Bernie Sanders
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'But Exhibit A for what Robert Kagan describes as his mainstream view of American force is his relationship with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who remains the vessel into which many interventionists are pouring their hopes. Mr. Kagan pointed out that he had recently attended a dinner of foreign-policy experts at which Mrs. Clinton was the guest of honor, and that he had served on her bipartisan group of foreign-policy heavy hitters at the State Department, where his wife worked as her spokeswoman.
I feel comfortable with her on foreign policy, Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obamas more realist approach could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table if elected president. If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue, he added, its something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html?_r=1
Sigh
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Unfortunately. Important stuff, the really important stuff gets ignored.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)It's people you want if you have plans for overthrowing countries and starting wars.
Faux pas
(14,698 posts)a hawk.
atomingai
(71 posts)rather break records than to have their best interests fulfilled. As a certain someone would say:
"Short-term victory with Long-term consequences."
undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)But who would listen? We might as well have another bush in the wh.
Third way politics is dino on the outside with a shitty neo con center.
Just watch her she will start wars. Sign the Tipp and
Screw over the poor and disabled.
When will people ever wake the fuck up ?
Frankly Im scared hill is the so called nominee and
scared trump is the repub nominee
Either choice is a disaster for the likes of me.
I know hillary fans wont like this post but please
I am speaking about how. I feel about all this.
And truthfully it looks like running straight off a very high cliff
With a huge mudslide inches behind you trees snapping mud churning
And Im told not to offend or say what I feel or anything.
I cant be silent.
Im terrified of what the richest1%.the criminal types.
the psychopaths.the authoritarians.and businessmen
Making money outta nothin.those trying to survive.the rightwing thugs
The churches.
Will do to this world.
jillan
(39,451 posts)Same for trump.
No rest for us after the election.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)we are going to have to hold hillary and trump's feet to the fire.
the truth of this and how we can do it was exampled by rabbi michael lerner during his eulogy for muhammed ali. his eulogy was an example muhammed ali's courage to "speak truth to power" - in clear, powerful action.
we can do the same.
i am looking for a transcript and will post it here when found. lerner included every one of bernie's platform issues in that eulogy - and spoke their truth straight to bill c. in the front row. cspan has a video - the entire program was powerful.
even in the planning of his memorial service and the speakers he chose to present, muhammed ali had something to tell us. every religion is represented - dramatically, so - young and elder speakers presented - powerful women of color, too. everyone in that room, together, on common ground. it was something how people maintained their respect for ali - despite some very hard divisions.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)These people are scorching the earth with depleted uranium while sitting at high tea.
Motherfuckers.
zorgin
(11 posts)When you look at what lead up to this
malletgirl02
(1,523 posts)What I don't understand is how can Kagan and the other Neocons still have a platform in which millions of people still listen to them? The have been disatously wrong. Their policies led to the deaths of millions of people, and destroyed the lives of millions of people. Why is there no accountability?
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)They believe the masses are idiots. Literally. So they appeal to people that agree with that assessment.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)under Bill. brought back by HRC.
Why wouldn't Robert Kagan be loving HRC's foreign policy?
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Well remembered. Good comment!
These are the worst people to have in government.