Clinton: "Democratic Socialism is NOT Progressive

[SheenaR]

During her Town Hall tonight, Hillary Clinton had this exchange with Chris Matthews:

MATTHEWS: "...Progressive covers such a broader front (than Liberal) It goes all the way over to Democratic Socialism, all the way over to Moderate...

CLINTON: No. No it doesn't go as far as Socialism, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.
-Universal Health Care as a Right
-Free education at public colleges and universities
- Paid Family Leave
- Equal pay

The list goes on


If this isn't progressive, then I'm truly not sure what is. Yet another reason I cannot vote for her. I'm sorry. That is my political belief system. And it is for many others. To shrug it off as not progressive or to try and give voters the impression we are aiming for Government control of the means of production is just wrong. I can think of a lot of more choice words. But it's wrong.

[Donkees]

1. It doesn't fill her super-pack pockets

[n2doc]

2. War is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength

[BeanMusical]

16. Your poster reminds me of this one:

Kind of creepy authoritarian style.

[SheenaR]

22. Matches her Kim Jong-il outfits n/t

[BeanMusical]

23. Lol, so true.

[Ed Suspicious]

3. Call it what you want, Bernie's ideas are progressive. They're supported by a majority of Americans.

That's the bottom line.

[SheenaR]

5. I agree

I would call myself a Democratic Socialist though. And it's insulting.

[truebluegreen]

4. I see what she did there:

implying that democratic socialism is the same as Sochulism!

[SheenaR]

6. Eeyup n/t

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

15. Socialism IS progressive.

Capitalism is regressive.

[BeanMusical]

17. +1

[malletgirl02]

20. According to Dean

If we call her out on that lie we are cyber bullies.

[truebluegreen]

42. SO disappointed in him.

I was a big fan in '04 (consider the alternatives), but he has been WAY off the reservation for a long time.

[Maedhros]

7. Why would someone take a conservative's word on what "progressive" means?[n/t]

[Jackilope]

8. Funny, given she sure as heck is borrowing Bernie's lines to win people over.

As much as she shape shifts, deep down we know what she is.

[bunnies]

9. Bookmarked.

She clearly doesn't want our votes. Noted.

[wilsonbooks]

10. Most of these terms have become meaningless due to misuse.

But to support the worst military decision that this country has ever been involved in does not fit my definition of progressive. A politician who lines their pockets by working for the interests of the wealthy class over the interests of working people is not a progressive. A politician who's friends include Henry Kissinger, George Bush and Donald Trump is not a progressive.

[noretreatnosurrender]

11. Hillary and Matthews

deciding what is and is not progressive.

[Beartracks]

21. That is one well-done anim GIF!

I keep ing!

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[noretreatnosurrender]

30. I did the same thing

I laughed so hard that tears were streaming down my face. I even got a cramp from laughing so hard. I had to walk around the room to make it go away. Someone posted it here and I just borrowed it. Feel free to use it.

[JFKDem62]

12. Good Lord, unbelievable. nt

[colsohlibgal]

13. So...

I suppose up is not really up, and hot is not really hot. It appears she is grasping, she may be feeling it slipping away again.

No matter more and more are feeling the Bern!

[tk2kewl]

14. Moderate progressives

[dana_b]

18. wow, wow, wow...

Okay! Well, if YOU can't meet me on that side, Ms. Clinton, then I can't vote for you.

She is so full of shit

[truebrit71]

19. Bullshit. She wouldn't know Progressive if it came up and bit her...

... in the pant-suit....

I'm sure getting paid mega-bucks to speechify from Goldman Sucks is though, right?

[d_legendary1]

24. Damn Hillary! Back at it again with what we can't have!

Never thought I'd see the day where a Democrat would champion the party of no's signature line. Incredible...

[Akamai]

25. Wow. I truly, truly disagree. We live in a socialistic country, with Social Security, Medicare, roads that are safe.

Either that was tone deaf, or she's describing out a new country that I truly, truly do not agree with.

We are not in a dog-eat-dog country, as far as I know, as far as we have been, as far as I want to the future.

We succeed if all of us succeed. We fall if members of our society fall.

Bernie says it best. Bernie says it often.

Go Bernie!

[saltpoint]

26. Mrs. Clinton is mistaken.

And it's not the first time.

[dchill]

27. Democratic Socialism IS Progressive...

It's Hillary Clinton who is most decidedly not progressive. The common link among terms like socialist, liberal, progressive and democratic is that Hillary Clinton is NONE of those. She just plays one on TV.

[merrily]

28. Neocons are not progressive. Free tuition at public colleges is.

We've gone through the looking glass again, folks.

[elmac]

29. No matter what its called

Bernie has what the people want, a trusted leader who will fight for US & against the economic royalists.

[Javaman]

31. She tries so hard.

Bernie is speaking everything that hillary wishes she could say but can't because she's bound down by the corporations that support her.

so she has to resort to right wing tactics because that's all she's got.

[Duppers]

33. That's true.

Are her supporters just not paying attention?

[Javaman]

44. her supporters choose not to pay attention. nt

[Duppers]

32. Keep talking Hilary, keep talking.

You need a bulldozed to get yourself out.

[potone]

40. You know, there is a way in which I almost feel sorry for her.

Bernie is right: our campaign finance system is corrupt, and I feel certain that many politicians--including Hillary--find themselves pressured into supporting bills and policies that they do not believe in because of it. If the Supreme Court would overturn Citizens United and ancillary legislation, we could have a publicly financed system that would free our politicians to represent the interests of their constituents, rather than their campaign contributors.

I think that is why Bernie doesn't go after Hillary directly on this issue: he knows that this is how the system works and that it needs to change.

[Scootaloo]

34. What's she even talking about progressivism for? She's a "moderate centrist"

[Kalidurga]

35. When are we finally going to admit...

That the reason some people are still supporting Hillary is because they don't actually listen to her?

[SoapBox]

36. No We Can't.

Her priorities are for the 1%.

No...More...Clintons.

[gcomeau]

37. That is a full frontal assault on real progressive principles.

That is a betrayal of liberalism and an attempt to redefine bland centrism as "progressive".

And Clinton supporters will no doubt continue to tell us she's basically just as liberal as Sanders and keep steadily stampeding the party to the right.

Fucking awesome...

[HassleCat]

38. What would she make of the original Progressives?

Those from the late 1800s and early 1900s? They were continuously attacked as socialists and communists. Socialism is fine, of course, when it serves corporations, the banks and the military.

[Kip Humphrey]

39. My response to all of them..."What the fuck? Liberal? Progressive? OK, just call me a fucking

Radical then (Bug a-buga-booh!). I don't give a fuck what you call me, I'm not one of you; never have been; and never will. What I can tell you is Hillary is no fucking progressive. Hell, she's not even a liberal. She's a 3rd-Way conservative Democrat who grew up in a John Birch Society household where John Birch Society ideas and mores were lived out and discussed. This is Hillary's formative years environment where she developed her basic personality traits and values, just like the rest of us (except for the John Birch Society part, that is)."

Apologies for the language, y'all. Rant is over.

[onecaliberal]

41. Liars owned by the motherfuckers who destroyed the country are NOT progressive.

[malletgirl02]

43. If she was running against FDR

she would call him a socialist.

[Gwhittey]

45. pro·gres·sive

(of a group, person, or idea) favoring or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas

What about her "It's too hard" issues are for change. Evener her College loan crap is nothing new because it is already in place. She is basically telling people she is going to change the College loan system to be like it is now.

[felix_numinous]

46. The one with a red right facing arrow for a logo

calling critical thinking RW tactics, and complaining of a right wing conspiracy against her, while being a conservative pretending to be a progressive--no wonder no one can explain what her policies are, her followers have been deceived by all this doublespeak.