Doesn't pass the democracy sniff test

[mooseprime]

How many pictures have you seen of endless lines of people standing outdoors for hours in the winter to hear Sanders speak? Immense arenas jammed with people, overflow numbers measured in thousands, town after town? Clinton had a couple such pictures, but not for a long time now. The Clinton rally photos you see have fewer than a thousand, dwarfed by an otherwise empty venue. But she's out front all the time? The delegates and popular vote are all hers? The election is settled and we just have to wait for history to catch up? The few starry-eyed Sanders supporters had better get behind Clinton right this minute or a Trump presidency will be all their fault? I have yet to see any credible explanation for this enormous discrepancy. We'll stand in line for hours to satisfy our curiosity but won't get off the couch to vote? Millions of us send in cash to someone we've never met during a time of economic hardship but otherwise we can't be bothered?

And then there's the sidebar of the the DNC being wholly in the tank for Clinton and the lengthening series of voting irregularities and statistical anomalies at the caucuses and primaries...invariably in Clinton's favor. Funny how I'm not coming across counterexamples for the other candidate. But if I mention it the facts must be disregarded because I'm a sore loser.

These instances are everyday occurrences in our country today--abundant corroboration may be found in most any news source outside the corporate media. They fly in the face of common sense; finding legitimacy in them requires that you ignore the evidence of your senses and the widely documented factual records of the candidates. This business stinks and I refuse to pretend otherwise. Faith-based reality doesn't work for me; show me something that makes sense and I'll believe it.

[questionseverything]

1. we are not allowed to oversee our own elections

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280133097


exit polls forced to match reported output


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280132764


numbers move back wards to match blackboxvoting output

[TIME TO PANIC]

2. I wonder how well he's really doing?

[felix_numinous]

3. Pro Clinton super PAC paid for a poll showing her winning a debate

back in Nov, so I have always taken the polls with a grain of salt. It is an article on a website called The Bern Report (I can't link to it) I have wondered about this very thing, stadiums for Bernie Sanders and small groups for HRC, yet the hackable machines are still in place too....a sickening feeling.

[mooseprime]

4. YES.

After posting this I felt like such a mope, it's so exhausted and empty, how it all leaves you. I think our only hope is going to be some kind of unprecedented primal GOTV effort. But with those machines even that seems questionable. I guess this means it's time to send more money to the Sanders campaign!!!!

[felix_numinous]

5. This movement is bigger than one election

and the bright spotlight of the internet is a game changer, everything can be researched, crimes exposed. I think that the more Americans are awake to the methods that have worked for them in the past, the machines, more shock and awe (don't put it past them), divisiveness and petty insults designed against the left, and disinformation may just have the opposite effect. Pace ourselves for the long haul, this is a commitment for the future.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. We aren't going to go away

we have got to get people elected to Congress!

[mooseprime]

8. thank you for the light of your optimism

and right you are, in part it's about not losing momentum. i would hate for this to go the way of the occupy movement. i think people are so weary from just getting through the week and making ends meet, it can leave precious little extra for pursuits outside the home.

[felix_numinous]

9. Never underestimate being on the right side of history

Bernie Sanders can look himself in the mirror at the end of the day, and this not only shows, it is contagious.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

6. I wonder about that

I expect Trump is doing the same thing.