It seems that now Thom Hartmann is backing off from supporting Bernie

[AZ Progressive]

Thom Hartmann is now hanging up on callers that attack Hillary or that "promote the circular firing squad." Thom says that his show is not just for Bernie supporters but for Hillary supporters as well.

[awake]

1. no change he has been doing that all along

[AZ Progressive]

2. Ive heard him in the past but not like today

[Dont call me Shirley]

40. I heard it too today. Turned off the radio...

[emulatorloo]

3. He supports Bernie. However Circular firing squad is destructive and plays into GOP hands

So good for him.

[TM99]

4. Hartmann will hold his nose

and vote for Clinton. That is well known.

You and I may certainly disagree with him on that. I damned well won't.

But this doesn't surprise me in the least.

[AZ Progressive]

7. I already stopped hearing Norman Goldman, and I guess I'm left with Mike Malloy

Though Mike Malloy is anything but an optimist...

[TM99]

10. I pretty much follow TYT's

and that is about all these days.

[bernbabe]

15. He won't be holding his nose

He has said he likes Hillary and thinks she will make a good President, among other things. He is kind of naive about her.

[TM99]

22. Well then I just lost a little respect for Hartmann.

That is disappointing yet again not that surprising.

Too many leftists and Democrats are apparently willing to give her a pass. I am not.

[in_cog_ni_to]

5. He has always done that. He's one who will vote for the corporate owned Dem because she's not

"as bad" as a corporate owned Repub or narcissistic Trump. IOW....he'll vote for more of the same.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

[draa]

13. Corporate Dems keep people like Hartman in business.

The media has created a cottage industry where ignorance and incompetence is profit and must be protected. They will vote to keep the status quo when given the chance.

[swilton]

6. Amazing

I've always read him as pro Bernie (saying he was the next FDR, for example) but Hillary would be acceptable.

[appalachiablue]

38. He's concerned lately with keeping Trump out for good reason IMO. And not

getting into internal wars, which is his right and I understand.

[fredamae]

8. He has always held that

position. Regardless of who it is being criticized. If I correctly understand Thoms intent - it is to remain neutral because he sees the bigger picture (no pun) being that We Must come together in support of the Dem Nominee, no matter who wins after the last of the primary's. He (if memory serves) Has long ago made clear his preference for Bernie and has simultaneously stated as many times that if HRC prevails-he will Enthusiastically support her over allowing any GOP to win.

I listen often and this is my observation.

[SoapBox]

12. Just say'n...

To vote for her, if gawd forbid Bernie is rigged out of being the nominee...guarantees that the Elites of the DNC will push the 99% into complete irrelevant oblivion, crushing any hopes of getting a common sense/main stream agenda in place.

I do believe...this is our last chance.

[fredamae]

14. I am not that hopeless

The whole political picture in this country is already changed. All the "old rules of thumb" can be tossed.

"We" in general are more awake, more informed and "we've" largely drawn our lines in the sand. Bernie supporters are determined, pissed, Young and motivated.
However-Which successor to the WH would "we" have The Best chance in Moving on our issues? HRC or Drumpf?

I loathe the idea of holding my damned nose again and I cannot honestly tell you What I'm going to do. Every fiber of my being says to write Sanders name in...and then I remember these kids need the best chance we can deliver.
I interpret Thom's words making these very points.

More curious to me: Why are Dem numbers down in the polls and who isn't showing up? Old? Young? Women? Men? First time voters? GenX? Are turnout numbers really down? Or are shenanigans rigging the numbers?

Another point-no matter Who wins the WH-If it's a Democrat...and IF we don't get out and VOTE for a New congress - Neither of them will get a dammed thing done.
And "we" already know "we" cannot "move" a GOP controlled congress or POTUS at all.

[Rebkeh]

9. I don't guess at why he does what he does

I trust he has his reasons.

I also trust that his intentions are always good and that in his heart, he stands correct.

I don't need to know any more than that. I do wish he'd stop trying to play it safe, but that is not my call. It is his, and his alone.

I respect it.

[BernieforPres2016]

11. If he believes in truth in labeling

He should start identifying himself as a Democrat instead of as a progressive.

[Cleita]

16. He and some of the other LW radio show talk hosts have made a pact not to diss

the others choice of candidate because they feel that, regardless of who is the candidate chosen to run in the general election, everyone will have to get in line to beat Trump. I don't think he or the other hosts are right. The temperature I'm getting is that people are going to vote for whom they want and I strongly believe that many voters, who will vote for Bernie or Martin O'Malley had he remained in the race, will not vote for Hillary Clinton. However, I respect his and their decision not to fan the flames.

[AZ Progressive]

17. Norman Goldman though is an unabashed Hillary supporter

Norman Goldman claims that he's closer to Bernie on the issues but continually makes the case to his supporters that Bernie has no chance of winning and Hillary will easily be able to win, and has in the past admired Hillary and the way she plays the game, even though he claims to be disinterested in being involved in the actual political party because of corruption. Never mind that he himself gives hints at his own inflated ego from time to time, and has been wrong on more than a few predictions.

[Cleita]

20. So is Stephanie Miller, but she really has not bad mouthed Bernie and she's

part of that pact.

[bernbabe]

27. He says he will vote for Bernie fwiw.

But yeah, he has been really frustrating me lately and he is one of my favorites. He said that Hillary is nominated and we don't vote for her we are traitors of the party. Of course, he forgets that some of us aren't Democrats...

[Cleita]

35. This is a point I try to bring up to fellow Democrats. Many Bernie supporters are not Democrats

and will not vote for Hillary, either voting for Trump or not voting at all. Hillary just can't win the general election.

[BernieforPres2016]

23. I suspect it's for a different reason

The audiences of Hartmann and Stephanie Miller and others are so small already that if they alienate a significant portion of their listeners they will be off the air.

[AZ Progressive]

24. I guess the unfortunate thing for them is that this election is splitting the party

It's not Bernie's fault, it's Hillary's fault for being so corrupt and cunning.

[TIME TO PANIC]

18. He's terrified of a Trump or Cruz presidency.

I think he's a little over defensive of Hillary, but he constantly says that he prefers Sanders.

[jillan]

19. I just sent him a series of tweets & hopefully explained to him that no one wants him to attack her

All we want is a Bernie news source because there is a black out in the msm.
(for example did you know that Bernie just received a bunch of endorsements from MI for his work in Flint? - No? of course not!)

I told him that he was all that we have.
If a Bernie supporter calls into the Stephanie Miller show, she hangs up on them. Bernie really does not get any coverage. I think that is why I spend way way way too much time on DU. It's become my Bernie news source. (Plus twitter)

He is the one that introduced us to Bernie. All we want from him is to provide us with Bernie news.
He doesn't even need to mention Hillary - it doesn't need to be about her at all.

We just need one source where we can get Bernie news.
Not everyone has the time to sit on the computer and read DU - so where else can people find out about Bernie?

I urge everyone that is a listener to reach out to him.
He is missing the point on why we need him.

Just my 2 cents.

[Cleita]

21. I think the person who needs to hear this and who has a bigger audience is Rachel Maddow.

She's been very involved in the Flint, MI issues but has not credited Bernie for his part.

Has Stephanie Miller hung up on Bernie supporters? I haven't seen it, except for one who was OTT rude and I believe used a word that violates FCC rules.

[jillan]

26. I sent that article to Rachel about Flint thru a tweet. Hopefully she will read it.

About Stephanie Miller, I stopped watching her because on more than one occasion she hung up on Bernie supporters that were bringing up issues about why they supported Bernie over Hillary.
I haven't watched in about a month, so I don't know if she has gotten better.

There really is no place to go for Bernie news other than sites like this. I'd love to see Thom be that person. That's who he used to be, that's how many of us learned about Bernie.

[bernbabe]

31. Stephanie Miller is totally in the bag for Hillary

clearly getting a woman president is of utmost importance to her.

[appalachiablue]

39. Miller is an occasional commenter on CNN, though it's been quite a while since

I've seen her on there. 100% Hill supporter, yet never bashes Bernie, or lauds him.

The show style doesn't fit me like others, Thom, Amy G., Mike 'Pap', TYT, new guy Tim Black, online radio host is great.

[Cleita]

32. Fair enough. I don't think he would really ever speak ill of Hillary, but

he should bring up some of the things people need to know like this relationship she has with Henry Kissinger. It's a big problem regarding her fitness to form foreign policy if he's the person she's going to for advice.

[jillan]

34. Hopefully Tulsi Gabbard will step into that role & that the msm will have her on more frequently.

[BernieforPres2016]

25. I find Stephanie Miller unwatchable/unlistenable

It's a bunch of people sitting around seeing who can be the snarkiest about the latest idiocy and bigotry from Republicans, and none of them are particularly funny. There is very little information of any value, at least in the times I've tuned in. Hartmann tries to educate and brings on some interesting guests.

[AZ Progressive]

28. Thom is the only liberal show host that I know that focuses a lot on corporate power and inequality

All the other ones seem to focus more on Republican / conservative bashing or general politics.

[RoccoR5955]

36. You need to listen to Bob Kincaid

on Head On Radio. http://www.headonradionetwork.com

[wcmagumba]

30. Wow, do I ever agree...

I still tune in occasionally on sirius/xm during my commute but mostly what I hear are drunk, fart or sex jokes...not only in poor taste but typically unfunny. Oh, and several people with bad mics talking over each other, very annoying.

[Cleita]

33. She and the people she has on are comedians and they focus on making fun of

political figures and politics. I find the fart and sex jokes unnecessary myself. She probably should take a page out of Jon Stewart's comedy and not South Park's.

[DI Freighter Watcher]

41. Long time listener

Many years I have listened to Hartmann and have always respected him, still do. However I recently stopped listening on a regular basis, he clearly has a Hillary bias. I have found other sources for Bernie information. I would suggest some but don't want to make the DU administration angry.
Feel The Bern!

[AZ Progressive]

42. Tom used that line today: "Hillary has already been vetted, Bernie hasn't"

That everything is out that needs to be out about Hillary, Republicans haven't taken apart Bernie yet.

Awhile ago, Thom did say that he was afraid of the MSM doing a Dean Scream on Bernie.

[revbones]

29. I got frustrated with him early in the Obama administration

I'm sure someone will alert on it, but I don't agree with everything Obama did.

Thom frustrated me to no end twisting into pretzels to defend Obama. Maybe he needed to for his audience. Maybe he needs to now.

I'm just not as compromising on my ideals as many Hillary supporters would seem to be.

[aspirant]

37. Hartmann is running a business, first and foremost

He often brags about the money-making businesses he and wife Louise has started over their lifetimes.

Every Friday for years Bernie has helped expand his business with "Brunch with Bernie" and where was Hills?

This is a survival tactic as another one of our lefties succumbs to the Clinton fear apparatus.

When does this stop?

[Iwillnevergiveup]

43. If Bernie can

pull out wins in Michigan and Illinois, that would be huge and force all these pundits to get off their "unelectable" rant. We here are really an insular bubble - I'd venture to say there are millions who still have not heard Bernie's message. I think this has been the most stressful election cycle I've ever lived through, partly because of the mendacious, egregious Republican candidates who get so much air time. But also because of the lack of support for Bernie from elected Democrats. Ya hear me, Al Franken??? Hell, my own HR rep. Xavier Becerra came out for Hillary last August!

But...we must keep going with donations, phone banking, showing up for Bernie events, leafleting, knocking on doors, GOTV, handing out buttons and bumper stickers, etc. Visibility and momentum. That will result in a win for Bernie, and we already know, Everybody loves a winner!