Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumSplitting the airwaves from Northern Illinois.
I heard my first Bernie ad and Hillary ad.
On the local R&R station; Bernie urged us to unite and fix what the powerful had wrecked. "Will they like me? No. Will they play by the rules if I'm POTUS, You bet" ad.
On the local C&W station Hillary doubled down on "Bernie hates the Auto Industry. But I saved it myself" (Okay, I admit a biased paraphrasing there)
March 3d at around 7:45am on Il Primary day.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)just by listening to their ads. One is about the issues, the other is yet ANOTHER attack ad. If she wins the nomination, i'm turning off the t.v. and the radio until after the GE.
dae
(3,396 posts)ruralsteve
(20 posts)Hillary needs to stop wishing Bernie would just go away. Bernie is going to meet her at the convention with a big block of delegates, whether or not she is in the lead at that point.
What she needs to be doing is seriously examining the question of how she is going to earn the respect of Bernie's supporters, in the event that she does become the party's presidential candidate. She has a long way to go in that department, and, if she doesn't take this seriously, the campaign against whatever reTRUMPlican comes through in the fall is going to be a lot more stressful than she would like to see.
Attacking Bernie's record with twisted half-truths is not going to inspire Sanders voters to give her enthusiastic support at some later date -- even if she is going up against someone as disgusting as Trump or Cruz. They should vote against a Republican, but wouldn't she rather that they voted FOR her.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)The entire corporate wing of the Democratic Party (Of which Ms. Clinton appears to be the spokesperson) needs to rethink their positions.
The forty year legacy of Ronny Reagan is at an end. The pendulum is starting to swing back toward progressiveism and democracy. The added threat of climate change means we can never go back toward conservatism/ corporatism/uncontrolled capitalism ever again; our planet cannot withstand that.
This is the last battle of those who hoard gold. They will fight with everything they have.
ruralsteve
(20 posts)... I thought I would pass on a historical tidbit nobody ever heard back in the day when the news media were swooning over him and calling him "The Great Communicator."
In precincts of my little rural Illinois county, within about 60-100 miles of the other little towns where young Ronnie grew up and went to college, he only beat Walter Mondale by 15 votes. That means that almost half of the kind of people he came from KNEW that he was nothing more than a platitudinous knucklehead. They also had little appreciation for the terrible economic hardship The Reagan Recession (remember his extravagant military spending?) inflicted here and in much of the rural Midwest. There were a lot of places where the "Reagan landslide" wasn't much of one, but you never hear that on the evening news.
To its credit Clintonism was a useful strategy for coping with, co-opting but with (in some cases) humane variation, some of the otherwise selfish and narrow-minded ideas in the wave of conservatism. But considering that conservatism is, by this point, beyond morally bankrupt (the party of old Everett Dirksen and Gerry Ford being deader than a doornail) deference to the obscenely rich and powerful has no ethical purpose.