Hillary is going to lose to Rump.

[Ivan Kaputski]

Listening to WMNF and reading other news sites I believe this is what is going to happen.

Enough anti establishment Dems will not vote for Hillary and either stay home or vote third party or vote for Rump that Hillary has no chance of winning the GE.

Enough anti establishment Reps will vote for Rump that Cruiz and Rubio will not win the primary but in the GE if Hillary wins the primary Reps will come out in massive droves and vote for Rump.

If it's Rump vs Bernie in the GE many enough anti establishment Reps will vote for Bernie that he will win.

This is what I am hearing all over and I believe it.

[abelenkpe]

1. Please no

Hear that too often as well. Mostly from co workers who are younger gen x and millennials. But from some in their early fifties too. My supervisor, a millennial, isn't even registered to vote. He says no one represents him so why bother? It's worrisome given how few democrats have been turning out to vote in the primaries so far compared to republicans. Trump would be a nightmare.

[Cleita]

2. This is very true. I'm active in my community, participating in the

Democratic Party activities so I talk to a lot of other Demcrats and what they are saying to me is the same thing as you are pointing out in your OP. As far as I'm concerned everyone who votes for Hillary in he primary is casting a vote for President Trump.

[Capt.Rocky300]

3. I'm not so sure Trump will be the nominee.....

The news this morning sounds like the Repubs may dust on Mitt and prop him up again. But I've been wrong before.

[Cleita]

7. Excellent. Prop up a two time loser for a third run?

Sounds like something the inmates at the asylum might do.

[Ivan Kaputski]

17. Oh "You people" just don't appreciate Rmoney.

[RoccoR5955]

8. Not Mitt!?!?!?!

I heard they are all calling him, "Mittens" now. Perhaps they will change his name on the ballot to Mittens as well. It has a homey sound to it.

[Katashi_itto]

4. Thats what i am hearing too. Frankly better a madman than a coro

Corporate operative.

[Zambero]

5. The sheer panic in GOP circles over Trump

leads me to conclude that there is another side to this argument.

[Downtown Hound]

6. God, not this shit again

Just about every poll for months now has Hillary beating Trump. The electoral college map also clearly favors the Dems this time around. I will grant you that Sanders is the better candidate, both policy wise and polling wise. But a Trump nomination does not equal a Trump presidency. You underestimate just how disliked Trump is by many crucial voting blocs.

But hey, just ignore all the polls and electoral projections and go with your gut feeling. I'm sure it's a much better way of predicting the future.

[Ivan Kaputski]

11. "go with your gut feeling" Are you reading challenged?

Maybe you thought this was the Hillary group.

[Autumn]

18. I suspect you underestimate just how disliked Hillary is.

[Ivan Kaputski]

23. Looks like Downtown Hound also underestimates the group mods.

[Fawke Em]

9. OMG! Your name!

My husband sometimes walks through the house singing "Ivan Putski" like a chant.

It's something he used to hear when he was a little boy or something.

How hilarious!

[bbrady42]

10. He was a pro wrestler

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Putski

[Fawke Em]

13. Yes, we know that.

What we don't know is why there is a chant. LOL.

[Ivan Kaputski]

15. That was Putski.

[Ivan Kaputski]

12. The name came from a book about the Russian mob.

[marions ghost]

14. If I had to bet I would bet you are right

tRump vs Hillary = hello President tRump.

And if that happens--well at least I'll know there was nothing I could do about it, but I tried.

[Ivan Kaputski]

16. Both Bernie and Rump are anti party establishment candidates.

[marions ghost]

19. Right

and sane people would go Bernie.

I don't count Bernie out at all at this point, am pulling very hard for him. But the forces against him are strong and they have anointed Hillary. Even though some rich Repuglicons might go for Clinton, the tRump thing would be hard to beat. He has "momentum!"

I say pResident tRump IS a possibility. Idiocracy will be realized.

Bernie is the only hope. But they will do everything to stop him.

[Ivan Kaputski]

20. A Rump POTUS will destroy the GOP.

[marions ghost]

24. OK with me

at least something good would come out of it.

[jillan]

22. I'll have a bumper sticker on my car that says "Don't blame me. I voted for Bernie"

[marions ghost]

25. Right

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[jillan]

21. She has no cross over appeal, and she is going to need it if she is the nominee. If she can't get

independents or even a handful of moderate repubs. she will not win.

Especially since Trump is to the left of her on foreign policy, trade deals.
How much is that going to suck during the debates when we agree with that creep more than our own candidate?

[eridani]

26. Depends entirely on how much of an asshole Trump is for the rest of the season

He could turn enough Republican women off to sink his campaign. However, he'll probably run to her left on TPP and Iraq, which is going to be a real problem.