Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumWhat Does Howard Dean Mean - No Need For The Dems To Panic.....
when he speaks of Bernie's rising in polls and Hillary faltering?
What kind of message is he telegraphing to Bernie and his supporters?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)after hearing him bang the drums for "her" a couple weeks ago.
It was really a disappointment.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)with his qualities and experience, I'd be damned if I'd stick around hoping for another position, if that's what he's doing after reading here that he made known his desire for the HHS Secy. slot but wasn't accepted by Obama's team, and their punting him as DNC Chair per Rahm so I read. Forget that, jeeze. And now favoring HRC outright with little to no regard for what Bernie's accomplishing. Strange.
I've met him, heard him speak and he's everything you see, confident with major brights and also personable. Can't understand the waste of a major asset like that and his situation. Though I sure don't know everything involved-
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)any of us do? Being from the same state and working close with him? Some act like they know Bernie more then Dean does (not saying you think that) and that is not true. I really can't wait til the primary is decided no matter who is chosen. We are negative on a good politician because he isn't supporting another candidate? Have we really gone down this path?
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)I'm not negative on Dean because he 'supports' another politician. I'm negative on him for HOW he's choosing to support her. He seems to be a lead surrogate on MSNBC these days, and he's a lot more like an establishment flunky than anything else. I was never a 'Deaniac'. He had good ideas to help the establishment, but the establishment is the enemy of progress.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)I think he may know Hillary a bit better than we do.
And you may want to re-think Dean, as I have had to (and I had a natural attachment to him as we are distant cousins, so there is that).
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/02/howard_deans_iran_secret_famously_dovish_dem_is_paid_shill_for_iranian_regime_change_group/
When you cant beat em, join em.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)I used to have a lot of respect for him. Now, not so much.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)He's not real sensitive.
--imm
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)When he says "the Dems" he means the Clinton campaign.
It's quite obvious there is no need for supporters of Sen. Sanders to panic.
hedda_foil
(16,373 posts)or it could just mean
It often depends on what you do about it.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)A pity this is democracy we're talking about and not Wall Street. Or is it?
kath
(10,565 posts)And the non-democratic Dem Party establishment.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)global1
(25,242 posts)I had the news on in the background and I was in another room and heard that comment from him.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)But I'm surprised he'd say something like that. But not shocked.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Oh my, what a changed man Mr. Dean is, and not in a good direction.
I stopped listening to him like over a month ago, when he was hawking
Hillary like a car salesman.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)We must have heard the same babble...I was sitting with my mouth open thinking, what the hell?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)something which I don't think Sanders has done.
But it also means that as a coalition party, some of the coalition is more party and some of the party is more coalition.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Take me if you please!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)them. That Bernie is somehow the destroyer of the Party and cannot be allowed to win.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Bernie is an independent ...running as a Dem so his votes will not endanger a liberal winning. He caucuses with the Dems so this shouldn't be so unusual. Maybe Dean doesn't consider him a Dem.
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)I'd like to see the full context.
U of M Dem
(154 posts)one is bound to be bitten.
Me thinks he has "turned" 3rd way.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Jackilope
(819 posts)... while I didn't see anything about not panicking, I did see lots of folks that feel the Bern responding to his pro Hillary post.
Sad that Dean became a Corporate shill. I had thought better of him a few years back. Now he is just sad. Here Bernie is going to the 50 states, is getting people fired up, is promoting progressive ideas and all Dean can do is tell Democrats not to panic?? Stupid commentary.
swilton
(5,069 posts)both Vermonters
both tried to be reformers
Dean failed
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)If you remember, he was leading by a lot and his popularity was rising. I was one of his supporter! THEN, THE MEDIA decided they just didn't want him, so they pulled that "microphone trick" and made him sound like a crazy man, and his numbers fell like a rock.
I'm very afraid that Bernie might face the same thing. Remember, tthe media likes the " party favorite" and they have the power to eliminate any candidate they wish. I have no idea how to stop something like that either!
Barky Bark
(70 posts)Not even working. Bernie's getting WOM and social media to do the talking for him. It continues on a daily basis on a positive note. What better representative for our country than Bernie?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Bernie at Liberty University.
A Jewish man, the grandson of people persecuted in Europe by people calling themselves Christians?
That takes a lot of love, a lot of capacity to forgive and a lot of courage.
Bernie is the one.
Howard Dean gave up. He could have recovered from his media embarrassment.
He didn't. He had a lot of support. The Dean groups that he founded are still active and they have some wonderful people. We used to attend Dean's groups.
Dean became a company man.
Never had the courage to speak up for what was right against the odds.
I still like him, but he does not have and never did have Bernie's passion.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)the beginning of the 2008 all over again.
Look for Dean to became the Attack Dog for Hillary soon..well even more so...
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I don't see an attack dog for Bernie. Reason? Because he don't run a campaign like that. And it appears it's paying off.
She's gonna do the same crap she pulled in 2008, and lose it again.
Autumn
(45,064 posts)but I suggest he start getting worried cause he's about to be Berned.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)I am a crazy radical coo coo bird?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i used to be a deaniac at one time
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)as we thought at the time, particularly on fiscal issues...which means he can fit in nicely with the corporate party.
ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)and Huckabee are guest speakers. The seminar is related to the health insurance law. I will be all ears regarding Sanders. May have to have a question or two ready to go! Feel the Bern Howard Dean!