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noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 10:52 PM Sep 2015

How to (attempt) to spin a positive Bernie statistic about black voters

According to the latest findings from Public Policy Polling, 65 percent of black voters support Clinton while only 14 percent back Sanders. For a man who is heralded as a civil rights veteran by his legion of supporters, that number is not impressive.

Hmm...I think an 8 point jump in three months, in the Democratic party's most loyal constituency, is quite impressive, especially considering all the noise generated by the Seattle 2. Ironically...or not...this is from an article that claims black people aren't "feeling the bern."

Senator Bernie Sanders continues to pack arenas and often draws standing-room-only crowds as he vies for the Democratic nomination. Though Sanders trails former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in most national polls, he is closing the gap. One poll shows Sanders leading Clinton in Iowa.

Part of the magnetism drawing supporters to the senator is his populist message that includes eliminating economic inequality, challenging oligarchs on Wall Street and advocating for blue-collar workers. Without question, the insurgent nature of his candidacy is igniting excitement in the Democratic base and among many progressive voters who believe a true liberal can win the nomination, and quite possibly, the White House.

There remains one inconvenient dilemma for the Sanders camp: Most black voters have yet to “feel the Bern.”


"Most" is technically true...but then there's that 8 point jump in three months. The jump is more indicative of a trend than the spin wants us to think. And...why is there so much ink expended on this "problem" if the trend is just a fluke?


http://www.salon.com/2015/09/13/black_voters_arent_feeling_the_bern_sanders_problem_is_bigger_than_blacklivesmatter_partner/
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How to (attempt) to spin a positive Bernie statistic about black voters (Original Post) noiretextatique Sep 2015 OP
Because it's being used as a wedge to divide and conquer. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #1
bingo... noiretextatique Sep 2015 #4
Yes! That's wonderful news and you're perfect for it Catherina Sep 2015 #10
Oh, and you should read the comments on Salon PatrickforO Sep 2015 #2
thank you...i will noiretextatique Sep 2015 #6
What PatrickforO said. Catherina Sep 2015 #3
obviously...if he wasn't gaining noiretextatique Sep 2015 #5
and the daily lies and the dishonest tangents Catherina Sep 2015 #8
indeed, my sister. the class war among black people is being uncloaked noiretextatique Sep 2015 #16
Now you have put a positive spin on every negative article yet to appear Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #13
they, and their minions, have zero slack for US noiretextatique Sep 2015 #14
And that is GOOD news. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #20
What is also happening is the Latino population artislife Sep 2015 #15
i haven't seen much ink about latino voters noiretextatique Sep 2015 #17
Yup artislife Sep 2015 #19
it is happening, as much as some are trying to stop it noiretextatique Sep 2015 #21
His numbers are improving DESPITE the swiftboating. I see that as a positive. smokey nj Sep 2015 #7
It sure is Catherina Sep 2015 #9
everyone who chooses to see it can eom noiretextatique Sep 2015 #11
From 6 to 14 is also known as: more than double. Betty Karlson Sep 2015 #12
indeed, Betty...with all that ink used in the article noiretextatique Sep 2015 #18

PatrickforO

(14,573 posts)
1. Because it's being used as a wedge to divide and conquer.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:01 PM
Sep 2015

NO ONE in the establishment wants Bernie elected and they don't want his message to even get out. He's touched a few thousand so far, but the capitalist overlords would HATE it if he got that message out to the general populace. They would like nothing better than to mire his campaign in this faux controversy so the message fails.

That's why he's gotta keep on rolling, filling arenas, getting the message out, turning questions on faux controveries (like the absurd question he fielded from a NYT reporter about Hillary's hair of all things) back to serious issues.

So far, he's doing fine, and we need to help him by putting this shit down whenever, wherever we see it. Challenge every step of the way. Even Salon is an establishment propaganda organ to some extent, as proven by this article, which by the way they copied from altnet and just slapped a different title to.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
4. bingo...
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:11 PM
Sep 2015

i joined this group today:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251592588

i want to focus my energies on getting more sanders voters. however, the propaganda needs to be challenged at every turn.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
10. Yes! That's wonderful news and you're perfect for it
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:46 PM
Sep 2015

I'm volunteering with a couple Pastors to get the word out This is really exciting!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. What PatrickforO said.
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:09 PM
Sep 2015

Black support for Bernie is growing daily. It's terrifying the establishment, especially on top of Corbyn's Socialist win in the UK.

K&R my sister!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
8. and the daily lies and the dishonest tangents
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 11:34 PM
Sep 2015

Class war among our own race is no surprise since it happens everywhere. People like Malcolm and Stokely are reduced to cute avatars. Martin stops on some dreamy mountaintop and Brother West needs to STFU.

I'm sorry if I sound so mad but watching Black leaders in Dyett fuck over smart Black kids to privatize their schools and ignore parents and teachers who are in the 5th week of a hunger strike has got me really upset. Bad bad bad Brother West had the nerve to denounce the people who commit such crimes against the defenseless poor and the people who ignore these crimes.

Bernie better win.

" First we thought it was skin but we found out skin was thin and class will kick yo ass" -Amiri Baraka

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
16. indeed, my sister. the class war among black people is being uncloaked
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:59 AM
Sep 2015

more and more each day. perhaps that explains the insistence racial justice is separate from economic justice. it is a good way to keep ignoring the poor and diverting public funds to private schools. and THAT certainly does not benefit the poor.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. Now you have put a positive spin on every negative article yet to appear
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:09 AM
Sep 2015

You really aren't cutting the establishment any slack, are you? Have you no mercy for the 1 %?

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
14. they, and their minions, have zero slack for US
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:50 AM
Sep 2015

hence the furious spin machine. the people are finally waking up!

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
15. What is also happening is the Latino population
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:53 AM
Sep 2015

I actually have high hopes that we get our people converted over. Bernie sounds like some of our voices that have led us through some tough times.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
17. i haven't seen much ink about latino voters
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:02 AM
Sep 2015

but i am sure it is out there. i share your high hopes. OUR people are always used as political footballs...by both parties. enough is enough!

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
19. Yup
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:24 AM
Sep 2015

Reddit has some good Spanish Language items and some of the FB groups, especially the one out of LA has lots of media in both languages.


I just remember how cool it was in 2008 when a whole bunch of people started to get together because of Obama. There was a connection here in Seattle between the Pacific Islanders, Latinos, South Asians, Africans and African Americans that we could start to realize that we had similar struggles and we needed to gather together instead of competing for what was offered.

I hope we can do it again with Bernie!

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
21. it is happening, as much as some are trying to stop it
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015

Thanks for the info. The people, united, can never be defeated!

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
12. From 6 to 14 is also known as: more than double.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:07 AM
Sep 2015

Another jump of that magnitude would put him at 32.5 percent (initial number times 2 plus 1/3).

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
18. indeed, Betty...with all that ink used in the article
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:04 AM
Sep 2015

i guess they did not think we would notice that the only significant statistic: the one that exposed the rest of the article as complete bullshit.

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