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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:36 PM Feb 2016

Tim Black, radio host & social commentator, is not very happy with Hillary after Town Hall

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Quit parading out our mothers and sisters & instead change your policies to help us. Quit pandering for black people and instead do something for black people.

WARNING he's pissed & uses colorful language.
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Tim Black, radio host & social commentator, is not very happy with Hillary after Town Hall (Original Post) jillan Feb 2016 OP
Wow, that guy gets it! tularetom Feb 2016 #1
I'm so happy he said it because that's what I was thinking while watching but coming from me jillan Feb 2016 #2
I had a post hidden awhile back for sayin essentially the same thing as he did tularetom Feb 2016 #3
Oh yeah - I can believe that! jillan Feb 2016 #4
This starroute Feb 2016 #17
Policies to Help Black People, Not Pander & Parade Them. He's Right. Go Tim! appalachiablue Feb 2016 #5
Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas Feb 2016 #6
Bernie didn't have any props in the audience last night BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #7
But he did have water - "it's free" jillan Feb 2016 #8
Bernie has too much respect for his audience to pander and parade others. sorechasm Feb 2016 #22
None of her policies help blacks. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #9
Not only that - she gave LBJ credit for MLK's success! jillan Feb 2016 #10
oh god. I didn't know that one. roguevalley Feb 2016 #15
Oh yeah. That was part of her race baiting strategy against Obama in '08. hedda_foil Feb 2016 #49
I know! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #25
I forgot about that one :( Kittycat Feb 2016 #27
THIS is terrible. Dr. King led this movement from the beginning jwirr Feb 2016 #29
Absolutely correct. zeemike Feb 2016 #38
^ This. AzDar Feb 2016 #12
The strength of that man is real Android3.14 Feb 2016 #11
I must say, as a black woman, I found that highly distasteful, chalky Feb 2016 #13
Here's a useful '60s phrase for these times: Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #14
Kicked and recommended! Thank you for helping to spread the truth, jillan! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #16
I was thinking the same thing Kall Feb 2016 #18
I love this guy NJCher Feb 2016 #19
Bravo! SoapBox Feb 2016 #20
It's a Bit Deeper Than This... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #21
Someone had to say it. I'm black and cringed inside and out. Jeebus. nc4bo Feb 2016 #23
This guys a breath of fresh air & has a mind of his own, and a sharp one at that. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #24
This is SO powerful. Merryland Feb 2016 #26
Honestly, who doesn't Hillary pander too? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #28
who doesn't Hillary pander too? AlbertCat Feb 2016 #35
kicking for later Pharaoh Feb 2016 #30
>support and advocate for policies that led directly to Sandra Bland's death forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #31
Don't hold your breath. sarge43 Feb 2016 #40
No one could have said it better, Mr. Black. n/t gregcrawford Feb 2016 #32
The smacks of parading the "darkies" to show what a good owner you are. PWPippin Feb 2016 #33
I Just Watched the Town Hall. gordyfl Feb 2016 #34
Ugh! Drove me nuts! Bernin4U Feb 2016 #43
"Change YOUR policies to help us?" Jitter65 Feb 2016 #36
"Pay for a plane ticket and get their hair done for the cameras." Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #37
^That^ farleftlib Feb 2016 #44
It's all about the photo op.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #58
Great job Tim!!! erlewyne Feb 2016 #39
VOTE! thereismore Feb 2016 #41
Has anyone posted this in GD_P? nc4bo Feb 2016 #42
Amen brother! THIS and so much more! Lorien Feb 2016 #45
This does my heart good... TheProgressive Feb 2016 #46
VOTE! Iggo Feb 2016 #47
Here is the video from the Town Hall ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #48
Pandering is right CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #50
It makes me so sick that Hillary continues to victimize these women especially for her own onecaliberal Feb 2016 #51
He's right. It is disgusting how she PotatoChip Feb 2016 #52
He asks other blacks:How do you defend it? How do you ignore it? Divernan Feb 2016 #53
I love this guy! Those are my words coming from his mouth. He speaks for me. Gregorian Feb 2016 #54
Extremely powerful comments MissDeeds Feb 2016 #55
Maybe we can primary Hillary with this guy in 2020 if by slight chance she wins in 2016. Cobalt Violet Feb 2016 #56
Change her position on marijuana!? sammythecat Feb 2016 #57

jillan

(39,451 posts)
2. I'm so happy he said it because that's what I was thinking while watching but coming from me
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 12:46 PM
Feb 2016

I would have been called a racist.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
7. Bernie didn't have any props in the audience last night
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:39 PM
Feb 2016

I don't know if that is because he is a decent person, or because the DNC only lets Hillary put people in the audience as props. I suspect both.

sorechasm

(631 posts)
22. Bernie has too much respect for his audience to pander and parade others.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

Besides, he doesn't need it. A record of sincerity speaks for itself.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
9. None of her policies help blacks.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016

He has every right to be pissed off by her pandering. I couldn't stand to watch her last night. I hope those women know they were being used and pandered to? And I hope the AA community in SC is as disgusted as Tim Black is!

Clinton doesn't give 2 hoots about them. After the election, they won't exist. My gawd I despite the very ground that woman walks on. What a DISGUSTING thing to do - use someone's grief to score political points. Classless and tasteless! Why would they support someone like her?

Prisons for Profits
Wall St.
Fracking
GMOs
BANKRUPTCY Bill which disproportionately hurts poor women and children
Supported Welfare Reform which disproportionately hurts poor women and children
WAR! WAR! WAR!
"Super Predators"
"Come to Heel"

Watch this video and tell me Clinton cares about the AA community:


jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. Not only that - she gave LBJ credit for MLK's success!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:58 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/01/clinton-and-obama-johnson-and-king-005141

"Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to get it done."



roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
15. oh god. I didn't know that one.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

the only thing missing is 'white president'. Am I a racist too now?

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
49. Oh yeah. That was part of her race baiting strategy against Obama in '08.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:16 AM
Feb 2016

And there was more.


Jan. 7, 2008, Clinton effectively killed her relationship with African-American voters with one of the biggest gaffes of her political career. And she’s been digging herself out of a hole ever since. Eight years ago today, at a Dover, N.H., campaign rally, a supporter introduced Clinton with the following line: “Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually” passed the civil rights legislation.

The introduction was a clear reference to the Kennedy-Martin Luther King Jr.-Obama comparisons that were popular at the time. The Clinton campaign was in a war of words with Obama, trying to paint him as the optimistic dreamer with no real experience, compared with Clinton’s ability to get things done in the real-world trenches. Nevertheless, the suggestion that a prominent African American with national political aspirations might be assassinated struck many voters, especially African-American voters, as the worst kind of race-baiting from the Clinton campaign.

---snip---

African-American voters, political leaders and journalists were shocked and offended by Clinton’s comments. She and her supporters had glibly alluded to the assassination of Barack Obama to score political points, a Freudian slip that was missed by no one. This wasn’t just a dog whistle to conservative white voters; it was a blaring Klaxon to black voters to ward them off from supporting Obama lest something ... terrible happened.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/01/jan_7_2008_the_day_hillary_clinton_lost_the_black_vote.html



And then there was...


(CNN) - In what appear to be the New York senator's most blunt comments to date regarding a racial division in the Democratic presidential race, Hillary Clinton suggested Wednesday that "White Americans" are increasingly turning away from Barack Obama’s candidacy.

"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," Clinton said in an interview with USA TODAY.

Clinton cited an Associated Press poll "that found how Senator Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-support-from-white-americans/

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
25. I know!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

The woman is unbelievable!



I'm not "getting" why the AA community is supporting her. What am I missing? What has she ever done for them? It makes absolutely zero sense.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
29. THIS is terrible. Dr. King led this movement from the beginning
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:35 PM
Feb 2016

and there were a whole lot of men and women who walked with him. They got the Civil Rights Act passed.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
38. Absolutely correct.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

Johnson was well known as a racist and it was public opinion that made things happen. And MLK and the civil rights movement changed public opinion,
I know this because I lived in those times and saw it happen.

chalky

(3,297 posts)
13. I must say, as a black woman, I found that highly distasteful,
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:04 PM
Feb 2016

Or, as we like to say down here in my neck of the woods, "tacky".
It's one thing for them to step forward on their own and say, "I'm supporting Hillary." It's another for her to make them stand up and strut their tragedy for her benefit.

I am trying....TRYING...to stay neutral throughout this whole process. But that sure as hell didn't help her in my eyes.

Kall

(615 posts)
18. I was thinking the same thing
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

but I was quite certain that coming from me, I would have been set upon as a racist BernieBro.

NJCher

(35,685 posts)
19. I love this guy
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

He's for real, just like Bernie.

No "pointing" gestures for Bernie--or for Tim.



Just in case you don't know, this pointing gesture is suggested to politicians by their handlers. It's supposed to make them look like they recognize someone in the crowd and are "close to the people." It annoys the daylights out of me. It is different from pointing for emphasis.

Even Trump, as unscripted as he is, did it. My class and I watched him Mon. night after his last victory and he was pointing into the crowd. Most of the time, though, his pointing is not like that.

Anyway, back to Tim's message, it is indeed disgraceful for people who have that kind of pain to be used in such a fashion. They are in such grief they will do anything--anything--they can to possibly help. This is why she is taking advantage.

Sickening, really.



Cher

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
20. Bravo!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

For calling it out...the more she gets called out for the pandering, the more people will listen.

And...exactly WTF HAS she done for communities of color????

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
21. It's a Bit Deeper Than This...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

Will post a Periscope Later to Detail but Tim Black did a pretty good job!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
23. Someone had to say it. I'm black and cringed inside and out. Jeebus.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:24 PM
Feb 2016

ETA: I'm one of Tim Black's friends on Facebook. I shared this and thanked him for having the balls to speak up.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
35. who doesn't Hillary pander too?
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

Good question....



....and interesting typo! It's usually the other way 'round. (I love a good typo)

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
31. >support and advocate for policies that led directly to Sandra Bland's death
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

>use her relatives to pander to black people as if we were stupid

I will maybe start taking all this seriously if she says ON THE RECORD that her support of the Crime Bill was a mistake, that she's sorry for the superpredators line, that 3 strikes was a mistake.

The deaths of the young black people which galvanized Black Lives Matter were caused DIRECTLY by both laws, policies and police practices the Clintons supported in the 90s.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
40. Don't hold your breath.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:44 PM
Feb 2016

Even if, in some alternate time/space continuum, she would say so, would you believe she meant it?

PWPippin

(213 posts)
33. The smacks of parading the "darkies" to show what a good owner you are.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

Watching Tim's righteous anger made me feel physically ill. Shame on you, Hillary Clinton.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
34. I Just Watched the Town Hall.
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

I watched Bernie in it's entirety. I thought he did fine.

I've watched only about 2/3 of Hillary so far. Boring.

Her answers seem repetitive. "We'll have to deal with that. " We should address that." And her other favorite reply, "The Republicans...blah, blah, blah".

He's right. Hillary does a lot of name-dropping.

I'll watch the last third later.

Bernin4U

(812 posts)
43. Ugh! Drove me nuts!
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016

Her gratuitous pandering is bad enough. But her answers are horrible! Rambling and vague, filled with "it's something we'll need to look at" non-answers. And she fails to pivot them to her strengths.

She's almost a clinic in how -not- to give a job interview.

Clearly shows the difference in her thinking on her feet, vs a typical debate where answers can be scripted and rehearsed.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
36. "Change YOUR policies to help us?"
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

Well, now. Seems to me Bernie is closer right now change policies. Once Hillary is elected, she will be able to do much to help change the policies.

Whatever Hillary does, it's pandering. Whatever Bernie does, it sincere empathy and understanding.

 

TheProgressive

(1,656 posts)
46. This does my heart good...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

It leads me to believe that we really are on a path to not only political revolution but also a
humanity revolution. There is nobody better than me nor worse than me. We are all people.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
50. Pandering is right
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:02 AM
Feb 2016

And it's very disgusting to watch HRC in action.

Considering the 2008 campaign and what she and her husband asserted about Obama's 2008 primary win in SC--it's a wonder they believe anything she says.

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
51. It makes me so sick that Hillary continues to victimize these women especially for her own
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:25 AM
Feb 2016

Benefit. She will forget all about them when she doesn't need them anymore. Mr Black is extremely upset understandably. It really is beyond belief that Hillary is so completely void of considerstion for others that she would parade their pain in public when her husband bears some responsibility.

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
52. He's right. It is disgusting how she
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

is using these grieving women as props.

Off topic a little bit, but look what is trending on twitter: https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhichHillary?src=tren

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
53. He asks other blacks:How do you defend it? How do you ignore it?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:19 AM
Feb 2016

I've been following the AA group, although I don't post there. When I read posts and threads elsewhere in DU which address racism, I rarely see any participation in the discussion by Clinton supporters who post in AA. And when a DU black person occasionally does post in AA asking for explanations of HRC's positions and actions, he/she is told he/she is not welcome to raise such a question and to show respect for the group.

This man put it so eloquently. He asks 2 questions I would like to see debate on from DU blacks.
How do you defend it?
How do you ignore it?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
54. I love this guy! Those are my words coming from his mouth. He speaks for me.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:25 AM
Feb 2016

When I heard his comments in his previous video, I could hear he spoke for me. And not just a few words, but everything he says speaks to the goals I have for this country, which is why I am voting for the only candidate who is worth voting for in this election. Bernie Sanders.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
57. Change her position on marijuana!?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:24 PM
Feb 2016

Ha! Dream on. She's very intelligent but also very rigid and highly square in her thinking. As a college student in the turbulent 60's she was running around campaigning for Republican politicians. Fast forward nearly half a century and her position on marijuana is that maybe it should be removed from schedule 1, with heroin and meth, down to schedule 2 so that scientists can legally study it to see if it's of any medical value.

Good God almighty! How, in 2016, can someone so worldly and seemingly intelligent, have such an archaic and utterly stupid and uninformed opinion of marijuana? How many lives have been negatively impacted and even ruined because of the relentless ignorance of people like her in charge of policy and lawmaking? What the hell is the matter with her!? Seriously.

Great video btw. I'll check this guy out on Youtube. I like him.

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