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leftcoastmountains

(2,968 posts)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:03 PM Sep 2015

DNC chief faces perilous Fall

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/252609-dnc-chief-faces-perilous-fall

-The Democratic National Committee (DNC) chief is under fire from some of the top Democratic presidential hopefuls over her handling of the primary debates, and she's facing a huge decision over whether to support President Obama's historic nuclear deal with Iran.


-The Democratic underdogs — notably Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley — wasted no time hammering the schedule as insufficient. The contenders want more opportunities to face off with front-runner Hillary Clinton, and their criticisms have only escalated this month after the DNC released more details surrounding the debates.
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DNC chief faces perilous Fall (Original Post) leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 OP
I agree with Sanders and O'Malley Bluzmann57 Sep 2015 #1
Exactly! We need more debates. eom Duval Sep 2015 #25
Get Rid If That Turncoat billhicks76 Sep 2015 #41
She does.... during elections : bvar22 Sep 2015 #49
Given the above, there is NO reason SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #55
Well said. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #75
Whoa!!! LovingA2andMI Sep 2015 #70
I just left comment on DNC website for her to step down. Left Coast2020 Sep 2015 #71
Signed True Blue American Sep 2015 #76
Of course, the article doesn't tell even half the story. merrily Sep 2015 #2
And they reduce the exposure SoapBox Sep 2015 #4
Which is all part of the plan MissDeeds Sep 2015 #15
She will not come across well I think. glinda Sep 2015 #63
There's also the selection of dates. jeff47 Sep 2015 #5
Traveling or holiday shopping or attending holiday parties or whatever. merrily Sep 2015 #12
some one accidently hit 'Caps' there? tk2kewl Sep 2015 #3
...... daleanime Sep 2015 #6
DNC chief faces perilous Fall (fall) tk2kewl Sep 2015 #8
Under grammar rules, the seasons are generic nouns and do not require capitalization... mak3cats Sep 2015 #10
I wasn't trying to be nit picky tk2kewl Sep 2015 #13
I for one appreciated the cap so I didn't have my hopes up! mak3cats Sep 2015 #14
Exactly leftcoastmountains Sep 2015 #21
i'm surprised no one has begun an organized campaign to get rid of her. barbtries Sep 2015 #7
Oh, I think the campaign is underway. There's this story. Pierce did a column last week. merrily Sep 2015 #17
Don't worry, she will keep her job until the nominee is selected. zeemike Sep 2015 #36
Nauseatingly enough, I think you're right on the money. (no pun intended). merrily Sep 2015 #37
But I laughed at it anyway. zeemike Sep 2015 #39
DWS wants a job with HRC. Simple as that. leveymg Sep 2015 #69
Granholm would be perfect True Blue American Sep 2015 #77
Please see Reply 28 merrily Sep 2015 #78
Here are some petitions: NBachers Sep 2015 #18
That one from whitehouse.gov needs some love Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #26
Signed and posted on FB dorkzilla Sep 2015 #27
signed and tweeted. barbtries Sep 2015 #30
Did that last week or early this week--forget which. merrily Sep 2015 #38
thank you. barbtries Sep 2015 #29
Went into White House.gov but do not know how to jwirr Sep 2015 #59
I clicked on the White House.gov link, and found 7,712 signatures. It's been up since August 18th. NBachers Sep 2015 #68
Thank you. Will try again. jwirr Sep 2015 #74
I went back this morning, and it's moved up to 7,869. It must be working, just not getting many NBachers Sep 2015 #79
I didn't think I could despise her any more than I already did passiveporcupine Sep 2015 #56
Put Howard Dean in charge! ananda Sep 2015 #9
+1 - and I'd like to hear his war cry! erronis Sep 2015 #20
In my fondest dreams, the DNC head is super effective, but not a Third Way type. merrily Sep 2015 #28
This Bernie supporter could live with that Jack Rabbit Sep 2015 #31
Sorry beltanefauve Sep 2015 #48
There's a difference between endorsing someone... nxylas Sep 2015 #72
Don't Let Bernie Get His Populist Message Out Yallow Sep 2015 #11
Petitions to remove DWS at both Move-on.org and whitehouse.gov dougolat Sep 2015 #16
Links are in Reply 18. merrily Sep 2015 #19
Just signed the turbinetree Sep 2015 #40
Hope it does some good! merrily Sep 2015 #42
I think it will turbinetree Sep 2015 #44
I love the optimism and steadfastness of Bernie Group members! merrily Sep 2015 #45
That's the way we are and we call it like it is .................................. turbinetree Sep 2015 #46
Not sure Sanders... zentrum Sep 2015 #22
Why isn't she fired yet? fbc Sep 2015 #23
I detest DNC's current leadership, but I think it's not that they WANT to lose, but closeupready Sep 2015 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #24
Wasserman-Schultz is an AIPAC tool and needs to go. lark Sep 2015 #32
Funny, beltanefauve Sep 2015 #50
DWS needs to go, pronto. K&R closeupready Sep 2015 #33
She needs to go - like yesterday. +1 840high Sep 2015 #43
hold it! She's the head of the DNC and she has to think about voting for the Iran deal? rurallib Sep 2015 #35
exactly MoveIt Sep 2015 #54
Debbie should go because she lost congress. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #47
How can someone who has supported Republican pscot Sep 2015 #51
like Rahm, she excels only at corporate toadying yurbud Sep 2015 #52
We lost everything that wasn't bolted down on her watch yet somehow she stays employed. pa28 Sep 2015 #62
DNC chief faces perilous Fall left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #53
K&R'D. snot Sep 2015 #57
when I used to see her being interviewed alongside Rince Penis dorkzilla Sep 2015 #58
Me too. She's got no ability. Compared to Howard Dean she's a disaster. SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2015 #73
Debbie Wasserman Schultz acts like a GOP mole, IMO nikto Sep 2015 #60
Debbie Wasserman- Schultz is an Israel-Firster GETPLANING Sep 2015 #61
Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent emsimon33 Sep 2015 #64
Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent emsimon33 Sep 2015 #64
Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent emsimon33 Sep 2015 #64
Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent emsimon33 Sep 2015 #67
You can say that again. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #80
LOL! I don't know what my computer was thinking emsimon33 Sep 2015 #81

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
1. I agree with Sanders and O'Malley
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:06 PM
Sep 2015

If nothing else, more debates will get the candidates more face time and help against the repuke candidate later on.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
41. Get Rid If That Turncoat
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:11 PM
Sep 2015

How the Hell did she get that job? She should defect to the republican side.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
49. She does.... during elections :
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.




FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537










The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html


Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like this, we don't need Republicans!

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
70. Whoa!!!
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:13 AM
Sep 2015

This information needs to SPREAD like Wildfire.....

And it will, on our Tuesday Night Podcast -- next week. So BOOKMARKING this thread.

Thanks for the information!!

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
71. I just left comment on DNC website for her to step down.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:48 AM
Sep 2015

It's in small print at the bottom of main page.

http://my.democrats.org/page/s/contact-the-democrats

And if you want to call, the number is 202-863-8000. If we make the phones ring off the hook, it may make things a bit hotter for her. I plan on calling in the morning until I get through.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Of course, the article doesn't tell even half the story.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:10 PM
Sep 2015

The debates are limited in number.

The first debate is not until mid October, after the deadline for voter registration and switching party affiliation in NY and other states. Also as the fall holiday season is starting (first caucus is February 1)

The debates are exclusive: you don't get to participate in them at all if you participate in other debates.

All the above rules disadvantage lesser known candidates, meaning they disadvantage everyone who is running in the Democratic primary this go round, with the sole exception of Hillary Clinton.

The above rules also disadvantage good speakers/debaters, candidates who are not trying to avoid questions, etc.

And that's just the debates. Then we go to her brilliant election strategy for 2014, namely, "Obama who? Obamacare what?" And the "great" outcomes. And that was the supposedly highly electable Blue Dog and Third Way candidates so beloved by our party. If you did that gobsmackingly poorly at the biggest task in your job in two years, what do you think would happen to you?

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
15. Which is all part of the plan
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:39 PM
Sep 2015

because HRC has a history of being terrible in debates. I think "cringe worthy" was mentioned in our home during the debates last time.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. There's also the selection of dates.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:20 PM
Sep 2015

For example, the December debate is the Saturday before Christmas. Golly, I wonder if a lot of people will be traveling that day instead of watching TV.

(Btw, minor correction - first caucus is Feb 1st, first primary is Feb 9th. Still not going to get debate #5 in before either one.)

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. Traveling or holiday shopping or attending holiday parties or whatever.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:32 PM
Sep 2015

Saturday night before Christmas is a big day for office parties in larger companies that have formal parties in a venue outside the office


The Iowa caucus is before the NH primary? Thanks. I will edit.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
8. DNC chief faces perilous Fall (fall)
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:24 PM
Sep 2015

the season of the year "Fall" vs "fall" as in "...from leadership"

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
10. Under grammar rules, the seasons are generic nouns and do not require capitalization...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:30 PM
Sep 2015

...however, I think the poster was trying to make it clear that the article referred to the season.

barbtries

(28,793 posts)
7. i'm surprised no one has begun an organized campaign to get rid of her.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:21 PM
Sep 2015

she's horrible. no democrat as far as i can tell.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
17. Oh, I think the campaign is underway. There's this story. Pierce did a column last week.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:45 PM
Sep 2015

Granholm's name is being floated as a replacement.

Who is behind the campaign and will it succeed are two good questions. But, you don't get one story after another about how awful the DNC head is unless someone is stirring the pot. And I don't think it's Sanders and O'Malley, even though they are agitating about the debates.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
59. Went into White House.gov but do not know how to
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:47 PM
Sep 2015

vote. I tried earlier today and the numbers are the same. I wonder if this is working.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
68. I clicked on the White House.gov link, and found 7,712 signatures. It's been up since August 18th.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:35 AM
Sep 2015

I'd expect more signatures than that by now. I'll check back tomorrow, and see if the signature count has changed. When I signed, I just filled out the spaces on the right under "Add Your Name," and clicked the "Sign Now" button. It went through fine for me yesterday.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
79. I went back this morning, and it's moved up to 7,869. It must be working, just not getting many
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:25 PM
Sep 2015

signatures.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
56. I didn't think I could despise her any more than I already did
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 06:58 PM
Sep 2015
But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. In my fondest dreams, the DNC head is super effective, but not a Third Way type.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:27 PM
Sep 2015

And Howard either always was a "moderate" except perhaps as to health care, as some DUers claim, or he has gone that way.



Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
31. This Bernie supporter could live with that
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:35 PM
Sep 2015

I don't care if the DNC chair is working for Bernie or even anti-establishment. I just want the DNC chair to be fair, which is something that DWS is not being.

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
48. Sorry
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

Howard Dean has already endorsed HRC. The debate schedule is already rigged in her favor. Would Dean do better?

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
72. There's a difference between endorsing someone...
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 02:55 AM
Sep 2015

...and putting your thumb on the scale for them. Dean may have a personal preference, but I don't think he would risk giving Republicans the advantage by refusing to hold debates.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
11. Don't Let Bernie Get His Populist Message Out
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:30 PM
Sep 2015

Whatever you do.

I am not a Democrat, because I don't think
Wall Street criminals should get away every
time.

I don't blame Obama for not going after the
bankers single handedly, but where are the
Democrats screaming for justice?

I mean the ones besides Sanders and Warren.

Debbie, take a hike.

Stop protecting Hillary and Wall Street or hit the road.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
46. That's the way we are and we call it like it is ..................................
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 02:28 PM
Sep 2015

were all in this same boat



Honk--------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
22. Not sure Sanders...
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 12:54 PM
Sep 2015

…and O'Malley are big powers within the Party Machine, which is why they are so important to us (the people).

What DWS is doing is strictly an inside game, a Machine game.

It's toxic but it's Court politics.

I've signed petitions and called her office over her Iran deal wavering. She's a terrible leader and is costing us elections, given what happened in the midterms.

The only way to topple her is to call our own Democratic reps and insist they get rid of her. It's outrageous that the leader of the DNC should oppose the Democratic President on foreign affairs (the Iran treaty).

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
34. I detest DNC's current leadership, but I think it's not that they WANT to lose, but
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:47 PM
Sep 2015

rather, members of the DNC leadership will WIN whether Democrats win or lose. If Democrats win, then that's an obvious win. If Democrats lose to Republicans, then they can present that as bona fides to hedge funds and think tanks that they are now and always were on the side of corporate hegemony, and thus, deserve to be rewarded with overpaid Mickey Mouse jobs like Cantor was.

lark

(23,099 posts)
32. Wasserman-Schultz is an AIPAC tool and needs to go.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 01:39 PM
Sep 2015

She's awful and needs to be replaced ASAP. Any Dem who cares more for what little murderer wants than what's good for the world doesn't deserve to be Chair of the Dem party.

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
50. Funny,
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 03:19 PM
Sep 2015

The article states that, "..she's been a fierce defender of Israel and it's chief lobbying group in Washington, which opposes the nuclear accord."

So why couldn't they just come out and say AIPAC ?

pscot

(21,024 posts)
51. How can someone who has supported Republican
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 04:03 PM
Sep 2015

candidates for Congress be head of the DNC? And what kind of Democrats put her there?

pa28

(6,145 posts)
62. We lost everything that wasn't bolted down on her watch yet somehow she stays employed.
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 10:18 PM
Sep 2015

Howard Dean was there to win seats and majorities (which he did) and the Democratic establishment couldn't wait to get rid of him.

dorkzilla

(5,141 posts)
58. when I used to see her being interviewed alongside Rince Penis
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:10 PM
Sep 2015

She just let him run roughshod over her. He always controlled the conversation and she would just totally capitulate. I was always scratching my head wondering why she didn't fight harder but fighting for Democrats is apparently anathema to DWS.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
60. Debbie Wasserman Schultz acts like a GOP mole, IMO
Thu Sep 3, 2015, 09:48 PM
Sep 2015

Double-agent, traitor, saboteur, whatever.

Methinks she's in the wrong party.

See what happens when you let your party become contaminated with
corporate money?
All the self-serving riff-raf want in.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
64. Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:23 AM
Sep 2015

But she is corrupt.

It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
64. Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:23 AM
Sep 2015

But she is corrupt.

It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
64. Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:23 AM
Sep 2015

But she is corrupt.

It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
67. Wasserman Schultzis not only incompetent
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 01:23 AM
Sep 2015

But she is corrupt.

It is an embarrassment that Obama chose her to be DNC chair.

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