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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:21 AM Feb 2016

Sanders Opposes Bill to Block GMO Labeling

WASHINGTON, Feb. 24 – Sen. Bernie Sanders issued the following statement ahead of the Senate agriculture committee’s hearing on legislation introduced by Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) that would block Vermont and other states from requiring labels on genetically modified foods:

“All over this country, people are becoming more conscious about the food they eat and the food they serve their kids. When parents go to the store and purchase food for their children, they have a right to know what they are feeding them.

“The overwhelming majority of Americans favor GMO labeling. We cannot allow the interests of Monsanto and other multi-national food industry corporations to prevail.

“I am very proud that Vermont took the lead nationally to make sure people know what is in the food they eat. Vermont and other states must be allowed to label GMOs.”

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Sanders Opposes Bill to Block GMO Labeling (Original Post) n2doc Feb 2016 OP
It's insane that they want to tell Americans we have no right to know. Skwmom Feb 2016 #1
Down right UnAmerican. jwirr Feb 2016 #8
Exactly. n/t Herman4747 Feb 2016 #11
damn straight! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #18
Its because noone would buy GMO food! Orange Butterfly Feb 2016 #9
It's insane that they want to tell Americans we have no right to know. AlbertCat Feb 2016 #23
the problem is the labels don't as much inform as scare. alp227 Feb 2016 #32
Junk science. I suggest you do a little more research. That is the untold scandal of the century Skwmom Feb 2016 #46
What specific peer reviewed science are you basing that opinion on? ag_dude Feb 2016 #48
Not really. ag_dude Feb 2016 #41
As you can see from my sig line this is one of jillan Feb 2016 #2
I despise politicians and others Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #3
The WA State Attorney General has filed a lawsuit floriduck Feb 2016 #4
Funny how fast "states rights" gets thrown under the bus... phantom power Feb 2016 #5
Hillary Clinton opposes GMO labelling Android3.14 Feb 2016 #6
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #7
I'd eat it, but I still think it should be labeled. fbc Feb 2016 #10
So how are they going to spin this one in the Hillary camp? Fearless Feb 2016 #12
She supposedly also supports labeling n2doc Feb 2016 #14
the pro-GMO folks AlbertCat Feb 2016 #24
Thank you Bernie! K&R nt TBF Feb 2016 #13
There is nothing wrong with GMOs. Deadshot Feb 2016 #15
sorry if I don't want to be told how safe they are. I don't want to eat them. bbgrunt Feb 2016 #17
None of it makes sense. If as you say there is nothing wrong with GMOs and A Simple Game Feb 2016 #19
^ THIS ^ mac56 Feb 2016 #21
why wouldn't the companies that manufacture them want to brag about them? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #25
I boycott Walmart and Koch products. katsy Feb 2016 #30
Yep. Deadshot Feb 2016 #36
The point is people have a right to know what they are eating. jg10003 Feb 2016 #22
A choice based on ignorance, not real information. alp227 Feb 2016 #33
^^This^^ Deadshot Feb 2016 #38
It's a choice that doesn't need to be made. Deadshot Feb 2016 #37
K & R! Fuck Monsanto! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #16
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #20
And on another related front... proverbialwisdom Feb 2016 #26
sounds like she needs to get the "hurt feelings" e-mail NJCher Feb 2016 #34
Sarcasm? Anyway, she must've changed her mind, unfortunately. It's a done deal. (nt) proverbialwisdom Feb 2016 #40
That's Bernie! yellerpup Feb 2016 #27
It seems so, doesn't it! NJCher Feb 2016 #35
He's real! yellerpup Feb 2016 #39
There is no reason to prohibit labeling. blackspade Feb 2016 #28
Labeling isn't prohibited and this bill would do nothing to that ag_dude Feb 2016 #43
The effect is the same. blackspade Feb 2016 #44
That's not true. ag_dude Feb 2016 #47
It is true, because there is no uniformity to labeling, nor standards. blackspade Feb 2016 #49
That's a false comparison, there's no law requiring labeling "natural" or "synthetic" ag_dude Feb 2016 #50
I was wondering what angle you were working. blackspade Feb 2016 #52
What an absolutely absurd thing to say. ag_dude Feb 2016 #53
Way to turn that on its head. blackspade Feb 2016 #54
You CAN choose, I want both to have that choice. ag_dude Feb 2016 #55
Damn right I'm against companies having that choice. blackspade Feb 2016 #56
I'm for food choice by people too. ag_dude Feb 2016 #57
I am not concerned about GMO's so much as I think we need to know exactly what we eat dr60omg Feb 2016 #29
k&R azmom Feb 2016 #31
A summary of the GMO labeling issue.. ag_dude Feb 2016 #42
Remember THIS guy? bvar22 Feb 2016 #45
Where does Mrs. Weather-vane come down on this issue ?? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #51
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
23. It's insane that they want to tell Americans we have no right to know.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:27 PM
Feb 2016

Indeed.

GMO doesn't scare me. Monsanto, however, is a dreadful company.

There's simply no reason NOT to label food....except they think they will lose money.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
32. the problem is the labels don't as much inform as scare.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:40 PM
Feb 2016

Thanks to the widespread GMO phobic junk science. It's like biology textbooks carrying an "evolution is disputed by creationists" label.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
46. Junk science. I suggest you do a little more research. That is the untold scandal of the century
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

and when it becomes well known the public will be out with their pitchforks.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
41. Not really.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

Companies already have the freedom to label GMOs if they wish.

If they're dangerous, ban them.

The reason there's a fight over forced labeling is the anti-GMO crowd realizes there just isn't science that suggests banning GMO's is in any way rational so they choose to take the fight elsewhere, away from science, where they can play on emotions and the scientific ignorance of the general public.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
3. I despise politicians and others
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:29 AM
Feb 2016

who try to prevent Joe and Jane Public from knowing what kind of food they are eating.

If I said out loud when I was a kid, what I am thinking now about the "Gentleman from Kansas", my mom would have washed my mouth out with soap for a week.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
4. The WA State Attorney General has filed a lawsuit
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:36 AM
Feb 2016

against the Grocer's Assoc. (National or American- not sure which) for illegal campaigning against a recently defeated GMO labeling bill. I hope more pressure is put on these money grubbing, Montsano loving organizations.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
5. Funny how fast "states rights" gets thrown under the bus...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

when conservatives disagree with what a state wants to do.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
12. So how are they going to spin this one in the Hillary camp?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:49 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie looks to destroy economy or something?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
14. She supposedly also supports labeling
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

But of course takes $$$ from Monsanto.

So I don't think they will care, or else the pro-GMO folks will come in calling Sanders a luddite and 'anti-science'...

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
24. the pro-GMO folks
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

GMO is nothing to be afraid of.... but Monsanto is dreadful!

This is just about labeling, not about whether GMO is dangerous or not. Most of the "pro-GMO folks" are smart enough to know this.

Deadshot

(384 posts)
15. There is nothing wrong with GMOs.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

The science behind it is sound. Most scientists, including NdGT, Bill Nye, and others all say they're safe to eat. And they are. I can understand the hatred of Monsanto and ConAgra. I hate them. But they don't own GMOs. The hatred of those two corporations clouds everyone's judgement about GMOs.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
19. None of it makes sense. If as you say there is nothing wrong with GMOs and
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:10 PM
Feb 2016

they are safe why wouldn't the companies that manufacture them want to brag about them? They claim they are needed to be able to feed the world, they are safe, etc., so why not brag about it and improve their reputations at the same time?

I smell something rotten and it's not just the genetically modified salmon, it's all of it.

And isn't there something about trying to get legislation passed to not allow any lawsuits for liability against GMO manufacturers?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
25. why wouldn't the companies that manufacture them want to brag about them?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:31 PM
Feb 2016

Because... since there is a woo movement to make GMO seem scary.... they are afraid they might lose money.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
30. I boycott Walmart and Koch products.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

Does govt get the power to make me change my purchasing habits? Maybe unlabeled Koch products? Repackage Walmart ROFL

I don't care spit what today's science shows about gmos. Science doesn't make me boycott companies I want obliterated from the planet. ok that was gratuitous drama. Maybe.

I demand to know what's in my food and I'll decide who to support as a consumer. I'll take science under advisement and carry on with MY right to choose. Gmos are in my kids vaccines. I took the science under advisement and my kids have all their vaccines. No exception this is a community health issue. What I feed my family is not up for a vote nor is it anyone's business but mine. I want labels so I make my own choices. Period.

I don't care about them or their lost profits. Too fucking bad for them. I want more knowledge and more power to choose.

jg10003

(976 posts)
22. The point is people have a right to know what they are eating.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:24 PM
Feb 2016

You're right about many scientists saying that GMOs are safe. However prohibiting the labeling of GMOs prevents people from making a choice. This bill is yet another example of a law designed to help corporations rather than consumers.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
33. A choice based on ignorance, not real information.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:49 PM
Feb 2016

GMO labels are similar to Hillary Clinton's anti-Bernie smears or the accusations of Obama being a Muslim: fear mongering, instead of valuable information.

Scientific American editorial in 2013: [Labels for GMO Foods Are a Bad Idea](http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/labels-for-gmo-foods-are-a-bad-idea)

Instead of providing people with useful information, mandatory GMO labels would only intensify the misconception that so-called Frankenfoods endanger people's health [see “The Truth about Genetically Modified Food”]. The American Association for the Advancement of Science, the World Health Organization and the exceptionally vigilant European Union agree that GMOs are just as safe as other foods. Compared with conventional breeding techniques—which swap giant chunks of DNA between one plant and another—genetic engineering is far more precise and, in most cases, is less likely to produce an unexpected result. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has tested all the GMOs on the market to determine whether they are toxic or allergenic. They are not. (The GMO-fearing can seek out “100 Percent Organic” products, indicating that a food contains no genetically modified ingredients, among other requirements.)


It sucks how the left and right are similarly anti science.

Deadshot

(384 posts)
37. It's a choice that doesn't need to be made.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:25 PM
Feb 2016

It's akin to putting labels on water bottles telling everyone that water is safe to drink.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
26. And on another related front...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:44 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.statnews.com/2016/01/12/califf-senate-vote-fda/

Califf wins Senate panel vote, but faces trouble on food labeling
By SHEILA KAPLAN
JANUARY 12, 2016


WASHINGTON — Dr. Robert Califf won approval from a key Senate committee on Tuesday to become the next Food and Drug Administration commissioner, but one senator says she’ll block his path to a full Senate vote because of a dispute over genetically modified fish.

The Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee approved Califf’s nomination by voice vote, with no senators voting against him. Normally, that would be a sign that the Duke University cardiologist can expect an easy confirmation by the full Senate.

But Senator Lisa Murkowski, a Republican from Alaska, said she will place a “hold” on his nomination to prevent a Senate vote, saying she’s angry about her treatment by Califf and the FDA when she raised concerns about the agency’s plans for the labeling of genetically modified fish.

Murkowski, who wants mandatory labeling, says she talked to Califf about the issue after the committee’s confirmation hearing in November, and that he promised to listen to her concerns. But shortly after the hearing, the FDA issued guidelines that called for voluntary labeling of genetically modified foods, not mandatory labeling.

Murkowski is convinced that voluntary labeling won’t work because not enough companies will comply — and she told reporters that Califf was “not straightforward” with her about what he knew about the FDA’s plans. She also said a Department of Health and Human Services official who was supposed to discuss the issue with her merely called her office after hours and left a message.

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NJCher

(35,684 posts)
34. sounds like she needs to get the "hurt feelings" e-mail
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

Also, what lame reasoning. Not enough companies will comply. Like we haven't got provisions for that?



Cher

NJCher

(35,684 posts)
35. It seems so, doesn't it!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

It amazes me how I never find anything to be disappointed about with him.


Cher

ag_dude

(562 posts)
43. Labeling isn't prohibited and this bill would do nothing to that
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

This bill would prevent states from REQUIRING labeling.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
47. That's not true.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Feb 2016

There are plenty of foods labeled as GMO free. Right now you have the right to decide whether to label or not.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
49. It is true, because there is no uniformity to labeling, nor standards.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 05:45 PM
Feb 2016

The word "natural" is a good example.
This law would prevent states from establishing meaningful standards that would allow for informed choices in food consumption.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
50. That's a false comparison, there's no law requiring labeling "natural" or "synthetic"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

Companies are still able to label whether foods contain GMOs or not, even if this law passes.

If GMOs are dangerous, they should be outlawed.

The reason the debate is over labeling is the anti-GMO crowd knows there isn't any science to support their point of view so they'd prefer to keep it in the realm of woo and play on the emotions and scientific ignorance of the general public.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
53. What an absolutely absurd thing to say.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:17 PM
Feb 2016

Anti-choice? WTF? The exact opposite.

The law in question would give companies the choice to label or not.

Nobody is saying consumers shouldn't have a choice at all.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
54. Way to turn that on its head.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

your position is anti-choice, as in anti-consumer choice.
I don't want companies to have the choice.
I want it mandatory so I can choose what I put in my fucking body.
Not what the companies want to put in my body.

How tone def can you be on this issue?

ag_dude

(562 posts)
55. You CAN choose, I want both to have that choice.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

There are plenty of companies that sell products with "GMO free" labeling.

You have the choice to buy their products.

My position is choice for both, the idea that giving everyone the choice of what to do is somehow "anti-choice" is preposterous.

I'm not against anybody having a choice, you are.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
56. Damn right I'm against companies having that choice.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:34 PM
Feb 2016

They are not people, not "anybodies", they are businesses.
And they need to be regulated as such.

I am for food choice by people not by the companies that sell the products.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
57. I'm for food choice by people too.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 11:49 PM
Feb 2016

Glad we agree on that.

I'm just not anti-choice for the people that produce the products, like you are.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
29. I am not concerned about GMO's so much as I think we need to know exactly what we eat
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

I am not concerned so much about GMO's particularly given crops that would resist climate change etc ... what I am concerned about is that food needs to be labelled to tell people EXACTLY what is inside of what they are eating and not do it in some obscurantist fashion.
So, I am so glad this was introduced. It is important legislation!

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