Bernie Sanders
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..."Next to Trump, Sanders Looks Positively Statesmanlike"...Every one of Clintons (considerable) weaknesses plays to every one of Trumps strengths, whereas every one of Trumps (few) weaknesses plays to every one of Sanderss strengths. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, running CLINTON AGAINST TRUMP IS A DISASTROUS, SUICIDAL PROPOSITION."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/24/1490081/-Article-Unless-the-Democrats-Run-Sanders-a-Trump-Nomination-Means-a-Trump-Presidency
Daily Kos Take on article, *"Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency", Feb. 23, 'CURRENT AFFAIRS, A Magazine of Politics & Culture', ~ IN DEPTH, IMPORTANT READ, http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
As a Donald TRUMP NOMINATION for the Republican Party looks more and more like a reality, it makes it critical that the Democrats be prepared with a candidate that can defeat Trump. And, it is fairly obvious that the candidate to do that is Bernie Sanders. Polls prove this, but so does logic. This article expresses that logic well:
Here, a CLINTON match-up is highly likely to be an unmitigated electoral disaster, whereas a SANDERS candidacy stands a far better chance. Every one of Clintons (considerable) weaknesses plays to every one of Trumps strengths, whereas every one of Trumps (few) weaknesses plays to every one of Sanderss strengths. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, running Clinton against Trump is a disastrous, suicidal proposition.
It speaks how TRUMP'S CAMPAIGNING STYLE is short on plans and big on outrageous statements, typically attempting to reduce his opponent. Hillary would be a dream for his type of circus, and the author makes a pretty good effort at what a
*Trump attack on HILLARY may look like: She lies so much. Everything she says is a lie. Ive never seen someone who lies so much in my life. Let me tell you three lies shes told. She made up a story about how she was ducking sniper fire! There was no sniper fire. She made it up! How do you forget a thing like that? She said she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary, the guy who climbed Mount Everest. He hadnt even climbed it when she was born! Total lie!
She lied about the emails, of course, as we all know, and is probably going to be indicted. You know she said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq! It was a lie! Thousands of American soldiers are dead because of her. Not only does she lie, her lies kill people. Thats four lies, I said Id give you three. You cant even count them.
You want to go on PolitiFact, see how many lies she has? It takes you an hour to read them all! In fact, they ask her, she doesnt even say she hasnt lied. They asked her straight up, she says she usually tries to tell the truth! Ooooh, she tries! Come on! This is a person, every single word out of her mouth is a lie. Nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Check the polls, nobody trusts her. Yuge liar.
*BERNIE, on the other hand, has strengths that match up to Trumps strengths as a campaigner. He has a CLEAN RECORD, is known as INCREDIBLY HONEST, even to a fault, and HE DOES NOT FOLD UNDER PRESSURE.
Trumps various unique METHODS OF ATTACK would instantly be made far less useful in a run against Sanders. All of the most PERSONAL CHARGES (untrustworthiness, corruption, rank hypocrisy) are much more difficult to make stick. The rich history of dubious business dealings is nonexistent. None of the SLEAZE in which Trump traffics can be found clinging to Bernie. Trumps standup routine just has much less obvious personal material to work with.
Sanders is a fairly transparent guy; he likes the social safety net, he doesnt like oligarchy, hes a workaholic who sometimes takes a break to play basketball, and thats pretty much all there is to it. Contrast that with the above-noted list of juicy Clinton tidbits.
>Trump cant CLOWN around nearly as much at a debate with Sanders, for the simple reason that Sanders is dead set on keeping every conversation about the plight of Americas poor under the present the present economic system. If Trump tells jokes and goofs off here, he looks as if hes belittling poor people, not a magnificent idea for an Ivy League trust fund billionaire running against a working class public servant and veteran of the Civil Rights movement.
Instead, Trump will be forced to do what Hillary Clinton has been forced to do during the primary, namely to make himself sound as much like Bernie Sanders as possible. *For Trump, having to GET SERIOUS and take the Trump Show off the air will be devastating to his unique charismatic appeal.
This article has many more excellent points as to *why Bernie Sanders is CLEARLY the best candidate to run against Donald Trump. We cannot afford to lose this one; it would be insanity to pick the candidate that we KNOW will be the weakest against their presumptive candidate. DAILY KOS, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/24/1490081/-Article-Unless-the-Democrats-Run-Sanders-a-Trump-Nomination-Means-a-Trump-Presidency
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appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)compare as outlined in the 'Current Affairs' article are serious and must be considered. There's a TON at stake this time with the critical 2016 presidential election. The reality.
The FULL ARTICLE in "Current Affairs" Magazine is very useful and an excellent read, Link above in the OP.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)have a chance to judge for themselves. Shameful that alerts are sent before anyone could possibly have read it!
appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)prematurely doesn't work. Not in a democracy anyway! And we still have a fourth estate, even if much is deregulated.
Bernin4U
(812 posts)...to comment on why they think it deserves a hide?
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)and perceptive writer in describing the campaign and debate styles, records, and strengths and weakness of the three top candidates, Clinton, Sanders and Trump. The full article is very informative and one that every person seriously concerned with this crucial presidential campaign should make time to read.
Article, http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
*"Unless the Democrats Nominate Sanders A Trump Nomination Means A Trump Presidency", *Democrats need to seriously and pragmatically assess their strategy for defeating Trump. A Clinton run would be disastrous; Bernie Sanders is their only hope, by Nathan J. Robinson, Current Affairs Magazine, Feb. 23, 2016
<snip> "Trump is an attention-craving parasite, and such creatures are powerful only when indulged and paid attention to. Clinton will be forced to pay attention to Trump because of his constant evocation of her scandals. She will attempt to go after him. She will, in other words, feed the troll. Sanders, by contrast, will almost certainly behave as if Trump isnt even there. He is unlikely to rise to Trumps bait, because Sanders doesnt even care to listen to anything thats not about saving social security or the disappearing middle class. He will almost certainly seem as if he barely knows who Trump is. Sanderss commercials will be similar to those he has run in the primary.."
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)appalachiablue
(41,145 posts)despite some in the news world asking or claiming that the Bern has slowed. No, no, going all the way.
Some in the media have rushed to declare Sanderss campaign moribund in the wake of his recent loss in Nevada. This is absurd; after all, out of 50 states, only three have voted, one being a tie, one being a major Sanders win, and one being a small Clinton win. The media has dishonestly pointed to Hillary Clintons higher superdelegate count as evidence of her strong lead, despite knowing full well that superdelegates are highly unlikely to risk tearing the party apart by taking the nomination out of voters hands, and are thus mostly a formality.
The press has also crafted a narrative about Sanders slipping behind, ignoring the fact that Sanders has been behind from the very start; not for a moment has he been in front. But even if it was correct to say that Sanders was starting to lose (instead of progressively losing less and less), this should only motivate all Democrats to work harder to make sure he is nominated. Ones support for Sanders should increase in direct proportion tone's fear of Trump.
eridani
(51,907 posts)--at least on everything except immigrant bashing. May not even matter that he's never actually done anything about his opposition to Iraq and TPP.
catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)I missed it here and just found it via a link in a comment on a Raw Story story. It does a really great analysis of all 3 candidates, strengths and weaknesses.
eridani
(51,907 posts).Not sure what she would do if Trump runs to her left on TPP and the Iraq war, though.