china does it to protect their image on youtube videos.. lol
djean111
(14,255 posts)Hillary does - huge fail, plus they still don't get it that we are not personality driven, that Bernie's goodness is icing on the cake, that this really is Third Way against Democratic Socialism, not a poll in Tiger Beat.
And then, in GD, there is an OP saying cluster bombs are not so bad - we will need them if China invades the United States.
WHAT THE FUCK.
I expected that every issue I hate about Hillary will have apologists and excusers out in force - but I admit I never thought anyone would try and talk up cluster bombs.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)They're just about as unlikable as she is.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)They play just as dirty as she does. The ugliness of their tactics is unnecessary and unbecoming.
pengu
(462 posts)4. Don't address the point and change the subject
5. Bernie's worse because (insert previously discredited attack).
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Your number 3 is a shame. I've seen divisions get bad here during primaries, so I am not completely shocked. I don't recall coordinated* efforts to silence people with the jury system in past, though.
* hypothesis based on observation.
dr60omg
(283 posts)I agree her supporters are acting in the most disgusting egregious manner
At one point her people posting in a face book group which is ironic considering their ludicrous bernie bro claims (and the person who coined the term apologized for doing so yesterday since it was decontextualized by Clinton supporters both in spirit and kind. So, women there have been called b**ches and told not to get their "panties" in a wad etc etc
Yes, the engage in all sorts of attacks from logical fallacies to factual fallacies to outright lies to childish anger
There is a rather simple way to see the attacks that are rather transparent
We ought to report.
For example the post below that Sanders supporters are Trump supporters. What a ludicrous claim based on nothing at all ...
It has to do with something really important the Clinton game of triangulation (see Matt Taibbi in rolling stone way back in July I think) and parsing language and power hitting it is rather transparent and will not deter anyone at all. If anything it makes me more determined to never see a Clinton in a white house again and I will do everything and anything to prevent that again as long as I live.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)If Hillary was to serve 2 terms as President, at the end of the 2nd term, Chelsea would be around the same age as Bill and Hillary were when Bill was elected President in 1992. I would expect to see Chelsea running for office during Hillary's first term, perhaps for Chuck Schumer's Senate seat if he were to be tapped for a prominent role in the Hillary Clinton administration.
pengu
(462 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)But I will be surprised if Hillary becomes President and Chelsea doesn't launch a political career.
pengu
(462 posts)jonjon
(68 posts)How predictable they have become.