Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumDNC chief faces perilous Fall
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/252609-dnc-chief-faces-perilous-fall-The Democratic National Committee (DNC) chief is under fire from some of the top Democratic presidential hopefuls over her handling of the primary debates, and she's facing a huge decision over whether to support President Obama's historic nuclear deal with Iran.
-The Democratic underdogs notably Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley wasted no time hammering the schedule as insufficient. The contenders want more opportunities to face off with front-runner Hillary Clinton, and their criticisms have only escalated this month after the DNC released more details surrounding the debates.
Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)If nothing else, more debates will get the candidates more face time and help against the repuke candidate later on.
Duval
(4,280 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)How the Hell did she get that job? She should defect to the republican side.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:
Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia
Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez
Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo
All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.
FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>
Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.
While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.
Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:
The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.
http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537
The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.
They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."
This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html
Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing
A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.
bvar22
Cursed with a memory
With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)for her to hold her current position, and never was.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)You took the words out of my heart and mouth.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)This information needs to SPREAD like Wildfire.....
And it will, on our Tuesday Night Podcast -- next week. So BOOKMARKING this thread.
Thanks for the information!!
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)It's in small print at the bottom of main page.
http://my.democrats.org/page/s/contact-the-democrats
And if you want to call, the number is 202-863-8000. If we make the phones ring off the hook, it may make things a bit hotter for her. I plan on calling in the morning until I get through.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)And left a few choice words
merrily
(45,251 posts)The debates are limited in number.
The first debate is not until mid October, after the deadline for voter registration and switching party affiliation in NY and other states. Also as the fall holiday season is starting (first caucus is February 1)
The debates are exclusive: you don't get to participate in them at all if you participate in other debates.
All the above rules disadvantage lesser known candidates, meaning they disadvantage everyone who is running in the Democratic primary this go round, with the sole exception of Hillary Clinton.
The above rules also disadvantage good speakers/debaters, candidates who are not trying to avoid questions, etc.
And that's just the debates. Then we go to her brilliant election strategy for 2014, namely, "Obama who? Obamacare what?" And the "great" outcomes. And that was the supposedly highly electable Blue Dog and Third Way candidates so beloved by our party. If you did that gobsmackingly poorly at the biggest task in your job in two years, what do you think would happen to you?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)of her.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)because HRC has a history of being terrible in debates. I think "cringe worthy" was mentioned in our home during the debates last time.
glinda
(14,807 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)For example, the December debate is the Saturday before Christmas. Golly, I wonder if a lot of people will be traveling that day instead of watching TV.
(Btw, minor correction - first caucus is Feb 1st, first primary is Feb 9th. Still not going to get debate #5 in before either one.)
merrily
(45,251 posts)Saturday night before Christmas is a big day for office parties in larger companies that have formal parties in a venue outside the office
The Iowa caucus is before the NH primary? Thanks. I will edit.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)the season of the year "Fall" vs "fall" as in "...from leadership"
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...however, I think the poster was trying to make it clear that the article referred to the season.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)just trying to draw attention to the double entendre.
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)DWS is beyond useless.
leftcoastmountains
(2,968 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)she's horrible. no democrat as far as i can tell.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Granholm's name is being floated as a replacement.
Who is behind the campaign and will it succeed are two good questions. But, you don't get one story after another about how awful the DNC head is unless someone is stirring the pot. And I don't think it's Sanders and O'Malley, even though they are agitating about the debates.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And that is all that matters.
merrily
(45,251 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)She is one feisty fighter!
merrily
(45,251 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)1. White House.gov: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/remove-debbie-wasserman-schulz-effective-immediately-chairwoman-dnc-democratic-national-committee
2. Move On: http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-debbie-wasserman?source=s.fwd&r_by=4888841
MoveOn's petition web site is down for maintenance right now, you may have to check back. "We should be back up by 4 p.m. ET / 1 p.m. PT."
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)OK, evil DUers, let's DU it to it.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)What a bunch of pot-stirring, evil Berniebots we are.
barbtries
(28,793 posts)i tried to post to fb too but got a 404 message.
merrily
(45,251 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)i just went and left a comment to "dump her" on the DNC website. she gotta go.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)vote. I tried earlier today and the numbers are the same. I wonder if this is working.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)I'd expect more signatures than that by now. I'll check back tomorrow, and see if the signature count has changed. When I signed, I just filled out the spaces on the right under "Add Your Name," and clicked the "Sign Now" button. It went through fine for me yesterday.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)NBachers
(17,108 posts)signatures.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.
ananda
(28,859 posts)nuff said
erronis
(15,241 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)And Howard either always was a "moderate" except perhaps as to health care, as some DUers claim, or he has gone that way.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)I don't care if the DNC chair is working for Bernie or even anti-establishment. I just want the DNC chair to be fair, which is something that DWS is not being.
Howard Dean has already endorsed HRC. The debate schedule is already rigged in her favor. Would Dean do better?
nxylas
(6,440 posts)...and putting your thumb on the scale for them. Dean may have a personal preference, but I don't think he would risk giving Republicans the advantage by refusing to hold debates.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)Whatever you do.
I am not a Democrat, because I don't think
Wall Street criminals should get away every
time.
I don't blame Obama for not going after the
bankers single handedly, but where are the
Democrats screaming for justice?
I mean the ones besides Sanders and Warren.
Debbie, take a hike.
Stop protecting Hillary and Wall Street or hit the road.
dougolat
(716 posts)(thanks, Lorien!)
merrily
(45,251 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)white house one and the Move on is in maintenance mode
merrily
(45,251 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)Honk----------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
merrily
(45,251 posts)turbinetree
(24,695 posts)were all in this same boat
Honk--------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
and O'Malley are big powers within the Party Machine, which is why they are so important to us (the people).
What DWS is doing is strictly an inside game, a Machine game.
It's toxic but it's Court politics.
I've signed petitions and called her office over her Iran deal wavering. She's a terrible leader and is costing us elections, given what happened in the midterms.
The only way to topple her is to call our own Democratic reps and insist they get rid of her. It's outrageous that the leader of the DNC should oppose the Democratic President on foreign affairs (the Iran treaty).
fbc
(1,668 posts)It's like the DNC wants to lose.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)rather, members of the DNC leadership will WIN whether Democrats win or lose. If Democrats win, then that's an obvious win. If Democrats lose to Republicans, then they can present that as bona fides to hedge funds and think tanks that they are now and always were on the side of corporate hegemony, and thus, deserve to be rewarded with overpaid Mickey Mouse jobs like Cantor was.
Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)Thanks for the thread, leftcoastmountains.
lark
(23,099 posts)She's awful and needs to be replaced ASAP. Any Dem who cares more for what little murderer wants than what's good for the world doesn't deserve to be Chair of the Dem party.
The article states that, "..she's been a fierce defender of Israel and it's chief lobbying group in Washington, which opposes the nuclear accord."
So why couldn't they just come out and say AIPAC ?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)rurallib
(62,414 posts)WTF???
worst dnc chair ever?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)candidates for Congress be head of the DNC? And what kind of Democrats put her there?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)Howard Dean was there to win seats and majorities (which he did) and the Democratic establishment couldn't wait to get rid of him.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"Bibi" Netanyahu and the GOP have her back.
snot
(10,524 posts)dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)She just let him run roughshod over her. He always controlled the conversation and she would just totally capitulate. I was always scratching my head wondering why she didn't fight harder but fighting for Democrats is apparently anathema to DWS.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,114 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)Double-agent, traitor, saboteur, whatever.
Methinks she's in the wrong party.
See what happens when you let your party become contaminated with
corporate money?
All the self-serving riff-raf want in.
GETPLANING
(846 posts)about as reliable a patriot as Chuck Shumer or Joe Lieberman.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)But she is corrupt.
It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)But she is corrupt.
It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)But she is corrupt.
It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)But she is corrupt.
It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...and have.
emsimon33
(3,128 posts)But, as you noted, it was right on the mark!