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Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:21 PM Mar 2016

لهذه الأسباب انتخبوا بيرني ساندر

"For these reasons, vote Bernie Sanders!"
لهذه الأسباب انتخبوا بيرني ساندرز

The endorsement headline is way better in Arabic.





(Here's the endorsement in English in case anyone missed it a few days ago: http://www.arabamericannews.com/news/news/id_11885/We-endorse-Bernie-Sanders.html)

The Arab American News has a circulation of something like 20,000 in MI, so it's nothing to sneeze at. That being said, I'm unsure as to whether newspaper endorsements still carry any more weight among immigrant communities than they do for the rest of the nation these days (that is: very little weight).

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لهذه الأسباب انتخبوا بيرني ساندر (Original Post) Mufaddal Mar 2016 OP
Oh!! Very nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wendylaroux Mar 2016 #1
Thanks noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #2
Yooj Endorsement! Thank You Arab American News Donkees Mar 2016 #3
Did you end up volunteering to help the campaign craft some messaging in Arabic? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #4
Nah, I think the brother who just quite DK is already on that Mufaddal Mar 2016 #6
Beautiful jillan Mar 2016 #5
A bit interesting bernbabe Mar 2016 #7
Yes, me too Rebkeh Mar 2016 #10
BTW, how cool is it that so many Arabic groups have endorsed the first Jewish president? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #8
Just like so many whites endorsed. A half black man greiner3 Mar 2016 #16
This is especially heartening since Sanders, while better than Clinton, is not so good on hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #9
Blabbity blab. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #13
Blabbity blab. hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #25
Inch'Allah. forest444 Mar 2016 #11
Wow. The fact that Bernie's a Jew makes this particularly important to the West. Way cool. Thanks! ancianita Mar 2016 #12
An inspiring post, Mufaddal. Duval Mar 2016 #14
Lol! kicked MaeScott Mar 2016 #15
There goes Bernie's chances if Fox can read Arabic. Hoppy Mar 2016 #17
I'd be REALLY surprised if they could. They're barely able to read English! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #19
LOL Mufaddal Mar 2016 #23
KnR Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #18
saw this on twitter yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #20
K&R agracie Mar 2016 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #22
Fantastic! Thank you for posting! n/t bvf Mar 2016 #24
The words are as beautiful in Arabic as they are in English! n/t FourScore Mar 2016 #26
I love the look of Arabic writing. senz Mar 2016 #36
Anyone else have a Gwhittey Mar 2016 #27
That's really cool! flamingdem Mar 2016 #28
Wow!!! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #29
I'd love it if you could type "HUGE" in Arabic! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #30
Huge in Arabic is written like this Bob_Roony Mar 2016 #32
Thanks! MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #33
Most of the Arab communities are pro Sanders Bob_Roony Mar 2016 #31
any idea why? nt redruddyred Mar 2016 #37
More peaceful stance towards the Middle East than Hillary or Trump harun Mar 2016 #39
solid redruddyred Mar 2016 #40
To tell you the truth Bob_Roony Mar 2016 #41
gotcha redruddyred Mar 2016 #43
Of course we can expect the righties to mischaracterize this. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #34
Yeah, but at least Bernie won't throw us under the bus Mufaddal Mar 2016 #35
K&R! Donkees Mar 2016 #42
That an Arab newspaper endorses the Jewish candidate speaks volumes. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #38
Yes,it really does. MaeScott Mar 2016 #44

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
4. Did you end up volunteering to help the campaign craft some messaging in Arabic?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

I saw you on that thread on Reddit.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
6. Nah, I think the brother who just quite DK is already on that
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

Besides, most of my Arabic is limited to the kind of language skills you would need to read 1,000-year-old texts on procedural Islamic law. The vocabulary for modern stuff like this is totally different. Better to let a native speaker handle it.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
8. BTW, how cool is it that so many Arabic groups have endorsed the first Jewish president?
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

Talk about bringing an example of peace to the world!

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
16. Just like so many whites endorsed. A half black man
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

And blacks endorsed a half white man. Hint. He's now president

 

hillarysong2016

(83 posts)
9. This is especially heartening since Sanders, while better than Clinton, is not so good on
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:08 PM
Mar 2016

middle east.

If we get President Sanders, as I hope we do, there should be Jewish Americans joining Arab and Muslim Americans hand in hand to press Sanders, and I know a few who would...To press Sanders on pressing Israel, on Palestinian rights and more. Sanders to be honest isn't good in these areas..

But the reason he's not good in these areas, is not because he's Jewish...it's for the same reason he can't call Saudi Arabia a "dictatorship" openly and call for cutting all military sales to it. It's the military industrial complex and long time "allies" (Israel, Saudis, Turkey, Bahrain etc) and Sanders must tread carefully..but he's far less hawkish and saner than Clinton (faint praise) and Sanders can be pushed further in a positive direction

So is the idea of Jews and Arabs (and Muslims) joining hands in peace to push the country in a progressive direction a pipe dream?

Even holding joint demonstrations on the same side of the protest banner?

Never gonna happen, you say?

It's happened already on other issues:



That photo makes me smile every time. Dang I hope the Arab newspapers have seen that photo

http://www.mintpressnews.com/jews-arabs-unite-solidarity-police-brutality/200165/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/18/jews-muslims-protest-new-york-police-violence-victims-hanukah-garner

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
13. Blabbity blab.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie believes in people over profits. He's fine on the Middle East and will move us in the right direction.

 

hillarysong2016

(83 posts)
25. Blabbity blab.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016
After he finally won a congressional seat in 1990, Sanders was still willing to use his new platform to advance his long-held views. But the longer he stayed in Congress and the higher he climbed, the less he spoke out against Israeli abuses of Palestinian rights.

I have a problem with appropriating $2 billion dollars to Egypt and $3 billion dollars to Israel. Let’s take care of some of the problems we have at home first,” Sanders argued on the House floor in 1991

More recently, however, Sanders has not called for cuts in aid to Israel as a form of pressure. Instead, he has fully endorsed US aid to Israel, while expressing hope that more economic aid to Israel and Egypt, as well as the Palestinians, could displace some military aid in an unspecified future.

The Sanders campaign did not respond to a question from The Electronic Intifada about whether a Sanders White House would still be willing to leverage US military aid to compel Israel to abide by international law.

In 2011, the Senate passed a resolution calling on the UN to rescind the Goldstone report, which found evidence of war crimes during Israel’s 2008–2009 bombing campaign in Gaza.

While some have credited Sanders for supposedly opposing this resolution, there was no recorded vote. The measure was passed by unanimous consent – a procedure which means no senator moved to block it, call for debate or for a roll call, not even Sanders.



https://electronicintifada.net/content/bernie-sanders-and-question-palestine/15581

They note he's way better than average and better than Obama though:

One aspect of such “evenhandedness” can be found on Sanders’ campaign website, where he seems to hold “both sides” equally responsible, ignoring the vast power imbalance between Israel, as a US-armed occupier and colonizer, and Palestinians who live under its military rule.

But in the United States of 2016, even a call for “evenhandedness” on these terms is outside the mainstream.

And lukewarm though his positions are, he has gone far beyond anything uttered by Barack Obama, who many mistakenly believed, despite all the evidence, would support Palestinian rights when he became president.

Sanders calls on Israel to “end the blockade of Gaza, and cease developing settlements on Palestinian land,” making him one of the only US senators to do so.





Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
23. LOL
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

They published it in English too, but I'm sure Fox would show the Arabic with the on-screen graphic: "ISIS ENDORSES SOCIALIST BERNIE SANDERS"

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
27. Anyone else have a
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

Felling that first Jewish POTUS would be first to stop playing lip service to Israel and help broker a actually peace over there? Jimmy Carter get your luggage packed!!

Bob_Roony

(73 posts)
31. Most of the Arab communities are pro Sanders
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

Not only Arab communities, but Islamic communities too. I know for a fact that Arabs in MI can deliver 10K + votes in MI. You just need to get them out to vote.

In NJ Arabs can deliver about 10K too. In FL and CA even more. If you total the Islamic communities too, it is way more than 10K. I strongly suggest to get some Arabs and Muslims to work on those communities to get them out to vote. Volunteers or full time staff who are Arab/Muslims. They know the details, and they know how to motivate the community and they know the culture.

I know that more than 90% of the Arab/Islamic communities are for Sanders.

harun

(11,348 posts)
39. More peaceful stance towards the Middle East than Hillary or Trump
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

His record towards Muslims and Islam is sound as well. He has a good grasp of the history.

We know he would think twice about using drones to blow up a wedding party to get one guy.
 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
40. solid
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

i think the american ppl are against drones too, or would be if they could stop worrying about our pressing domestic issues.

i don't know what the fuck we're doing in the middle east now but it's probly over the top and causing too many civilian casualities. war is bad.

Bob_Roony

(73 posts)
41. To tell you the truth
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 09:57 AM
Mar 2016

I can see myself supporting drone strikes under certain conditions. I definitely support drone strikes like the one done against the Wahhabi Al Shabab Somali terrorist groups. Somali Al-Shabab are among the worst vicious terrorists.

What I don't support is when drone strikes are blind. They take a lot of innocent lives along with taking the life of a lowly scum of the earth ISIS or Al Qaida operative or leader.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
43. gotcha
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

i don't know much about this issue to be honest except that the middle east has been bombed for like the past 40 years? 50 years? and a lot of this has been counterproductive.

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